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So I've been thinking about ZZZ and why its story and writing for the most part (there's exceptions) are so much worse in comparison to WuWa and maybe Thick Thighs Save Lives Thick Thighs Save Lives will have something to add cuz he's playing HSR unlike me. But the more I look into it, the more it feels like ZZZ writers are just doing their job from paycheck to paycheck, writing long ass text vomits to meet monthly quota to get a bonus and that's it. Nobody cares how good this writing is or if it improves the game's story, characters or not, it's just there. It reminds me of 1.0 GFL2 actually.

I heard from one of the people I know that HSR writing is better as well as the story, but there's so much text there that he just quit cuz he couldn't handle it anymore. So why then ZZZ team has such bad writers and miHoYo doing fuck all to fix this? Like, yeah, ZZZ doesn't have WuWa's presentation quality when it comes to story, dialogues, camera works etc., but I think better writing at least can make us accept it for what it is. I think we should use surveys to let them know about the issues in hope that they'll fix it someday, cuz man oh man it's really not good and it should be embarrassing for them to continue doing absolutely nothing to fix this.

Like, 2.1 story was better than 2.0 giant borefest, but events and shit are just as bad for the most part as they were before - lots of text vomits, completely unnesasary banter about nothing significant and these Babgboo events can fuck right off.
 
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star rail has the advantage of being an rpg, so they actually allow you to pick fun dialogue choices, and there's a lot of random conversations that pop up; they also do a lot of references or self-aware stuff, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's "better", they just have more fun with it.
 
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Some footage of the 3 new characters. The one thing I have to say, the animations of the tentacles are really well done, it looks really fluid and cool. Outside of that, nothing impressed me too much.

 
Pejo said:
Some footage of the 3 new characters. The one thing I have to say, the animations of the tentacles are really well done, it looks really fluid and cool. Outside of that, nothing impressed me too much.

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Mage girl looks OK, they gotta fix that burst tho, it was glitching out hard.
Octopus girl is a pass for me. I don't like it at all.
 
Are they for real? Another Ice attacker?✋:messenger_tears_of_joy:

HELL NO!, even though she's Rapture. I REALLY don't like Yidhari design from top to bottom, just ugh, bland and boring. I mean, the old nun design looked like an awful hentai reject and this new one is not better. If they think it was worth the effort to redesign her and that she'll be popular they're delusional. I can't name a single fimale character in the game which I don't like (even lolis which are playable in the game now), but Yidhari... 🤮

Lucia though, fuck yeah! Her animations and character model in the menu are obviously unfinished and lack polish, her Ult glitches out during combat and not finished too, but I like her playstyle a lot as well as the fact that she summons stuff from her book and uses it in combat, really cool. I really, Really hope that she's as active in combat as Yuzu cuz I don't need another "one button Astra" on my teams.

So yeah,

Yidhari - GTFO of my sight!:messenger_angry:👉

Lucia - Please come home!🙏:messenger_relieved:

Manato - He's okay, free via Pulls and combat kit looks alright so nothing to complain about.
 
Hmm... maybe I was too harsh on Octopus Mommy. I still can't get behind those recycled outfit pants from Yixuan and that one-leg pantyhose lifted from Jane. I'll need to see more of her though.
 
I mean, Lucia's design looks more unique when it comes to her whole outfit and it actually fits her role and what she does, whereas hentai reject is just... salvaged and refurbished asset flip which happens to be DPS no Miyabi and Ellen owner needs.

But yeah, something went wrong with 2.0 right from the start.
 
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I've been surprised reading opinions that the story quality took a nosedive in 2.0 too. I know I personally have ongoing issues with it, but I thought the average population was still eating it up (or skipping/not reading or trying to understand it). I read a discussion yesterday that everybody was agreeing that SAnby's story was a huge missed potential. Meanwhile I thought I was the only one that felt that way. Hopefully these people are also putting that feedback in the surveys.

But yea the designs are becoming quite derivative. It especially chaps my ass because I really wanted the nun, so they ripped her apart and made some generic CN-censorship approved shorts designs instead.
 
I'm assuming these girls belong to the same faction and that's why they wear similar clothes. Right?

The Octopus girl and chinese mama MUST be related somehow or else this is just lazy.
 
Spyxos said:
ZZZ character design creativity got lost somewhere after 2.0

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That's what I man, what is this shit? All the same bottom style.
Looks like some fantasy anime world.
Compare to the 1.x characters, more grounded and looking more modern world.
I can't deal with this fantasy outfits, whole reason I only liked ZZZ. If they do the same design now as Genshin/Honkai etc then fuk off
 
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Astra, Sanby and Trigger. My first score was actually the best one something around 24k.
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I see. I've tried this team myself and barely got over 20k on this boss after like 3 tries so that score you've gotten is good all things considered.

