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I don't think he did drugs at his house, I just think Woody was hoping he'd use the phone call as a reason to bail early. That's why he was pissed.
 
Just the fact that Hannibal is on network television has kept me from ever watching it.

It shouldn't, Hannibal is fucking amazing and weirdly out of place on a network. The ad breaks are the only reason I remember it's even on NBC at all.
 
I don't think he did drugs at his house, I just think Woody was hoping he'd use the phone call as a reason to bail early. That's why he was pissed.
that's what I assumed as well. Pretty sure that WAS obviously the case. He did say I appreciate it and I'm sure he appreciates it too when he was speaking to the guy on the phone.
 
IT can't be the obivious answer that Rust did it? right guys?

I feel like people with this opinion are watching the show in a far different manner. It doesn't come across like that at all to me.

His ecentric behavior is used to contrast himself from Woody's character. His appearance in the present day sequences appears to be the result of the fallout from the system he despised.
 
He got up to "phone about his CI", came back sniffing and wiping his nose.

Naw, I re-watched that scene and he does a couple sniffs and that's it, I don't think there's any implication he did drugs when he went to answer the phone. Marty was pissed because he didn't like the fact the dude was drunk as a skunk in front of his family, even if it looked like he was coming down from it.
 
that's what I assumed as well. Pretty sure that WAS obviously the case. He did say I appreciate it and I'm sure he appreciates it too when he was speaking to the guy on the phone.

Oh, yeah, that was how it went. But I do think he took some of the drugs he just got from his CI while he was away.
 
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Rectify that shit.

Hey, stop acting all high and mighty and that I'm not correct on the majority of network programing. We're in a fucking classy HBO thread you NBC peasants!

I might take a peak at it. I honestly hate starting new shows, as I usually always finish them. It's a curse when dealing with bad programing.
 
Rust definitely seemed to relax tremendously around Cohle's wife/children. Can definitely see what some reviews have talked about re: Masculinity as a theme all over that scene. Cohle's wife immediately realizes why Rust is such a trainwreck that night (having a case with missing young girls and a dinner with his partner's kids.) but Rust still won't expose that directly to Cohle.

IT can't be the obivious answer that Rust did it? right guys?
The modern homicide guys clearly think he might have. But yeah, doubt it's that cliche.
 
Just the fact that Hannibal is on network television has kept me from ever watching it.

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He did drugs at his house.

I think it was just normal nose sniffing, not drugs.
 
I don't think he did drugs at his house, I just think Woody was hoping he'd use the phone call as a reason to bail early. That's why he was pissed.
That sounds right to me.
Hey, stop acting all high and mighty and that I'm not correct on the majority of network programing. We're in a fucking classy HBO thread you NBC peasants!

I might take a peak at it. I honestly hate starting new shows, as I usually always finish them. It's a curse when dealing with bad programing.
I'd like to avoid an extended derail here, but I just wanted to point out that Hannibal is only 13-episodes into it's run, and they're ~42 minute episodes. It's not a huge commitment, and it's worth your time. I mostly watch cable programming these days, but there are some gems, like Hannibal, worth exploring on network tv.
 
really liked the premiere. mcconaughey is super great. the mood is kind of what i wanted hannibal to be outside of the visuals, less hammy and memey more meditative and cold.
 
I liked how Rust sees himself as some kind of Jesus figure to the world. That he's sacrificing his tremendous abilities, and his life, just for a world that despises him. And how Marty, an obviously compromised Christian, views this as complete b/s.
 
That sounds right to me.
I'd like to avoid an extended derail here, but I just wanted to point out that Hannibal is only 13-episodes into it's run, and they're ~42 minute episodes. It's not a huge commitment, and it's worth your time. I mostly watch cable programming these days, but there are some gems, like Hannibal, worth exploring on network tv.

Absolutely. I'm not a complete fool. There can be quality entertainment on any network if the the show-runners are skilled and dedicated enough. I'm going by track record and word of mouth, which the latter I have heard almost nothing on Hannibal.

I'm just surprised by the notion, "How dare you not watch NBC!"

Either way, right now I'm still pissed that HBO GO hasn't leaked or released the second episode of TD early. Those were the good ole days.

What was the last quality network drama to exist? This isn't a challenge - legit question.

It's a serious question. I watched The Blacklist and was pretty underwhelmed. I'm looking forward to Greg Kinnear's new program. Looks nothing more than a House-esque program, but might be good for a casual series.
 
I don't watch network drama either. I just don't have time to watch it. I don't have time to watch all the good movies I want to watch as it is. I watch True Detective because I am familiar with Woody Harrelson and McConaughey. I have confident they have eyes to pick a good story.

If one day whoever the guy stars in Hannibal make it big in the big screen, and if I like him then I will go back and watch his earlier stuff.

Also network television doesn't allow showing of cursing, nudity and too much blood, which IMO are important narrative tools. Call me movie elitist if you want.
 
