Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments
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He's being replaced with Red Hulk.
Had wolf been in the game before i would have agreed but Falco is basically entrenched in the franchise.
It's not that i hate the character or i like falco/fox more, i can't really say i have favourites honestly. Perhaps just make him a bit more different somehow. Krystal would also be a pretty cool addition.
I'm definitely going to play the wii u version because it's pretty much tradition in my family lol.
I hope that Snake rumour is false.
It's actually The Mask that's getting cut.
Which version do y'all think you will be playing more?
I have a feeling it will be the 3DS version for me since I can bring it everywhere with me
I'm getting both, but I'm going to be playing the Wii U version far more because of the additional control options, HD, more personal multiplayer with my friends/brothers and the game in general just looks beautiful.
Both will be played for hundreds of hours though! I'm really excited, and I really hope that online will be relatively lag free. In Brawl, the lag made it hard to cope when playing my mains (who require fast inputs), such as Marth, Fox and Pit.
Guys did you already noticed the two characters per month pattern? Is just as I predicted some months ago (not the characters but the timing of their announcements).
I'm pretty sure that in February we are getting Diddy Kong and another character (Captain Falco or Ness?), March is definitly Yoshi and another random (R.O.B?), then when Hyrule Warriors releases it would be Ganondorf or Sheik, by the time X comes out or there is a direct in which it is highlited we can have our new character reveal (Shulk if he is in, and this trailer could be the E3 one or one after that and the E3 one could go to a third party character be it Pac-Man or Snake). The rest of them would be returning characters and when there is a direct only focused on Smash we can get the last character reveal which obviously would be a newcomer.
What do you think?
I'm pretty sure that in February we are getting Diddy Kong and another character (Captain Falco or Ness?), March is definitly Yoshi and another random (R.O.B?), then when Hyrule Warriors releases it would be Ganondorf or Sheik, by the time X comes out or there is a direct in which it is highlited we can have our new character reveal (Shulk if he is in, and this trailer could be the E3 one or one after that and the E3 one could go to a third party character be it Pac-Man or Snake). The rest of them would be returning characters and when there is a direct only focused on Smash we can get the last character reveal which obviously would be a newcomer.
What do you think?
Wow, I went to the veteran reveal topic. It's really terrible. I'm glad most of the drive-by trolling is kept at bay there.
For some reason I always interpreted those lines about Lucario and Mewtwo to mean that they were very different compared to each other. Which I guess doesn't make too much sense since they were very much different already. <_<
For some reason I always interpreted those lines about Lucario and Mewtwo to mean that they were very different compared to each other. Which I guess doesn't make too much sense since they were very much different already. <_<
Even a 50% cap is too high. One of the basic tenants of smash is "not getting hit" which means, a good player who avoids taking damage is at an inherent disadvantage for no reason.
There's an easy way of balancing it that's already been suggested. His aura should increased based on the damage dealt by the player.
To be fair, Sheik appeared only in OoT. But I don't see them adding Girahim in indeed.
Posts like these are the worst part of Smash character discussion.
She was planned for TP. That's where the Brawl design came from.
Ha, I actually expected another character this week... probably only one next month, though. Diddy midway through, or maybe a newcomer via a Direct.
Lucario is probably my least favorite Pokemon AND my least favorite Smash character, to the extent that I actively dislike him in both cases. But I don't mind seeing him back, because one by one we're seeing the most likely characters to be cut... not cut. Toon Link is in, Lucario is in... I think only Wolf, Lucas, and Ike are still in the "danger zone." And Snake, who's entirely up to Konami, I imagine.
Lucario is probably my least favorite Pokemon AND my least favorite Smash character, to the extent that I actively dislike him in both cases. But I don't mind seeing him back, because one by one we're seeing the most likely characters to be cut... not cut. Toon Link is in, Lucario is in... I think only Wolf, Lucas, and Ike are still in the "danger zone." And Snake, who's entirely up to Konami, I imagine.
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I was thinking this also, but we don't know when the leaker got the info, maybe Sakurai woke up last sunday and was like "let me reveal Lucario next week". Or even he knows about the leaked list that seems to be on point and wan'ts to throw it off.
People on NeoGAF really believe that Mewtwo isn't a furry.
As a non-furry, I had half a mind to post some PG-13 Mewtwo pics just to shut them up in the Lucario reveal topic.