That said, I hate how SAnby feels and plays so that's why I decided to use a different team there, lol.
 
Thick Thighs Save Lives said:
I see. I've tried this team myself and barely got over 20k on this boss after like 3 tries so that score you've gotten is good all things considered.

That said, I hate how SAnby feels and plays so that's why I decided to use a different team there, lol.
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It's amazing how well your Alice performs, even though Typhoon isn't even weak against physical damage.
 
Wonko_C said:
They split sexy nun into Ganyu wannabe (name) and splatoon reject (big hammer) actually.

Maybe HoYo is doing this character design repetition thing on purpose to make us buy better outfits for them when they launch.
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I think you might be onto something here! For example, I wasn't a fan of Yixuan's default outfit, so I immediately got her paid skin and have been using it on her ever since.
 
I personally was hoping that after we got Yuzuha/Alice swimwear, they finally decided that they didn't have to make CN-safe shorts on every character moving forward. Instead, they immediately went back to the censorshorts and doubled down on it...
 
Well, they sure need to find a way to sell us outfits somehow and making default ones kinda meh or bad sure is the way. They started with Yuzuha first and it worked, so there's no reason for them to not do it again. I've zero complaints about Lucia so I can't see myself buying any outfits for her ever, and no outfit will make me pull for octopus reject, it's just not gonna happen.
 
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Well well well, even with a few level 1 disks on both sides and shitty disks all around, I still finally got full clear of Shiyu Defense. Luckily this time there was no mandatory Fire or Ether stage screwing me over. Yuzuha + Jane + Vivian makes those doppleganger bosses so much more manageable.
 
Interesting CN survey from "WeChat", I think on the official HoYo account. First column is "do you like this character", second column is "how strong is this character", third column is how many total votes.

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Poor Grace and Pulchra. These line up mostly with my thoughts too, though I think the whole survey skewed too high on "strength" for a lot of characters.
 
Pejo said:
Interesting CN survey from "WeChat", I think on the official HoYo account. First column is "do you like this character", second column is "how strong is this character", third column is how many total votes.



Poor Grace and Pulchra. These line up mostly with my thoughts too, though I think the whole survey skewed too high on "strength" for a lot of characters.
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I would have thought Ellen was higher up in popularity. But she has also become a rarely used character.
 
Spyxos said:
I would have thought Ellen was higher up in popularity. But she has also become a rarely used character.
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Well she was 3rd place. Out of this many character's, that's seriously impressive despite everything else. She was only behind Miyabi and Shifu, arguably the most popular/strongest characters in the game.

I was glad to see (base) Anby up so high in popularity. And Jane top 10 too. I was most surprised to see Hugo that high, considering his banner was one of the lowest sales periods of the game and I never see anybody using him in any content.
 
Interesting infographic. Pulchra sitting at the bottom of the preference tier alongside the whole Belobog squad doesn't seem all that surprising, tbh. Overall the list seems fine.
 
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Now that I found out that SEED works with SAnby, I've completely turned my opinion on her around. I still wish she was mecha musume instead of that stupid skirted robot, but everything else sounds good.
 
Spyxos said:
Oh, right, we are getting 2.2. I thought that was the current patch. Oh well, a little bit later then. Still, it's a pretty drastic change.
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Yeah, I actually have a pen disc in slot 5 on Alice and some decent pen substat rolls, so I think she'll still do pretty well against these new bosses.

That said, it seems like hoyo is really trying to shill the new 2.3 rupture agents. They're using the same tactics as in HSR, where the "meta" shifts every 2-3 patches…
 
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Spyxos said:
Forget Hp inflation, welcome Def inflation.

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Thank fuck I dropped DA, don't have to worry about it anymore. SD though and new Critical Simulation mode (permanent or not, there's no info on that yet, but based on the UI it's some kinda roguelike mode which even has the same icons from LV) they're adding,... I don't like the sound of this cuz it is clearly tuned in favour of characters with DEF ingnore and high Pen values.
 
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Agent_4Seven said:
Thank fuck I dropped DA, don't have to worry about it anymore. SD though and new Critical Simulation mode (permanent or not, there's no info on that yet, but based on the UI it's some kinda roguelike mode which even has the same icons from LV) they're adding,... I don't like the sound of this cuz it is clearly tuned in favour of characters with DEF ingnore and high Pen values.
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Yixuan should hopefully be enough for that. But I will also get the Ether support.
 
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