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[Pelydr]

Did I miss where you expand on what exactly your "altercation" was? You seem to skip over it in the OP.

 

[Telephoto999]

I'm not gonna shit your thread up and I don't think it's right or fair to be disqualified from those jobs over a single misdemeanor.

But I also do remember you from back then and I also remember how much trash you talked and how much you instigated shit.

I remember you now. Mod on SVT or some site. I'm sure you banned me once or twice. Trolling car forums used to be so much fun because of how riled up dudes get about their vehicles. You grow out of the trolling phase though too. Thanks for the support about the issue here.

 

[Telephoto999]

Did I miss where you expand on what exactly your "altercation" was? You seem to skip over it in the OP.

Mutual "fight" with my girlfriend at the time in her apartment. Neither wanted to press charges.. State picked up charges against me three months later.

 

[CrankyJay]

This thread would be a lot more interesting if one of the OP's recent threads didn't require nuking for orbit and was still visible.

Refresh my memory on what happened again. I looked for it and couldn't find it

You guys are background checking a poster on a thread about background checking. Wow.

 

[Telephoto999]

Refresh my memory on what happened again. I looked for it and couldn't find it

Car got booted. Made a thread about it. Posted a girls information on "accident". Gaf hunted her down and slut shamed her.

 

[Telephoto999]

You guys are background checking a poster on a thread about background checking. Wow.

Backgroundcheckception

 

[HerbertFish]

Mutual "fight" with my girlfriend at the time in her apartment. Neither wanted to press charges.. State picked up charges against me three months later.

Did you hit her? If so it's pretty easy to see why no HR person is going to take a chance on a person they don't know other than the details of that case

 

[TheGamer]

It depends on where you live. For example, where I live, maximum jail sentence for a misdemeanor is six months, not a year.

Really? What State do you live in? Some States have different classifications of misdemeanors. I never heard of one with a max of six months. Felonies are jail sentences that are more than one year, but i was pretty certain in all states, misdemeanors are less than one year, except for Massachusetts where i think the max is 2.5 years for one of its misdemeanors.

 

[Abounder]

With your misdemeanor, debt, no college, gaps in resume, etc. you need to social engineer yourself and network. Exploit every other advantage you can get such as volunteering for community service gigs to turn your profile around for businesses. IT is too important and competitive to take risks on (and that's their perspective).

Personally I would start a business, and you can build your network that way too. All you need is a screwdriver and craigslist to start charging $30-40/hour for basic computer repair.

If you can get rid of your debt I would also seriously consider joining the military as an IT guy. It would help your resume, you can get possibly a masters degree, travel the world, and become more motivated than ever.

Godspeed

 

[ccbfan]

I would gladly take an offer somewhere else as a complete change of pace of it was presented. Sadly, I have 20k+ of credit debt from having to partially live off credit the past 5-8 years and I'm in a very big hole at the moment. Picking up and moving isn't something that would be possible.


Out of curiosity here are my current IT certs. Would this really pull 100k+ there?


CISCO SYSTEMS
CCENT (Cisco Certified Entry Network Technician)


Microsoft (
MCTS: Vista (Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist, Vista)
MCTS: Windows 7
MCITP (Microsoft Certified IT Professional)
MCITP: Enterprise Support Vista
MCITP: Enterprise Support Tech Windows 7
MCDST (Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician)
MCP (Multiple) (Microsoft Certified Professional)
MCSA: Windows 7 (Microsoft Certified Solutions Associate)
MCSA 2003 (Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator Server
2003)


CompTIA
A+
Network+

Brocade
BAIS (Brocade Accredited Internetworking Specialist)

Symantec
STS Endpoint Security 11.0 (Symantec Technical Specialist)

Hewlett Packard
HP “Pathway to Customer Satisfaction”

I'm sorry to say this but these are some low level certs.

Certs some tech support making 40-50K would have because they didn't go to college.

The only decent cert up there is CCENT but you need at minimum a CCNA to really get anything in the Cisco world, preferably a CCNP.

 

[Telephoto999]

Mr awesome..
Just fyi
She beat me over the head with a phone and now works as upper management for an insurance firm.

I'm unemployable and have been for years.. And and begging anyone for a decent opportunity.

I just want this off my record. That's all the thread was posted for and to share my story. It's not just me.. There's millions just like me I promise you.