Why would Lucas be in the "danger zone". Ike, Wolf, and Snake I can understand though.
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At least, we know that we are getting two characters next month for sure. Donkey Kong Country Return 2 release date (Feb 13), and Nintendo Direct. I'm really looking forward for more daily images since this week have been fantastic.
Maybe Sakurai is the leaker.
"Semi-clone" (I know not really but in looks), second character of a minor series, only showed up in one game... I've always thought of him as the least likely to go, since the Mother series is so beloved and all. Still near the bottom, though.
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What if Sakurai is feeding us fake leaks to discredit the real leaks?
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Neko Godot
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Well I was expecting Lucario back, but not revealed this soon and not revealed before Pokemon Trainer or a possible Mewtwo. Surprised it took this long to reveal a second Pokemon rep though, and I wonder how long it will be before mention is made to MegaLucario, if that form even exists in this game.
I dunno, then you could have a powerful character running around with low percentage. Taking damage seems like a better risk vs. reward.
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It goes deep enough that it'll be involved in the plots of both Metal Gear Solid 5 AND Assassin's Creed 5.
Poltergust
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I mentioned this in the Lucario thread, but he's high-tier in Brawl. He's actually a very balanced character in the grand scheme of things, like Zero Suit Samus and Toon Link.
How do you "take damage" though?
Do you just let the opponent hit you? Do you play sloppy? Taunt? From what i've seen, Lucario main who played like that in competitive Smash did not go out of their way to make use out of aura. At best, it was a nice bonus for Lucario at high %.
theprodigy
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And as I responded in the other thread, this is only because Brawl had no combos, and one could argue Lucario should be in mid tier anyway
Starphoenix
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Bingo.
How does Lucario fight in Pokemon games?
How does Zelda and Sheik fight?
How does Captain Falcon fight anywhere?
2 wrongs don't make a right! I cited Ness remember :d
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Nonsense.
I am the ultimate arbiter of the characters and my decree is the only factor by which they are worthy to enter the blessed kingdom of Smash.
The objections of the unwashed masses are empty bellows from the senseless hearts of fools.
That's how I see it, as a bonus. In the end it's still more advantageous to not take damage, but if you do you have a better chance to make a comeback.
But if you could power up by doing damage, you would widen the gap between players. I look at it more as a comeback mechanic.
True, but I mentioned them just to point out that things have to be added to make characters fit.
Btw my Ness knows PK Tacos
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I already said that that has no relevance to my point.
OK, so Brawl had no combos... so what? Brawl is Brawl. Revven was saying that Lucario was mediocre in Brawl.
And even if he dropped a tier, he'd still be better than 70% of the cast. That's far from being mediocre.
Werewolf Jones
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Damn Lucario has gotten a lot more attention than usual veterans. Everyone's tryin' to put him down, I wanted him in Brawl badly back when I was 16 and when he got confirmed it didn't do much for him for some reason. I'm glad Sakurai put him in over Mewtwo though mainly because there's too much Gen Wun repping in Pokémon. Of course Mewtwo could always come back away and if secret characters are still a thing I'd love to see Mewtwo as one.
IntelliHeath
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Look at Lucario! He's flying in Iron Man Style!
theprodigy
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Yeah and we all know Sakurai loves his "comeback mechanics"....
and Poltergust, I'm going to stop giving you the same responses in two different threads
I'm guessing our dear friend Anth0ny loves it :lol
Look at Lucario! He's flying in Iron Man Style!
It would be nice if extreme speed did multiple hits.
It would be nice if it did even one
Poltergust
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Yeah and we all know Sakurai loves his "comeback mechanics"....
and Poltergust, I'm going to stop giving you the same responses in two different threads
Comeback mechanics? As far as I can remember, Lucario is the only character with such a feature.
Well, there is also the "die too many times and get a free Final Smash even if they are turned off" thing, but that's never seen in tournament play.
Yeah, we really should keep responses to one thread, but my point still stands. I think it's also foolish to think that a character will suck (or be great) when we've seen so little about the game and its mechanics.
How? Rewarding good play doesn't widen the gap between players. In fact, it gives Lucario mains an incentive to get better at the game.
I'm still mad that he doesn't get PK Rockin
PS: You'll never guess what my Ness learns.