Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!

Whichever gaffer did those amazing fake Iwata Asks with Sakurai and Kamiya should be in here every night doing alternate Sakurai Miiverse posts
 
Like a baby and car keys, Samus is distracted by weapons.
 
Sanyo will be buying Sony. I read it online.
 
Not an excuse. Nintendo is slipping when Sony has Uncharted collision detection technology and animation going for them.

In fact, I'm just going to go say it. Sony should buy Nintendo.

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The item may end up being fun as hell to use, but if they were gonna represent Steel Diver in any shape or form, I'd have thought they had more to gain using it as inspiration for a stage.
 
What's the miiverse comment

Pic of the day. Q: "Is this a Steel Diver?" A: "Yes, indeed, that is a Steel Diver." The sub from Steel Diver is now a cute projectile weapon--it launches torpedoes that fly slowly at first.


Yeah, I assumed it was stage material too.

What if they have a stage in the works as well, but aren't ready to show it off? Has there been a case in the past where a small franchise has gotten a stage and item representation in Smash?
 
Yeah, I assumed it was stage material too.

It could still possibly be a stage.

It -could- be a 3DS stage, I guess, but an item AND a stage for Steel Diver, which did the opposite of setting the world on fire? Even while aware of its future as Nintendo's first F2P project, I really doubt it.

What if they have a stage in the works as well, but aren't ready to show it off? Has there been a case in the past where a small franchise has gotten a stage and item representation in Smash?

Animal Crossing had everything but a playable character back in Brawl, but considering the moolah it brings Nintendo, I doubt anyone of us would call it "small".
 
It -could- be a 3DS stage, I guess, but an item AND a stage for Steel Diver, which did the opposite of setting the world on fire? Even while aware of its future as Nintendo's first F2P project, I really doubt it.

One of the things that is uncompromisingly essentially for a F2P game is a very large playerbase: you need several, several players so that maybe 10-20% of them will pay enough for you can get a return on your investment. It would be wise to market the series enough to expose it to as wide of an audience as possible so that that large playerbase can be achieved when the game releases.
 
I'm always happy when I see Nintendo cramming every game they can in Smash Bros, that's what this game is about. I mean "Lip's Stick", how random is that ? Keep going, Nintendo, So far, everything is great.
 
I'm always happy when I see Nintendo cramming every game they can in Smash Bros, that's what this game is about. I mean "Lip's Stick", how random is that ? Keep going, Nintendo, So far, everything is great.

I hope that Panel de Pon gets more representation. Though that's unlikely since Yoshi was slapped onto the game in its western release.
 
One of the things that is uncompromisingly essentially for a F2P game is a very large playerbase: you need several, several players so that maybe 10-20% of them will pay enough for you can get a return on your investment. It would be wise to market the series enough to expose it to as wide of an audience as possible so that that large playerbase can be achieved when the game releases.

But it'll be released on the Wii U! -SHOT-

In all seriousness, a fair point. As far as I know though, wouldn't the F2P game in question release before Smash does? I do concede that Smash's evergreen effect would result beneficial for the game's awareness regardless of their release dates, to one degree or the other.
 
Don't see what is so disappointing about this. It's a new item, it's based on a game and a relatively small title to boot meaning he's trying to include any title in some form or another if possible.
 
I can't tell if this is an awesome stealth pun or Sakurai just throwing his arms up over Nintendo trying to make Steel Diver a thing. :P
 
But it'll be released on the Wii U! -SHOT-

In all seriousness, a fair point. As far as I know though, wouldn't the F2P game in question release before Smash does? I do concede that Smash's evergreen effect would result beneficial for the game's awareness regardless of their release dates, to one degree or the other.

Most well-monetized F2P games get frequent (think once every 1-2 months) content additions or other updates in order to keep player retention up. If Nintendo does likewise, and if SteelDiver: Subwars is as online as I think it will be (and reasonably popular), it should still be alive and getting updated by the time Smash comes out.



Also, I missed when it was (apparently) said that SteelDiver: Subwars will be a WiiU title. Where can I read up on it?
 
