aspiegamer
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Mmm.
Though, to be honest, any more than zero would be an impressive figure these days.
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Destiny's team size is now around 500 people
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Though, to be honest, any more than zero would be an impressive figure these days.
Gentleman Jack
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How does this affect their dinners served during crunch time metric?
Super Stardust
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Why dont you want to play with other people? Borderlands 2 was way more fun when you play co op and destiny looks like it'll be the same
Same, I also preordered to take part in the beta
Mister Negative
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I thought this meant playercount at first and that it was just a response to the Titanfall hullabaloo.
I have really high hopes for this game. I can't wait for it.
Edit: as far as speculation that the game is a lot bigger than Bungie has let on, that's kind of their MO. They love to keep secrets.
I have really high hopes for this game. I can't wait for it.
Edit: as far as speculation that the game is a lot bigger than Bungie has let on, that's kind of their MO. They love to keep secrets.
Guessing GI generalized the total count of everyone working on the game as developers, whether they are Bungie, Activision Central Services or marketing or PR, or DemonWare. Highly doubt this is just Bungie.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Hard to put a finger on it but minimal game footage, locations, goals, story and a delay in release date with years and years of development plus a huge workforce....hmmm either Bungie are in Halo 2 levels of development hell or they're making sure everything they want in is there at launch.
I'm guessing it was the first bit last year and this year/delay is the latter. I'm also wondering about cross platform play...
Byakuya769
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Bungie is about to realize the promise of Resistance 2 coop and take it to another level.
In Bungie I trust.
In Bungie I trust.
Helpless Hometown Motor
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There is no way No Mans Sky will reach the same scope as Destiny.And yet it looks worse than No Mans Sky.
Probably expecting 15 million sale, good luck to them.
i kinda disagree with the business decision.
Yes its the same guys that made Halo, but this is a new IP and the mainstream have shown that they buy sequels.
Plus it must be awfully hard trying to coordinate a group of that size especially when its a new IP and you have to make sure the game doesn't lose its focus...
Also I don't understand how western devs always have such large teams... demons and dark souls shows you don't need such a large team (probably around 50-100 people) and you can still get a massive game.
Yes its the same guys that made Halo, but this is a new IP and the mainstream have shown that they buy sequels.
Plus it must be awfully hard trying to coordinate a group of that size especially when its a new IP and you have to make sure the game doesn't lose its focus...
Also I don't understand how western devs always have such large teams... demons and dark souls shows you don't need such a large team (probably around 50-100 people) and you can still get a massive game.
NullPointer
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And considering the length of time they expect to support this game I'd imagine that a good amount of work is going towards content we won't even see at release. World-building stuff, progression systems, laying the groundwork for the sequels and expansions to come.
I know the entire solar system is supposed to be playable but I have no idea what that means in practical terms. Will each planet have a Borderlands sized zone? Bigger? Smaller?
Is the true meat in terms of legs to be found in competitive? Is the game linear or designed for replayability? New game+? MMO-like endgame concepts?
Should we consider this game to be comparable in scope to something like Skyrim? or GTA? Or more like an Assassin's Creed game maybe?
I do like the sound of this, but part of that co-op allure was the dynamic objectives. Would love to see something along these lines.
The rumor was 5 million. 10 million is absurd.
Marc
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Very different looking games to be fair, just a light jab with a smile. Still, with procedurally generated content I wouldn't say scope is holding No Mans Sky back. More likely polish, game mechanics etc..
EchoChamber
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He is sirious black
Games in a similar manner tend to be scope and not much more. I'm not sure a game like that is able to hold any real interest outside of the initial novelty -- but it would be great if they are able to nail it.
Helpless Hometown Motor
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Very true. They are different and I'm looking forward to both. I guess I'm still a little salty after the VGX No Mans Sky thread in which people were claiming that No Mans Sky was somehow larger than Destiny which automatically made it better. They are both big in their own ways and each has different special qualities.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Good points Null, they'd have to be planning fresh content 2-6 times a years, surely. They have stated the game was designed with a ending for the first game but to obviously open things up for continued games/progression post the initial game.
My personal guess is the meat is the story coop mode with opt-in clashes of PvP. To me the competitive mode seems quite separate to that but isn't the meat of the game. More like the toppings of your choice on the burger.
I think Destiny is going to be larger than Skyrim, I'm thinking it's designed more like Project Spark as a framework to expand as they see fit infinitely. I would guess elements that are static to the story and elements that are dynamic for revisiting purposes. I believe we know the fireteam sizes are quite small so I'm not expecting dynamic maps holistically but perhaps elements or pathways or loot etc are all dynamic from the cloud?
