Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

I still don't get the Ridley love. I can't think of a moveset that'd be any way interesting without letting Ridley fly forever which would be really broken.
 
Just in case y'all weren't sick enough of """leaks""", someone on /v/ is dumping new(?) info right now about a Smash Bros. demo for retail kiosks? Is this new or has this appeared before?
 
I was wondering how everyone was creating these custom rosters... now I've finally realized there's been a program for it all along! Slow to catch on, this one is.

Anyway, I took my shot at creating what I consider to be a fairly accurate representation of what I believe the final Smash 4 roster could look like, my personal wishes/biases aside. I feel that most if not all of the non-confirmed veterans in this roster are very likely to return, while the newcomers at least have a real shot at being confirmed with no one being too outlandish or too far into the "pipe dream" category, except for maybe Shulk.

I do believe there's a fairly good chance that Ike, Lucas, Wolf, Lucario, and R.O.B. will all be cut, so I left them out of this roster.

Thoughts?

And let me know if I missed something obvious, I'm super jet-lagged. :P

EDIT: Updated the roster to include a character I forgot (Zero Suit Samus, sharing a slot with Samus) and rearranged a few slots to be a little more appropriately grouped/ordered.

 
Takamaru is favourite for the NES revival category. The Nintendoland game kind of helped seal the deal.

Though knowing Sakurai he may consider Takamaru so predictable that he uses someone else.
 
Just in case y'all weren't sick enough of """leaks""", someone on /v/ is dumping new(?) info right now about a Smash Bros. demo for retail kiosks? Is this new or has this appeared before?

I'm looking at it now and I'm pretty sure Europe never got a Brawl demo but I remember Japan did for retailers. Still though, we can only hope and wait.

Apparently there's promotional art for these characters:

Shulk
Wonder Red
Ashley
Ridley
Takamaru
Skull Kid
Mewtwo
Palutena
Lyn
Barbara the Bat
Cranky Kong
Isaac
Proto Man
Male Wii Fit Trainer
Female Villager

Obviously just a rumour but even so. It's nice to hope.
 
Just in case y'all weren't sick enough of """leaks""", someone on /v/ is dumping new(?) info right now about a Smash Bros. demo for retail kiosks? Is this new or has this appeared before?

If you don't mind, could copy and paste that here? I collect fake leaks.
 
Why Takamaru?

Although I'm surprised he hasn't appeared in a Fire Emblem game yet.

It's missing a Golden Sun character but it has Shulk so I'll forgive you.

Thanks to Nintendo Land, I feel Takamaru could replace R.O.B. as the out-of-nowhere, weird, super-retro character in the roster (other than Mr. Game & Watch). Also, I did consider including Isaac and I do think he'd be a great addition, but the Golden Sun series is long dead and isn't really that well-remembered by anyone other than its fans, while Xenoblade is a recent Nintendo hit and the game is still very popular, with either a direct or spiritual sequel on the way for Wii U... so Shulk felt like the likelier choice to me.
 
I'm looking at it now and I'm pretty sure Europe never got a Brawl demo but I remember Japan did for retailers. Still though, we can only hope and wait.

Apparently there's promotional art for these characters:

Shulk
Wonder Red
Ashley
Ridley
Takamaru
Skull Kid
Mewtwo
Palutena
Lyn
Barbara the Bat
Cranky Kong
Isaac
Proto Man
Male Wii Fit Trainer
Female Villager

Obviously just a rumour but even so. It's nice to hope.

Well we know MFT is a thing. At least. Can you PM me the link to this topic in question or is it all in Japanese? And Protoman? Alt costume at best.
 
I'm looking at it now and I'm pretty sure Europe never got a Brawl demo but I remember Japan did for retailers. Still though, we can only hope and wait.

Apparently there's promotional art for these characters:

Shulk
Wonder Red
Ashley
Ridley
Takamaru
Skull Kid
Mewtwo
Palutena
Lyn
Barbara the Bat
Cranky Kong
Isaac
Proto Man
Male Wii Fit Trainer
Female Villager

Obviously just a rumour but even so. It's nice to hope.

I don't think that rumor is legit since he told us where he work at. People would hunt him down if it's true. I put italic on characters whom would be more likely to be assist trophies.
 