Don't see what is so disappointing about this. It's a new item, it's based on a game and a relatively small title to boot meaning he's trying to include any title in some form or another if possible.

Why are people mad about this pic again?

If this goes for me, just wanna clarify that I'm not at all disappointed or angered at this revelation. On the contrary, as I said, I predict it's gonna be a blast to actually play with, and you'll never hear me complaining about a new reveal on a pic of the day. I'm just stating my surprise, for I thought Steel Diver would lend itself more naturally for a stage. Sakurai is nothing if not an out-of-the-box thinker, though, and I'm grateful for it. Looking forward to shoot ya all with this baby!
 
I hope that Panel de Pon gets more representation. Though that's unlikely since Yoshi was slapped onto the game in its western release.
Panel de Pon/Tetris Attack is my all-time favorite puzzle game. Lip the Fairy is one of those obviously near-impossible characters like Jill Dozer or Banjo & Kazooie* I'd love to see in Smash.



*okay they're probably literally impossible, but whatever you get my point
 
If this goes for me, just wanna clarify that I'm not at all disappointed or angered at this revelation. On the contrary, as I said, I predict it's gonna be a blast to actually play with, and you'll never hear me complaining about a new reveal on a pic of the day. I'm just stating my surprise, for I thought Steel Diver would lend itself more naturally for a stage. Sakurai is nothing if not an out-of-the-box thinker, though, and I'm grateful for it. Looking forward to shoot ya all with this baby!

I like the idea of it being a stage as well. As others have said, it being an item hasn't ruled out the possibility of it being a stage (I personally like the idea of fighting aboard sinking ships and surfacing submarines).
 
I wish it were a super-soaker that shot a constant stream of water - like Mario Down-B but longer lasting. Would be excellent for gimp kills.
 
I like the idea of it being a stage as well. As others have said, it being an item hasn't ruled out the possibility of it being a stage (I personally like the idea of fighting aboard sinking ships and surfacing submarines).
They could be holding a Steel Diver-related stage back for the 3DS version, given it was a portable game and all.
 
Most well-monetized F2P games get frequent (think once every 1-2 months) content additions or other updates in order to keep player retention up. If Nintendo does likewise, and if SteelDiver: Subwars is as online as I think it will be (and reasonably popular), it should still be alive and getting updated by the time Smash comes out.

Also, I missed when it was (apparently) said that SteelDiver: Subwars will be a WiiU title. Where can I read up on it?

All valid points! ... Sans for mine when I claimed Steel Diver would come for the U. I did some research just now and couldn't find anything that pointed in that direction. Closest thing is the Australian Classification Board you yourself referenced, which claims it as "Multiplatform". Which mind you, with Smash also releasing on both platforms, would play well with.

...Guys....

What if these torpedoes act as meteor smashes if a character gets hit by them? In essence sinking that character?

Abusing that sucker like there's no tomorrow if so.
 
They could be holding a Steel Diver-related stage back for the 3DS version, given it was a portable game and all.

That would be my guess; that the stage wasn't ready, but the comparatively simple item was.

The platform that it's available on could also be influenced by which platform the F2P title will release for.

Closest thing is the Australian Classification Board you yourself referenced, which claims it as "Multiplatform". Which mind you, with Smash also releasing on both platforms, would play well with it.

I honestly came to the exact same conclusion when I saw that. If it's multiplatform to both the handheld and the system, it brings me to speculate on whether you could progress equally in both platforms' games via a tied NNID.

For those saying that Nintendo isn't that good at online, keep in mind that this is a F2P game. I'm using World of Tanks as an example here because that's my favorite F2P game: World of Tanks uses three different servers: one for the game server, one for monetary transactions, and one for logging in. We can speculate that there will be at least two servers for Steel Diver (for the game itself, since I believe it's going to be an online game, and the monetary transactions), so it's not that far of a stretch to believe that a third, login server could unify player progression across two platforms.

And besides, Nintendo has the capacity to remotely delete people's software for TOS violations. Nintendo is better at internet than people give them credit for.
 
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