 

[alvmew]

Really? What State do you live in? Some States have different classifications of misdemeanors. I never heard of one with a max of six months. Felonies are jail sentences that are more than one year, but i was pretty certain in all states, misdemeanors are less than one year, except for Massachusetts where i think the max is 2.5 years for one of its misdemeanors.

Nevada.

Misdemeanors are a max of six months (see Nev. Rev. Stat. 193.150), gross misdemeanors max of a 364 days (see Nev. Rev. Stat. 193.140), and then felonies depending on the category of same (see Nev. Rev. Stat. 193.130).

 

[B For Bendetta]

You guys are background checking a poster on a thread about background checking. Wow.

Well given his attitude in the previous thread, namely a disrespectful and misogynistic attitude towards the young woman involved until the fallout from the lurkers and detective-GAF began to directly affect him, I'm hesitant to feel sorry for, OP. It seems like another situation where he isn't really sorry for how being a douchebag has affected other people's lives, but he is sorry that being a douchebag has negatively affected his life

 

[Telephoto999]

With your misdemeanor, debt, record, no college, gaps in resume, etc. you need to social engineer yourself and network. Exploit every other advantage you can get such as volunteering for community service gigs to turn your profile around for businesses. IT is too important and competitive to take risks on.

Personally I would start a business, and you can build your network that way too. All you need is a screwdriver and craigslist to start charging $30-40/hour for basic computer repair.

If you can get rid of your debt I would also seriously consider joining the military as an IT guy. It would help your resume, you can get possibly a masters degree, travel the world, and become more motivated than ever.

Godspeed

Thanks for the advice but I am unable to join the military with this on my record.

 

[Telephoto999]

Well given his attitude in the previous thread, namely a disrespectful and misogynistic attitude towards the young woman involved until the fallout from the lurkers and detective-GAF began to directly affect him, I'm hesitant to feel sorry for, OP. It seems like another situation where he isn't really sorry for how being a douchebag has affected other people's lives, but he is sorry that being a douchebag has negatively affected his life

That was a troll thread and has no relevance to this. The entire story was explained to dayz Gaf on mumble after it happened. Me and that girl are still friends and despite gafs best efforts it didn't hurt her in the least. Stop. Please.

 

[Rur0ni]

Thanks for the advice but I am unable to join the military with this on my record.

I think you can get a waiver for something like this. It's not a felony. And felonies can be waived as well.

 

[Telephoto999]

I'm sorry to say this but these are some low level certs.

Certs some tech support making 40-50K would have because they didn't go to college.

The only decent cert up there is CCENT but you need at minimum a CCNA to really get anything in the Cisco world, preferably a CCNP.

Thanks for your input?

 

[t26]

One of my friend got something on her record that would prevented her from getting a job working with children, but lucky she was able to get an exemption. So I wish you good luck in your job search OP.

 

[Telephoto999]

I think you can get a waiver for something like this. It's not a felony. And felonies can be waived as well.

Since the crime was deemed domestic it doesn't apply because I can't own or operate a firearm just like a felon.

 

[WanderingWind]

Since the crime was deemed domestic it doesn't apply because I can't own or operate a firearm just like a felon.

This is correct. You are ineligible for military service in the US. All branches.

 

[Telephoto999]

This is correct. You are ineligible for military service in the US. All branches.

Yep. It was one of my first paths of pursuit after missing a few job opportunities as I had a good friend that is a recruiter in the Navy.

 

[Pelydr]

That was a troll thread and has no relevance to this. The entire story was explained to dayz Gaf on mumble after it happened. Me and that girl are still friends and despite gafs best efforts it didn't hurt her in the least. Stop. Please.

Do you describe fights with your former girlfriend as "trolling"? That could be why people won't hire you.

 

[WanderingWind]

Yep. It was one of my first paths of pursuit after missing a few job opportunities as I had a good friend as a recruiter in the Navy.

There is a big sign above rifle ranges that states the law on this and basically threatens death by badger if you're found to have violated it.

 

[Rur0ni]

Ah that's some shit. Life is cruel.

 

[No Love]

Shitty story man, and it's insane that they act this way over a fucking MISDEMEANOR (aka an extremely minor crime). Wow.

 

[Telephoto999]

Do you describe fights with your former girlfriend as "trolling"? That could be why people won't hire you.

