Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

One minor change: in the arch in the near-background just to the left of the smash bros flags, a flower-shaped carving has been placed there. In the first and third shot it was just a slab of stone.
 
Y'all better stop it with those Captain Falcon Assist trophy jokes....YOUR HURTING PEOPLE! D=<

EDIT: Wait, I am a member!? WAT?! Has it already been that long!? *manly tears* ;-;

Congz on your member! Now you don't have to worry about permaban over little things. :P

Thread should be locked till then.

I fully expected that Smash Cycle would happens frequently during break week.

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We did?

Neat.

Yeah, we did. Jan 2013 Nintendo Direct was amazing. Smash DIRECT PLEASE!
 
It would be an amazing middle finger from Sakurai to all of the "serious players" if he deliberately made Final Destination as convoluted as possible. More geometry than the craziest Lovecraft tales!

yeah it's funny to piss people off for no reason, all right

also lol at a real "it's fucking nothing" update
 
Ok, so we already have 3 Zelda reveals and 5 Mario ones, we need a Pokemon one now, so hopefully whenever Sakurai comes back, he'll reveal
Jigglypuff
 
It's already been mentioned as a possibility, but I'd love for Sakurai to reveal Sheik, but then not clarify her relationship with Zelda whatsoever.
 
I was a bit surprised to see brunette Zelda, but then again it makes more sense than having all females be blond.

The phantom lack of eyes and pauldrons colors match with the regular phantoms, but I like to think that Sakurai isn't that big of a troll.
 
Sheik won't be anything other than a transformation. That's probably the only reason she was included to begin with -- to make Zelda into a more unique character. Without the transformation move there's no reason for Sheik to be in Smash Bros.
 
Great chart up there.

So, I have found the great philosophical question of our time. When Mewtwo is revealed, does he get a trailer and everything or will he be treated like a veteran?
 
I wonder if we'll get a wonderful reveal when he returns.
He'll re-reveal Olimar.

Great chart up there.

So, I have found the great philosophical question of our time. When Mewtwo is revealed, does he get a trailer and everything or will he be treated like a veteran?
We'll find out a couple days before release, and not through the website. Good question though, I really don't know how it'd go down.
 
I wonder if we'll get a wonderful reveal when he returns.

Surprise Sakurai newcomer: we're getting The Wonderful 101 Dalmatians, featuring a random 101 newcomer nobody's ever heard of and he uses a Nintendog as his Luma.

Wonderful 101 Dalmatians is the arch-enemy of Codghostybro & Riley, another newcomer pair.
 
They need to fix Zelda's shoulder pads. Her arm clips through.
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And then this looks weird, I think her hair clips through:
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They really don't need to fix this and should work on this kind of stuff last.
 
Was the original SSB game very low budget or short dev time or something? I know it's N64 and all, but for a 1999 game it looks extremely bad.
 
The game had a LOT of content, so I'm sure they had to save on the graphics.

It did? I always found the original SSB was rather lacking for content. It only had one singleplayer mode and that lasted about 10-15 minutes maybe, and not much variety for versus mode. The main bulk was just multiplayer matches.

SSB didn't get content stuffed until Melee, where they introduced multiple singleplayer modes, event matches, trophies, lot more characters and stages, and varying versus modes like the special matches and tournaments.
 
It did? I always found the original SSB was rather lacking for content. It only had one singleplayer mode and that lasted about 10-15 minutes maybe, and not much variety for versus mode. The main bulk was just multiplayer matches.

SSB didn't get content stuffed until Melee, where they introduced multiple singleplayer modes, event matches, trophies, lot more characters and stages, and varying versus modes like the special matches and tournaments.

For a Nintendo 64 game? It had a lot of content for that.
 
Thinking about what people said of the Armored Phantom being a substitution to Sheik transformation.

Is there any DownB special that is horizontal ?
 
Thinking about what people said of the Armored Phantom being a substitution to Sheik transformation.

Is there any DownB special that is horizontal ?

I think it'll end up being more comparable to Marth's counter, where if he takes damage it becomes a powerful slash with a horizontal orientation. The difference is that Zelda's could work more as a sucker punch, where you expect Sheik and then suddenly "OH FUCK PHANTOM SHOULDER TACKLE I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS."

Speaking of shoulder tackles, why the hell can't Samus shinespark?
 
hmmm

I think it'll end up being more comparable to Marth's counter, where if he takes damage it becomes a powerful slash with a horizontal orientation. The difference is that Zelda's could work more as a sucker punch, where you expect Sheik and then suddenly "OH FUCK PHANTOM SHOULDER TACKLE I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS."

Speaking of shoulder tackles, why the hell can't Samus shinespark?

Doubt it is a counter ... both the animations and the Link/Peach screen points otherwise
 
Captain Falcon and Ganondorf.

Uh, where would you put it in her moveset? Her specials are not exactly expendable.

Bare minimum, her dash attack could be an unexpectedly powerful addition by giving it electrical speed boost properties. I've really wanted her Final Smash replaced, too - rather than a generic laser beam, I'd love for her to receive her Fully Powered Suit. Turn her into a monster that doesn't take damage from lava, acid, hazards, etc. and give her a Plasma Beam, Space Jump, Grapple Beam has extended range, etc.

The fact that her SSB4 suit is based on her Zero Mission incarnation has me hopeful. Considering it's possible to add in music during Final Smashes, a bombastic Norfair theme in reference to MZM's finale playing when she upgrades would be ridiculously awesome.

Taunts to change beam types could also seriously breathe new life into her.
 
Bare minimum, her dash attack could be an unexpectedly powerful addition by giving it electrical speed boost properties. I've really wanted her Final Smash replaced, too - rather than a generic laser beam, I'd love for her to receive her Fully Powered Suit. Turn her into a monster that doesn't take damage from lava, acid, hazards, etc. and give her a Plasma Beam, Space Jump, Grapple Beam has extended range, etc.

The fact that her SSB4 suit is based on her Zero Mission incarnation has me hopeful. Considering it's possible to add in music during Final Smashes, a bombastic Norfair theme in reference to MZM's finale playing when she upgrades would be ridiculously awesome.

Taunts to change beam types could also seriously breathe new life into her.
It's not. It's based on Other M.

And I may be wrong, the Varia Suit, is not even in the original Metroid and debuted in Super Metroid.

Completely wrong about that. Though the Varia Suit in that doesn't really look different than the regular suit of Samus'.
 
It's not. It's based on Other M.

And I may be wrong, the Varia Suit, is not even in the original Metroid and debuted in Super Metroid.

Completely wrong about that. Though the Varia Suit in that doesn't really look different than the regular suit of Samus'.

I know that Other M was a big influence, but compare SSB4 Samus to the Zero Mission boxart / promo art. It looks like they took the best of both worlds by combining the most recent 3D title's design with the most recent / traditional 2D design.
 
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