The Proto Man thing kills it. No way in hell is Proto Man going to be playable separately from Mega Man, so unless this supposed promotional art is advertising Assist Trophies too (and why would it?)... nope.

quote from fake leaker

The thing about this is that we’ve only got art of these characters and no screenshots, so it’s hard to tell if they’re playable or not. We just received a .ZIP full of art. No descriptions, nothing else. Some like the last three in particular I’m fairly sure are alt costumes, but some (like Cranky Kong for instance) we have no idea about yet- could be Newcomers, could be Assist Trophies (and given that Skull Kid and Ashley are in there, we know that at least SOME of these characters are assists)
 
You know what would make this amazing. Those are all assist trophies.

He should post the art though. Just for kicks. Of course he's probably making it all up so meh.
 
All rumours are fake.

This one is real though.
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A true room oar.
 
I have to wonder if the stage will feature the voice acting. On one hand, it'd probably get grating after playing the stage several times, but on the other, it'd be nice to have it as an option.

Maybe Viridi can make comments on the battle as it progresses?

Also, please Sakurai give us a KI:U stage on Wii U. I know you're doing the whole platform-exclusive stage thing, but Uprising deserves representation on the Wii U. Same goes for the mainline Pokemon games and a few other handheld series.
 
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So the question is... is this Sakurai making fun of us for believing that 'fake' Palutena leak, or is he giving us a hint that the leak was true?

I'm sorry fox, but Viridi is just too big. Palutena to be the next stage hazard as well
;-; #TeamReal

And my god, Sakurai has to have a GAF account or something. He's posting here I'm sure.
 
I have to wonder if the stage will feature the voice acting. On one hand, it'd probably get grating after playing the stage several times, but on the other, it'd be nice to have it as an option.

Maybe Viridi can make comments on the battle as it progresses?

Also, please Sakurai give us a KI:U stage on Wii U. I know you're doing the whole platform-exclusive stage thing, but Uprising deserves representation on the Wii U. Same goes for the mainline Pokemon games and a few other handheld series.

He will pick a location from either the NES or the Game Boy. So technically it is possible.
 
We obviously need Pit codecs on that stage.

Obviously.
Considering how great some of the Snake ones were, I'm totally on board with this.

ESPECIALLY if it means Captain Falcon is in, then all the Uprising characters can do their best FALCON PAWNCH impression.
 
I have to wonder if the stage will feature the voice acting. On one hand, it'd probably get grating after playing the stage several times, but on the other, it'd be nice to have it as an option.

Maybe Viridi can make comments on the battle as it progresses?

Also, please Sakurai give us a KI:U stage on Wii U. I know you're doing the whole platform-exclusive stage thing, but Uprising deserves representation on the Wii U. Same goes for the mainline Pokemon games and a few other handheld series.
I think every character that has had voice acting should be voiced in Smash as well.
yes, even Other M just to be fair
 
I think every character that has had voice acting should be voiced in Smash as well.
yes, even Other M just to be fair

The voice actor for Samus in Other M, Jessica Martin, is actually a really cool and passionate person who loves the character, but she got blasted for her work in the game. Usually when there's a problem with voice acting, however, it's not the actress, it's the voice director's fault, and according to this interview, the voice recording process was not very smooth.

So I'd be happy to have Jessica Martin return for another shot at Samus, with someone a bit more competent doing the direction (and Sakurai overlooking of course).
 
Usually VA's aren't bad. It's generally the voice direction from supervisors that is to blame. And since Sakurai is on deck and with Uprising I'm sure he could pull it off.
 
The voice actor for Samus in Other M, Jessica Martin, is actually a really cool and passionate person who loves the character, but she got blasted for her work in the game. Usually when there's a problem with voice acting, however, it's not the actress, it's the voice director's fault, and according to this interview, the voice recording process was not very smooth.

So I'd be happy to have Jessica Martin return for another shot at Samus, with someone a bit more competent doing the direction (and Sakurai overlooking of course).

I still blame Sakamoto for all the game's shortcomings.

Honestly after KIU and FEA, I think I can trust whoever Sakurai / Nintendo chooses for their voice actors.
 
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