dragonbane
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PS4 is supply constrained. January should be interesting where both should be able to meet demand.
Major Nelson: Xbox One and 360 Were The Top Selling Consoles In December...in USA
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KoopaTheCasual
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Apparently this is a console war thread. Get with the program, dawg.
Urgh... spend is not a noun.
I've dealt with enough twits today, thank you very much!
hydrophilic attack
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So The One won the most important market.
And with Brazil and Australia, they have the most important EU markets as well.
The age of Sony is done.
And with Brazil and Australia, they have the most important EU markets as well.
The age of Sony is done.
Colonel Nasty
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What was Sonys attach rate number? 2.3?
This isn't a huge surprise. Both consoles were going to more or less sell out of whatever stock was available before Xmas, and the Xbox One was obviously more readily available at retail than the PS4.
This holiday season was always going to be more about who could get product on the shelves. Early adopters were going to come in droves no matter what. Prospective scalpers were going to come in droves no matter what.
Synless
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This is true. Why can't people understand this? I did not see Xbones sold out at any store I went to this past holiday season, I saw PS4s for the first time this week since launch.
Frankfurter
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Immaculate
Banned
man some of you guys are defensive as fuck when it comes to console sales lol
Who says the PS4 didn't beat the 360?
The post on twitter is phrased in such a way that the home console sales could very well be Xbone > PS4 > 360
Well we know US -1.8m, Uk - 364k, Germany, 100k. Thats 2.26m right there. I don't think it's a stretch to believe it sold 750k in the other launch countries combined. France usually sits somewhere in the middle of the Uk and Germany, so it wouldn't surprise me if it hit somewhere around 200k there.
Chobel
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Yep, but it's for WW and not US.
Giant Panda
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All indications pointed Xbox one being much more US centric than the 360. Additionally they haven't even launched in most of the non-US countries.
So The One won the most important market.
And with Brazil and Australia, they have the most important EU markets as well.
The age of Sony is done.
Stay in school brah'
dragonbane
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They beat the 360 if the clever wording by MS is anything to go by. Probably about 700k units for PS4.
To be fair it has been a long long gen. I think these numbers are great within that context
Exactly. So why are you running around excited and happy like MS won already?
Good numbers for MS though.
PS4 still has the lead in the US.How do we know? What is the current projection on sales breakdown? Seems 3M+ (they said more than 3 million, right?) is accurate if these sales are correct. I am bad at math though
But man, this does paint a picture of how dire Sony's PS4 stock was in the USA. We're talking they are under 600k units or less in the USA since they did not beat 360, and as we know they literally sold every unit they could manufacture. How long is it going to take for Sony to finally meet demand in all the countries frothing at the mouth for PS4? Is the fact that they spread their units over 50+ countries only making it look crazier than it really is for the PS4? I mean, don't get me wrong, 4.1 million or whatever is insane, but what I mean is if Sony say had unlimited stock in the USA, what would they have needed to sell to finally hit the demand of everyone who currently had plans to buy one?
Haha, sorry, I used the wrong saying for that. I meant, the rest of the world does not really give a shit about the XBO, save the UK, which is showing clear signs of dramatic slowing down for the XBO already. So I meant it's dry for Microsoft in terms of demand. They MUST do extremely well in the US or UK or they legitimately have no chance to come close to even 360 or PS3 numbers.
https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb
Microsoft said the 360 beat the PS3, not the PS4.
The 360 was the top selling of its respective generation. So we still can't gauge how much the PS4 sold for sure.
LowEndTorque
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Not really.
The fact that the PR release only mentions December and not all of 2013 suggests that it's likely that the PS4 sold more total units in the US in November and December combined. Meaning that there are more PS4's in U.S. homes than there are xbones. If the X1 had outsold PS4 in all of 2013 they would have surely been harping on that in the press release and not just focusing specifically on December (which was only higher due to the supply constraints and PS4 being out of stock everywhere immediately after the 1 million sold in 24 hours).
Half the post are claiming that xone rules America and is leading in the US when that's not the case.
Oops, you're right. Very precise wording - it says 360 won the console sales for last gen consoles, and One won the console sales for new generation consoles. That's totally different indeed. Numbers should be fascinating even more now.
Seriously I didn't see a single Xbox One or a PS4 in stores until very recently.
I believe this is already confirmed
SenjutsuSage
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Damn, Xbox One off to an incredible start for a $500 system. Oh, and nice spinning to the guys attempting to find ways to somehow find a negative in this.
We have quite a lot of numbers/estimates actually.
US Nov (NPD)
US Dec (NPD)
UK
Spain
Germany
France
Extrapolations can be made for the rest of Europe. Keeping in mind that the dec NPD reports numbers until the 4th of January, the likelyhood that they sold over 3M through even before the end of December is rather low.
Agent AA1 said:
I know that. See above.
Dictator93
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So The One won the most important market.
And with Brazil and Australia, they have the most important EU markets as well.
The age of Sony is done.
This actually made me cry a little. It was so beautiful
Sony's PR says they're still LTD leaders of next gen too.
LowEndTorque
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That would settle the debate if you have a legit source.
Never change.
Prob 7-900
Yeah, benny_a clarified. So given what we know, for Sony to have still beat Microsoft's total in North America, what is the range they should have sold in during December? Do any mathematicians have an answer?
Importantly, a 500 dollar system that is net-zero or net-positive per sale which I am guessing the bean counters demanded within the halls of MS.
NPD is sold.
The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
Is it really this hard to just wait for the official NPD's to get some definitive spin-free answers?
Answers to what?
I believe someone said between 680k and 908k
dragonbane
Member
This goes both ways.
saw this earlier
According to the latest NPD report, PlayStation 4 remains the cumulative leader for next gen console sales in the US since the launch on November 15," said Sony's senior director of corporate communications, Dan Race."
I haven't seen numbers to suggest that, actually. This seems pretty much in line with what they'd need to be. If you have info I don't, I'd love to see it though.