True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st

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This show just puts me in a trance when I'm watching it. I don't know if it's the visuals, the pacing or the performances. But I just zone out to it and block out everything else. So many great lines but "who walks that fucking slow?" made me actually bust out laughing. Rust and Cohle are just so fascinating.
 
Bloodrage said:
That's a badass illustration, man. Avatarized.

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Whoever uses the Rust avatar better go into random threads and make depressing comments...

nilbog21 said:
Would you guys say Rust is a nihilist, or is it more complicated than that?
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That must be exhausting.
 
I just realized something. So Marty suspects his wife and Rust have some sort of connection/crush thing going on. In the bedroom argument scene, Marty sort of emulates Rust and plays the bleak outlook/depression card in order to get his wife's sympathy. This goes against everything we've seen thus far about him: he always seems relatively carefree and happy.

I doubt it's relevant or if it's even accurate, but I thought it was interesting.

edit: nevermind. I just rewatched the scene and he looked pretty convincing.
 
Jetman said:
I think this and the fact that he hasn't put a bullet in his own head yet, show that he isn't beyond redemption in some form. (Even though I really dig the character the way he is)

Or maybe he just likes the torture of living in a life that he's let beat him down every step of the way.
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Yeah. I'm still banking on Rust once being a happy man with his family and being religious. But that his daughter dying and his marriage falling apart made him lose faith in the comforts of living, and it shattered then illusion of the world that he once saw.

Imagine if you lost a child. It's totally understandable why someone would bug out and lose faith in everything. I'm an agnostic and don't believe in God. Therefore if this happened to me, I wouldn't be angry at a deity (not to say that all religious people would. Plenty of religious people don't think that God intervenes, and that we live in a free world).

But even I would lose my faith about my life. It would all just come shattering down and I would be disillusioned. I think everyone more or less has a life pattern that is regulated and grounded. Yeah things are always changing, but we definitely rely on this. Having that completely pulled beneath you would turn your world upside down. Rust is an extremely intelligent man, I bet he feels like a fool for having been happy and living the way he did (thinking it was something permanent). I bet a lot of his views are a criticism of how he used to be and the anger he feels for allowing himself to (in his mind), get tricked into it. Probably why he's so critical of everyone else, because he sees who he used to be in them. And he probably figures it's only a matter of time before the same thing happens to them that happened to him.

At least that's my take on the guy.
 
cinematography in this show is so amazing

really good episode in general i thought, though i'm losing track of how the case pieces together
 
Unfortunately that last shot was really prominent in the commercial that played a bunch, lessened the impact the bit.
 
xtrasauce said:
That's what I thought but couldn't find any source. Anyway, that warms the cockles of my heart. Wish more shows were shot on film. And by "more", I mean one more because I feel like there aren't any others at the moment...?
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I don't have a problem with digital. I think many filmmakers and DP's have shown that you can do it. I'm pretty sure the director talks about using film in the "making of" for episode 1.

EDIT: obviously I don't have a preference for digital, because this show is obviously beautiful to look at. I'm just not convinced that the director and his staff couldn't do a similar thing using digital. I've seen a few movies filmed in digital that were just beautiful to look at. Something like Traffic with all of the crazy development and color treatments could probably be done very easily these days with digital (this is an assumption so forgive me if I'm completely wrong).
 
potam said:
I just realized something. So Marty suspects his wife and Rust have some sort of connection/crush thing going on. In the bedroom argument scene, Marty sort of emulates Rust and plays the bleak outlook/depression card in order to get his wife's sympathy. This goes against everything we've seen thus far about him: he always seems relatively carefree and happy.

I doubt it's relevant or if it's even accurate, but I thought it was interesting.

edit: nevermind. I just rewatched the scene and he looked pretty convincing.
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Good observation! Marty probably isn't clever enough to either suspect there's something going on or to emulate Rust, but it could still be a hint of things to come.

lamaroo said:
Looks like Sam Rockwell. Now I want Rockwell in the next season.
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Sam Rockwell should be in everything
 
mre said:
Disagree with that last sentence.
Just because they showed him a picture of the victim doesn't mean they've shown him "evidence." They showed him a picture of the victim, but they were clearly more interested in his reaction than anything he could have told them about her.
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I thought that a picture of the victim would be evidence. If you were a serial killer and saw a picture of one of your victims, you could then identify which victim they are questioning you about. If you did kill her, then you would know when exactly they are talking about and could formulate an alibi.

