Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

Guys, here's all I want and I'll be happy. Rate how probable these are to be in Smash 4:

Palutena
#teamreal
Bayonetta
Solid Snake
Wonder Red
Banjo-Kazooie


GO GO GO

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Since it appears a good chunk of the veteran characters appear relatively unchanged from Brawl, I'd like to ask you all this, which characters do you hope Sakurai alters prior to release? For me Sonic was unique and am aware he was designed to be unpredictable but I'm hoping they change his side special at least (I'm not too bothered if they don't).

again Samus for me. I know Sakurai listed her tweaks already but I would have liked a bigger shake up. Other than that, I'd be happy if her final smash didn't leave her in her zero suit anymore. I'd be even happier if her final smash was power bomb related instead of some giant beam. Might also be nice if instead of using the power bomb as an offensive final smash you could use it for a crystal flash instead.
 
I think character additions are a Sakurai decision. Therefore I will be lame and not make aimless suggestions that could make me happy for 45 seconds.
 
Bayonetta to be unlockable for having Bayonetta 2 save data.

& then Nintendo costumes like Zero Suit Samus in B2 for having SSB4 save data.
 
Can I get DJ K.K. Slider in this new game? I don't care if it's only on the 3DS version, I just want to hear those remixes.

... If it is 3DS version though, he should totally mix your town tune into his set like he does during the game.
 
Bayonetta to be unlockable for having Bayonetta 2 save data.

& then Nintendo costumes like Zero Suit Samus in B2 for having SSB4 save data.

Forcing you to own another game to unlock characters/stages and shit is such a horrible idea. Trophies, maybe (since they did that back in Melee), but that's it.
 
Why do people even like Banjo? He's got one of the worst designs in cartoon video game history.

Yes I include all of Sonic's friends in that comparison.
 
Forcing you to own another game to unlock characters/stages and shit is such a horrible idea. Trophies, maybe (since they did that back in Melee), but that's it.
Alt method would be to...I don't know, play 500 Vs. matches? I think the only way Bayonetta would make it in is as a cross-promo for Bayonetta 2 since Nintendo's publishing it.

.....now I'm imagining a stage where you fight on that clock tower from the intro of the first game, maybe have some bosses in the background.

Edit: & now I also imagined getting a trophy of the Brawl box/case for having Brawl save data on your Wii U. Or heck, have the N64 case &/or cartridge as a trophy as well.
 
Alt method would be to...I don't know, play 500 Vs. matches? I think the only way Bayonetta would make it in is as a cross-promo for Bayonetta 2 since Nintendo's publishing it.

.....now I'm imagining a stage where you fight on that clock tower from the intro of the first game, maybe have some bosses in the background.

Yeah, I'm fine with characters that you can unlock with save data, or through normal means, like what Mario Kart Wii did with Rosalina.
 
Alt method would be to...I don't know, play 500 Vs. matches? I think the only way Bayonetta would make it in is as a cross-promo for Bayonetta 2 since Nintendo's publishing it.

It'd still be complete bullshit if that was her primary unlock method, as the vast majority of Smash players will probably never even touch Bayo2, and almost no one does the "do # of VS matches" method of unlocking characters do to how tedious it is. She should be unlocked by some goal in single player or such, just like almost everyone else.
 
Why do people even like Banjo? He's got one of the worst designs in cartoon video game history.

Yes I include all of Sonic's friends in that comparison.

what!!! A bear named banjo who plays the banjo wears shorts,has a bro necklace and has a sarcastic red bird in his backpack. What's not to like about that. His design is simple yet unique.And besides that the bear and the bird have a ton of potential for an amazing moveset.
too bad they'll never be in the game.
 
Does anyone here remember the insta-win exploit against CPUs in Melee? You fought 1v1, human versus level 9 Ness on Jungle Japes, one stock. Ness would spawn on the right, you on the left. As long as you didn't move, Ness would shorthop once, do his second jump to the gap between your platform and the main one, and try to PK Thunder to recover. Thanks to the loose arc of the recovery, it would have a 100% chance of hitting the lip of the platform you were on, instantly rendering Ness helpless and killing him in the water. It was an easy way to get some of the more tedious versus qualifiers.