I liked how Rust sees himself as some kind of Jesus figure to the world. That he's sacrificing his tremendous abilities, and his life, just for a world that despises him. And how Marty, an obviously compromised Christian, views this as complete b/s.

I'm not sure Rust is that full of himself, at least not yet. His past and addictions are likely going to be his humanistic qualities. You don't simply become a person like that.
 
What was the last quality network drama to exist? This isn't a challenge - legit question.

Um... well, depends on if we're throwing genre stuff in there as well or what? Just a random smattering:

Hannibal (legitimately great drama)
Person of Interest (legitimately great drama)
The Good Wife (according to ivy, legitimately great drama)
Arrow (if superheroics count?)
Castle (it's comfort food TV, but it is pretty good)
 
Um... well, depends on if we're throwing genre stuff in there as well or what? Just a random smattering:

Hannibal (legitimately great drama)
Person of Interest (legitimately great drama)
The Good Wife (according to ivy, legitimately great drama)
Arrow (if superheroics count?)
Castle (it's comfort food TV, but it is pretty good)

I'd like to add Awake, which aired fairly recent. But got cancelled after 13 episodes. For shame NBC, for shame!
 
I don't really think Arrow is a "legitimately great" show but it is a hell of a lot of fun. I'm only on season 1 though so no spoilers!

I'm just surprised by the notion, "How dare you not watch NBC!"

I don't think anyone ever has said that in 15 years.

What was the last quality network drama to exist? This isn't a challenge - legit question.

Hannibal is on the air now.
 
I liked how Rust sees himself as some kind of Jesus figure to the world. That he's sacrificing his tremendous abilities, and his life, just for a world that despises him. And how Marty, an obviously compromised Christian, views this as complete b/s.

Rust sees himself as flawed as anyone else. In the car-ride dialogue, he admitted that he too was "programmed" like every one else and that he lacked the constitution to commit suicide, which, according to him, is the only rational act for the human race to commit in order to escape their programming and the ghettofied world.
 
I liked how Rust sees himself as some kind of Jesus figure to the world. That he's sacrificing his tremendous abilities, and his life, just for a world that despises him. And how Marty, an obviously compromised Christian, views this as complete b/s.

I didn't get that from Rust at all. He just has a very cynical view of the world and certainly doesn't value himself above anyone/anything else.
 
This looks genuinely great. Unfortunately HBO is not available in Germany. Any chance this could get a delayed iTunes release? If not I might have to wait for the Blu Ray release...
 
I wonder why he was so angry. Seemed like Rust was actually trying?

He did drugs at his house.

He'd been drinking. There's a difference.

I think that not only had he been drinking, he had been taking some quaaludes at the Bar, before he got to the house. He asked the girl at the bar if she could get him something barbitutuate to help him sleep.

The fact that Hunt said that Rust was in the narcotics department before the homicide department leads me to believe that he may have been an undercover agent and got a drug addiction whilst undercover.
 
Does anyone know the role of the guy wearing the blue uniform in the police department? He enters Major Quesada's office when Hart leaves, and Hart doesn't seem to like him. He's also standing alongside Quesada during the press conference.
The fact that Hunt said that Rust was in the narcotics department before the homicide department leads me to believe that he may have been an undercover agent and got a drug addiction whilst undercover.
The fact that his file was sealed seemingly led a lot of his coworkers to assume that he was Internal Affairs.
 
There are so many subtle lovecraft references in this that I'm hoping the marketing was all a bluff and this show is going to go legitimately off the rails into supernatural territory.

That would be the best thing ever.
 
Okay, so I saw thing thing explode on Metacritic, so I thought I'd give it a go.

What a show. It's cerebral, creepy, yet very entertaining. HBO really does know how to make great shows.
 
Does anyone know the role of the guy wearing the blue uniform in the police department? He enters Major Quesada's office when Hart leaves, and Hart doesn't seem to like him. He's also standing alongside Quesada during the press conference.The fact that his file was sealed seemingly led a lot of his coworkers to assume that he was Internal Affairs.

I think they guy wearing the blue is the commanding officer of the street police (I dont know what you would call his position). He isnt happy with the case because it will be his men taken from his resource pool to help find evidence and assist the case because it is a big deal. Thats what I am assuming.

As for the sealed file, I thought Hunt said he was in narcotics and something else which I couldnt remember (which may have been internal affairs) prior to homicide. I cant remember the exact lines that where said though, but I do remember "narcotics" being said. So maybe he wasnt in narcotics but he definitely is was or is a user of barbituates.
 
I very much like how my take on Rust was very different to other peoples'! I think that's a sign of how well written these characters are.
 
There is: HBO Go.

(at least on the Xbox app I'm currently using to re-watch this, I'm not sure about the website...)
I don't have Xbox so I can't use that. I can use my laptop, but I'd like to watch it hassle-free on my TV as a new episode plays every sunday night.

Is there a simultaneous presentation on HBO go as a new episode is playing on normal HBO?
 
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