Im not sure how the criminal law system works exactly. But I was assuming a photo of the victim would be evidence.
They also left the entire file on the table as they walked out of the room at one stage in the third episode and Rust just looks at it closed on the table but doesnt open it

HalfBakedProphet said:
yup. After rewatching ep 1, I think they are more concerned specifically with Rust, how he handled the case and why he did things the way he did. I won't be surprised if they get more antagonistic and accusatory with their line of questioning later on.
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I dont doubt that they get more interrogative. However I believe they are investigating more about what happend after the Dora Lang case closed - the unofficial investigation by him and Rust and whether they found any other potential suspects.

xbhaskarx said:
Who is this dude?
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Im not saying I know but in one of the promo's
there is a cop doing an army-type roll and pulls a gun out that looks like this guy. I reckon he is back up for the raid Rust and Marty do on the gas mask man's house
 
Just noticed that when Rust is talking with Maggie he is folding up paper mindlessly, similar to what he does to the beer cans during questioning in present day.

(or maybe that was prepping napkins for the dinner table?)
 
chicko1983 said:
I thought that a picture of the victim would be evidence. If you were a serial killer and saw a picture of one of your victims, you could then identify which victim they are questioning you about. If you did kill her, then you would know when exactly they are talking about and could formulate an alibi.

Im not sure how the criminal law system works exactly. But I was assuming a photo of the victim would be evidence.
They also left the entire file on the table as they walked out of the room at one stage in the third episode and Rust just looks at it closed on the table but doesnt open it
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That's definitely a common tactic for homicide detectives. They'll show the suspect a picture of the deceased and then watch their reaction, specifically their eye movements. Depending on what direction the eyes move in, they can work out if the suspect is remembering something or having a specific cognitive reaction

I'd need to watch it again but I don't think Rust's eyes moved left, right, or up. He just stared straight at it and had absolutely no reaction whatsoever.
 
I'm enjoying this show every week like the best caviar in the world, do you guys think that maybe we're watching one of the best tv shows ever made?

I men, Breaking Bad, Sopranos,The Wire and the usual suspects are top notch but man...TD is something else...
 
I rewatched the first episode and caught a lot of stuff I probably missed the first time. This show is really good at what it sets out to do. Some of the scenes with Rust and Marty are downright hilarious on second viewing. Woody does a really good job at making faces in episode 1.
 
see5harp said:
I rewatched the first episode and caught a lot of stuff I probably missed the first time. This show is really good at what it sets out to do. Some of the scenes with Rust and Marty are downright hilarious on second viewing. Woody does a really good job at making faces in episode 1.
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I agree man. That first episode set the bar extremely high. It's a testament to the whole production that there's been no real fall-off from its plateau. That Black Angels song playing over the credits after Rust says to "start asking the right fucking questions" has never sounded so ominous and foreboding.
 
"If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward, then brother that person is a piece a shit and I'd like to get as many of them as possible out in the open."

I go to Banshee for fists and tits, but damn True Detective has got the writing.

EDIT: And that final line he has this episode, about
realizing at the very end of your life that all your pleasure and pain was just a dream you were having in a locked room about being a person...

Damn. Really good stuff.
 
I'm very close to loving this series. The final minutes of Ep. 3 was perfection. Just stellar visuals & dialogue in those final mintues.

Between this and Hannibal, I think it'll be a pretty spectacular start for TV this year.
 
Mackenzie 92 said:
With the the 2 week break I think I'm gonna suck it up and wait till the season finale so I can marathon them. It's only 5 more episodes, right?
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Good luck with that.

I've got a couple friends on board now so I'll either be watching with them or at least talking about each episode.

It's such a heavy show that I don't mind the week's wait in between. These 2 weeks will be rough, though.
 
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