Did Brawl have anything similar?
 
Does anyone here remember the insta-win exploit against CPUs in Melee? You fought 1v1, human versus level 9 Ness on Jungle Japes, one stock. Ness would spawn on the right, you on the left. As long as you didn't move, Ness would shorthop once, do his second jump to the gap between your platform and the main one, and try to PK Thunder to recover. Thanks to the loose arc of the recovery, it would have a 100% chance of hitting the lip of the platform you were on, instantly rendering Ness helpless and killing him in the water. It was an easy way to get some of the more tedious versus qualifiers.

Did Brawl have anything similar?

Special Brawl, turn flowers on, set to 1 HP and give yourself a handicap. Instant game end.

Something like this.
 
what!!! A bear named banjo who plays the banjo wears shorts,has a bro necklace and has a sarcastic red bird in his backpack. What's not to like about that. His design is simple yet unique.And besides that the bear and the bird have a ton of potential for an amazing moveset.
too bad they'll never be in the game.

Banjo looks like a malformed monkey with a shaven Coati snout grafted on.

Just look at his ugly bald monkey hands.
 
Why don't we have all the characters unlocked, because having unlockable characters serves no purpose in this regard.

I was just using it as an example.
And I mean inhuman "you can't do this unless you're a complete god" level.

The only reason she's even moderately feasible is that Nintendo has a game to promote and Kamiya is friends with Sakurai.
Although honestly I would much rather have Wonder Red if it was a toss-up between the two.
 
Wonder Red would need to have his Final Ultimate Legendary Earth Power Super Max Justice Future Miracle Dream Beautiful Galaxy Big Bang Little Bang Sunrise Starlight Infinite Fabulous Totally Final Wonderful Arrow as a Final Smash.
 
The only reason she's even moderately feasible is that Nintendo has a game to promote and Kamiya is friends with Sakurai.
Although honestly I would much rather have Wonder Red if it was a toss-up between the two.

Ah ok.

I also believe she No chance. No chance in hell! No chance thats what you got!
 
Wonder Red would need to have his Final Ultimate Legendary Earth Power Super Max Justice Future Miracle Dream Beautiful Galaxy Big Bang Little Bang Sunrise Starlight Infinite Fabulous Totally Final Wonderful Arrow as a Final Smash.

His entrance has his landing on the ground from the Virgin Victory, declaring, "Diplomacy has failed. Team! Unite up!"
 

I'd give her roughly a 45% chance. Sakurai is really wanting to add more women, she's a perfect candidate.

Bayonetta

10%. No Bayo 2 release date yet means game could turn into 2015 territory. She's a third party rep that could replace Snake but I see likelihood low.

Solid Snake

5%. Konami seems to be done with the David Hayter versions of Snake in so far, and their Nintendo support is lacking. Sutherland isn't going to do Smash Bros., and his version of Snake would be weird to see. Their lack of Nintendo support has me doubt Nintendo goes back to them to even ask.

Wonder Red

3%. Low selling title, new IP no one has heard of. I don't think he has much to give for a moveset yet, and the future of the IP is likely non-existent.

Banjo-Kazooie

1%. I can actually envision this if Nintendo procures the rights back for the series and produces a new title. However, Microsoft has pretty much barred the characters from being on a Nintendo platform again- despite allowing Rare to work and use other characters in the DK Racing remake. It makes me believe there's probably even less than 1% chance, even though I'd love to see them.
 
3%. Low selling title, new IP no one has heard of. I don't think he has much to give for a moveset yet, and the future of the IP is likely non-existent.

I don't know, you could do some fun stuff with a giant hand (a smash attack that involves flicking giant index and middle fingers, gun-style, at his opponent comes to mind). He has also the less character-specific Unite Morphs to work with, like Unite Glider, Unite Ball, Unite Guts/Unite Spikes, Unite Spring, and Unite Tombstone.
 
I had a dream Nintendo released SSB4 out of the blue like Beyoncé's album. There was a huge roster full of really lame characters, but the only one I remember is Waluigi. I was pretty disappointed with the roster so waking up was a relief :p
 
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