I really don't know how to respond to this. Maybe you're right. No one put me in this situation but myself and I take responsibility for what I've done.. But I paid my dues. I continue to pay them every single day I promise you and I don't think anything I've ever done deserves my life to be ruined as it is. I'm telling you.. I'm at my end. My life is RUINED at the moment and I'm doing everything possible to fix it. I posted this as a humble... Non troll. I'm not looking for pity or sympathy.. Just a bit of support.

 

[See You Next Wednesday]

Can't you request the police department to have your record expunged after a set amount of years?

 

[NotMyRealName]

This makes me feel absolutely terrible. At 28 I just got my first DUI. Im also going back to school for an it degree and your story makes me wonder if I should even bother. I've never been so ashamed of myself in my life, and I'm not sure if my depression can handle this complete lack of opportunity going forward

 

[Sons Of Anarchy]

After a certain amount of years depending on the state you no longer have to report it to a potential employer and if it's still be reported after the states alloted time I believe that's illegal as well so I would be going after the reporting agency.

 

[TheGamer]

Nevada.

Misdemeanors are a max of six months (see Nev. Rev. Stat. 193.150), gross misdemeanors max of a 364 days (see Nev. Rev. Stat. 193.140), and then felonies depending on the category of same (see Nev. Rev. Stat. 193.130).

Thanks, it's interesting. It seems like Nevada has the standard misdemeanor and gross misdemeanor is something a little bit worse than standard. I assume they have a petty misdemeanor too. In NY, we have Class A Misdemeanor which is Nevada's Gross Misdemeanor and a Class B Misdemeanor, which is a jail sentence of up to three months. We also have violations which can be considered petty misdemeanors in other states.

 

[Telephoto999]

Can't you request the police department to have your record expunged after a set amount of years?

Georgia doesn't allow expungement of any convictions unless you were under 21 which I was and is the process I'm going through. For anyone over 21 they are SOL and I feel terrible that they don't at least have the legal path I'm going down now as an option.

 

[Telephoto999]

This makes me feel absolutely terrible. At 28 I just got my first DUI. Im also going back to school for an it degree and your story makes me wonder if I should even bother. I've never been so ashamed of myself in my life, and I'm not sure if my depression can handle this complete lack of opportunity going forward

Don't let it bum you too much. That one HR lady told me she'd still hire if it was a dui after all. I think those are looked at much better than my crime.

 

[kehs]

Have you thought about starting your own business?

 

[Loki]

Another example of how of how our broken legal culture inflicts huge costs on individuals and businesses.

This doesn't happen as much in other countries simply because people can't sue companies for millions of dollars if, say, another employee gets into a fight with them and it's discovered that that person had a misdemeanor or even a felony on his record from a decade ago.

Blame the lawyers.

 

[ICKE]

This makes me feel absolutely terrible. At 28 I just got my first DUI. Im also going back to school for an it degree and your story makes me wonder if I should even bother. I've never been so ashamed of myself in my life, and I'm not sure if my depression can handle this complete lack of opportunity going forward

Always have a positive mindset, prior convictions will never stop you from forming your own business and so on.

Education is never a waste and life is about getting hit and carrying on regardless.

 

[NoRéN]

I would feel bad for you but it seems like you made a mistake and now have to pay for it.

I was in a similar situation but I'm an identity theft victim so all the bullshit I've gone through was through no fault of my own.

Time to start considering being your own boss. Start a business.

 

[alvmew]

Thanks, it's interesting. It seems like Nevada has the standard misdemeanor and gross misdemeanor is something a little bit worse than standard. I assume they have a petty misdemeanor too. In NY, we have Class A Misdemeanor which is Nevada's Gross Misdemeanor and a Class B Misdemeanor, which is a jail sentence of up to three months. We also have violations which can be considered petty misdemeanors in other states.

Actually, we don't have petty misdemeanors. So things like traffic tickets, petit larceny, DUI (1st and 2nd without significant bodily harm or death), Domestic Violence (1st and 2nd without significant bodily harm or death), etc. are all misdemeanors with the same "weight" insofar as they all get called misdemeanors on your criminal record and have the same standard punishment range of "being punishable by up to $1,000.00 in fines and/or up to six months in the county/city jail" (of course, individual statutes provide more specific punishments for specific crimes). Interesting stuff.

 

[Telephoto999]

I would feel bad for you but it seems like you made a mistake and now have to pay for it.