If they've really gone all out I'd love to see all the various fireteams "results" contributing back to a dynamic universe and next set of missions. Factions lends itself to this idea quite heavily but with no details it's hard to speculate.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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I prefer playing solo. Playing with other people can be fun, and I'll probably do some of that, but goofing around with friends usually destroys the immersion, and I don't want that to happen while I'm playing these science fiction epics. Borderlands has a strong emphasis on humor, which lends itself well to those kinds of human-to-human interactions.
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You can see every opinion on GAF, regardless of how unbelievable it sounds...
statham
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AC was around 1000 so actually this isn't that bad for how many systems they are launching on. But I trust in Bungie, game will be amazing, hope the single player campaign is alright.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I paid off my preorder shortly after this became available to preorder on Amazon. My nerd penis is bigger than yours.
NeededSleep
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Well ill be gettng 2 copies. Both collectors(as soon as they anounce) versions for ps4 & ps3. Thats if there is cross gen play, which im eagerly awaiting news on.
maabus1999
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I think he is referencing this rumor: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=618571
And with that team size and development time, combined with future marketing, I could believe it needs 10 million.
ncsuDuncan
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500? Maybe that's including Activision liasons (or generous rounding) - last I heard, Bungie itself was around 350-400.
Regardless, that's a lot of people competing for bathroom time.
Regardless, that's a lot of people competing for bathroom time.
manipulate
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Is this game just another shooter?
BruiserBear
Banned
Based on what we've seen so far, I don't know how this game ends up being profitable.
Gamer @ Heart
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500 people for 4 versions of the game plus the team already working on the expansion pack for 2015 sound about right.
Bungie better pray to god this works out. I remember reading about their contract with acti during the cod lawsuit and there are several clauses where activision can walk away.
Bungie better pray to god this works out. I remember reading about their contract with acti during the cod lawsuit and there are several clauses where activision can walk away.
Principate
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No Man's Sky would make me go back to the drawing board if I was on the Destiny team, but the scope is very different (everything from manpower to multiplayer). In any case it wouldn't be surprising if they were running behind schedule considering the delay of the early access and the lack of hands-on impressions
Anyway the game looks like cross-gen blandness, but with that many people it should run relatively smoothly for a huge multiplayer title. It'll be interesting to see if it becomes the next HALO in terms of franchise success or will it become more like (edit) SWTOR
Anyway the game looks like cross-gen blandness, but with that many people it should run relatively smoothly for a huge multiplayer title. It'll be interesting to see if it becomes the next HALO in terms of franchise success or will it become more like (edit) SWTOR
I'm more than ok with this. I hope there is a long coop campaign.
"There's now 500 players per team in Destiny? That's just a gross overreaction to GAF's Titanfallout! Now, to read the thread....."
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Nah Bungie is quite unique in that they try to avoid the swell/shrink cycle of contracting vs. game release cycles and I believe their "usual" staff is 250-300. It's most likely bigger these days as 300-350 and then the rest are contractors etc.
There were 600 fucking people on RE6?! Lol!!!!
I wonder what the ratio of efficiency is. I've worked on mid sized teams and I simply can't even fathom how a development team in the hundreds could function with anything resembling efficiency. Ideally the project could be broken down into hundreds of independent compartmentalized little pieces that never quite works in reality. There's always interdependence, interface changes, bugs that result in bugs in other components, etc. Their bug tracker, cvs logs, etc have got to look like impenetrable novels.
If this wasn't the games industry I'd assume this was the work of some half wit in management who thought if one dev can complete a component in 2 weeks then it'd only take 2 devs working on the same component 1 week - taken to extremes. It'd be awesome to read a sort of project diary for a huge project like this.
If this wasn't the games industry I'd assume this was the work of some half wit in management who thought if one dev can complete a component in 2 weeks then it'd only take 2 devs working on the same component 1 week - taken to extremes. It'd be awesome to read a sort of project diary for a huge project like this.
V AA D E R
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How does one go about even organizing something like that? lol I'm not getting paid big bucks to design these games but I've worked with smaller teams of like 20 people and even then you run into confusion and miscommunication. So I'm struggling to comprehend 500 guys all working in sync.
ComputerMKII
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How many Ubisofts is that?
ubersticky
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I seriously can't believe RE6 had so many people working on it yet we ended up getting that... I mean even RE5 had so much more in terms of everything. Just makes me wonder how much stuff wasn't released as DLC or what the hell happened