I was in a similar situation but I'm an identity theft victim so all the bullshit I've gone through was through no fault of my own.

Time to start considering being your own boss. Start a business.

I paid for this seven years ago. Wow this post really upset me. How many people feel this way?

 

[Valkyr Junkie]

You guys are background checking a poster on a thread about background checking. Wow.

This was behavior from months ago, not years ago.

 

[NotMyRealName]

Always have a positive mindset, prior convictions will never stop you from forming your own business and so on.

Education is never a waste and life is about getting hit and carrying on regardless.

Starting my own business is way out of the question but thank you for the encouragement.

 

[Telephoto999]

This was behavior from months ago, not years ago.

This is the last I'm going to say about that thread. The girl was laying next to me when that thread was posted. We were literally looking at her phone when multiple Gaf members were creating okcupid accounts trying to tell her what a douchebag I was. The posting of her text message with her name was her idea and she got a kick at how some of Gaf reacted. It was in bad taste yes on both our parts.. But please drop it. It has no relevance to the topic.

 

[CrudeDiatribe]

I would feel bad for you but it seems like you made a mistake and now have to pay for it.

Pretty sure that was the fine, probation, and courses he took.

Edit: apparently I need to reload the thread before submitting my reply.

 

[Jimothy]

Crminals are the last group of people you're allowed to legally descriminate against. And with the way the justice system is set up, it's usually poor people with no connections who get convicted most often. It's almost comical how fucked up this country is.

 

[kinggroin]

I was arrested for a misdemeanor at 18, but the judge told me after completing my classes, I would never have to make mention of it on future employment applications. This was in NY.


Now, I'm in FL and have had no problems continuing to apply at (and get hired for) jobs while not mentioning the arrest. However, a new position is requiring that I divulge any and all information regarding any trouble with the law.


Should I, or is it once expunged always expunw and can't be dug up regardless?

 

[TheGamer]

Actually, we don't have petty misdemeanors. So things like traffic tickets, petit larceny, DUI (1st and 2nd without significant bodily harm or death), Domestic Violence (1st and 2nd without significant bodily harm or death), etc. are all misdemeanors with the same "weight" insofar as they all get called misdemeanors on your criminal record and have the same standard punishment range of "being punishable by up to $1,000.00 in fines and/or up to six months in the county/city jail" (of course, individual statutes provide more specific punishments for specific crimes). Interesting stuff.

Yeah it is. What I found most interesting is how one crime can be serious in one State, but totally lenient in another.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Don't let it bum you too much. That one HR lady told me she'd still hire if it was a dui after all. I think those are looked at much better than my crime.

Which is bullshit

Not to say anyone with a DUI should be banned from working or life or whatever, I just have issues with drunk driving (and alcoholism in general) and it's ridiculous that it's considered "better"

 

[FStop7]

I remember you now. Mod on SVT or some site. I'm sure you banned me once or twice. Trolling car forums used to be so much fun because of how riled up dudes get about their vehicles. You grow out of the trolling phase though too. Thanks for the support about the issue here.

Definitely not me, I was never a mod on a car site.

 

[CrunchyB]

Which is bullshit

Not to say anyone with a DUI should be banned from working or life or whatever, I just have issues with drunk driving (and alcoholism in general) and it's ridiculous that it's considered "better"

My sister-in-law's mother was killed by a DUI. She managed to cope with it but her brothers are still an emotional mess, 3 years later. Fuck drunk/drugged drivers, burn their driver's license and give them a year of community service.

 

[sangreal]

This makes me feel absolutely terrible. At 28 I just got my first DUI. Im also going back to school for an it degree and your story makes me wonder if I should even bother. I've never been so ashamed of myself in my life, and I'm not sure if my depression can handle this complete lack of opportunity going forward

What state? Here in NJ it's just a traffic violation, not a criminal offense. Doesn't show up on a criminal background check even at the border. I do find it concerning that you call it your 'first DUI' though as if you expect more

 

[Telephoto999]

My sister-in-law's mother was killed by a DUI. She managed to cope with it but her brothers are still an emotional mess, 3 years later. Fuck drunk/drugged drivers, burn their driver's license and give them a year of community service.

When I was playing poker full time and leaving the casino.. Drunks would literally pour out twenty or thirty at a time. The casinos would happily get their cars for them and the cops would gladly avoid the area around the immediate casinos. It made me so sick to see.