AMD Radeon 9070XT review thread

M1987 said:
The AMD equivalent of RR is coming later this year,but I don't know if it will actually make a difference and close the gap
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I know but its first showing was very weak and they will have the same issue as with FSR4 - the longer they wait the more titles will have RR and not their "Redstone" upscaler.
It is also quite possible that RDNA4 won't be fast enough to run something similar to RR which means that they'll get this feature running only starting with RDNA5.

Von Hugh said:
If that comment was FUD, why are you replying with more FUD and not facts?
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Cause anyone who knows how to google instead of watching HUB's FUD know why this is FUD.
 
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dgrdsv said:
I know but its first showing was very weak and they will have the same issue as with FSR4 - the longer they wait the more titles will have RR and not their "Redstone" upscaler.
It is also quite possible that RDNA4 won't be fast enough to run something similar to RR which means that they'll get this feature running only starting with RDNA5.
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They actually don't need RR to be available for developers to support it. They just need developers to use the recently released FSR 3.1.4.
 
FireFly said:
They actually don't need RR to be available for developers to support it. They just need developers to use the recently released FSR 3.1.4.
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They do need developers to support it.
RR is more than a driver side plugin like FSR4 and even with FSR4 the model of "upgrading" games through drivers has been lacking in both speed and penetration.
They seem to do their own take on DirectSR after that has basically stalled due to nobody but AMD being interested in it. And it's not going too well.
I expect them to struggle with this till the next console gen where something akin to FSR4 will basically be the baseline for all games made for consoles.
 
Wolzard said:
AMD releases FidelityFX SDK 2.0, FSR 4 goes full open source

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-releases-fidelityfx-sdk-2-0-fsr-4-goes-full-open-source
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It was a mistake.

AMD has accidentally released full source code for FSR4, but then removed the entire project from Github. The new FidelityFX SDK 2.0 is now using pre-built DLLs and AMD will now require developers to use these DLLs:
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Use of pre-built, signed FidelityFX API DLLs is now required.

The AMD FidelityFX SDK 2.0 requires developers interact with the FidelityFX SDK using the amd_fidelityfx_loader.dll.
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So I took the DLLs for FSR 3.1.5 and 4.0.2 from the SDK and tried them in Horizon Forbidden West. I'm using optiscaler and it's working very well.
Image quality seems a bit better, a little bit more stable in quality mode.

The process is this:
Download the SDK from here:
gpuopen.com

AMD FidelityFX SDK 2.0 launches our neural rendering technologies for developers - AMD GPUOpen

Learn about the launchpad for our ML-based rendering technologies, inc. AMD FSR 4 and upcoming FSR Redstone features.
gpuopen.com gpuopen.com

Then find:
"amd_fidelityfx_upscaler_dx12.dll" and "amd_fidelityfx_loader_dx12.dll "

then rename

"amd_fidelityfx_upscaler_dx12.dll" to "amd_fidelityfx_dx12.dll"

"amd_fidelityfx_loader_dx12.dll" to "amdxcffx64.dll"

And finally put them in the folder with Optiscaler.

The amdxcffx64.dll is for FSR4. The md_fidelityfx_dx12.dll is for FSR 3.1.5

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Looking at prices, it was fine to get mine over msrp. I was resigned to the price being fake. Can't be sure that was the right decision but did it anyway.

I now have that disease where all the games I want to play don't justify the thing at all lol. I played Indiana jones looking for something to give it a workout. Fun game, though.
 
What resolution are you guys running your cards at?
I'm wondering if 1440 would be better than 4k power usage and FPS wise?

Also, do you cap your frame rates at all? My TV is 4k 120 but this obviously is a lot heavier and more power use - I've limited a few of my games using chill to 60-70 FPS and they are still really smooth and using a lot less power too.
I was previously capping it at 117 in Adrenaline but not sure if it's worth leaving it that high.
 
Shockwave_Fox said:
What resolution are you guys running your cards at?
I'm wondering if 1440 would be better than 4k power usage and FPS wise?

Also, do you cap your frame rates at all? My TV is 4k 120 but this obviously is a lot heavier and more power use - I've limited a few of my games using chill to 60-70 FPS and they are still really smooth and using a lot less power too.
I was previously capping it at 117 in Adrenaline but not sure if it's worth leaving it that high.
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is your tv freesync compatible? if yes, try 1440 at 90hz, if no try capping it at 60.
 
Shockwave_Fox said:
What resolution are you guys running your cards at?
I'm wondering if 1440 would be better than 4k power usage and FPS wise?

Also, do you cap your frame rates at all? My TV is 4k 120 but this obviously is a lot heavier and more power use - I've limited a few of my games using chill to 60-70 FPS and they are still really smooth and using a lot less power too.
I was previously capping it at 117 in Adrenaline but not sure if it's worth leaving it that high.
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As a single example, I'm currently playing MH:World at 1440p and I have limited to 144fps because 180 is a fairly substantial jump in power draw for the gain it offers.

I'll be judging others on a game by game basis
 
Soodanim said:
As a single example, I'm currently playing MH:World at 1440p and I have limited to 144fps because 180 is a fairly substantial jump in power draw for the gain it offers.

I'll be judging others on a game by game basis
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I'm capping my FPS too mostly 120 or 90fps, sometimes 75FPS is still pretty responsive. That depends on power draw or if I can inject FSR 4 with OptiScaler and lower power draw, I do that also.
 
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Shockwave_Fox said:
How do you cap FPS? I the adrenaline software globally or using chill on a game by game basis?

Or using rivatuner?
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MangoHud but I'm mostly on Linux tinkering through Proton and injecting FSR4 with Wine.

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I can set there caps for 120, 90, 75 FPS and I change them with Shift + F1, I can also set Vsync to Early or Late. Late has lower latency but can have spikes on frames graph, Early typically introduces a bit of latency but the graph is extra smooth, like zero spikes.

Whatever games I'm playing on Windows though I use AMD Adrenalin FPS cap globally.
 
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Anyone know how to use this in poe2 ?
I dont wanna use optiscaler

Edit: i think the fsr Version that poe uses is to old for a swap to work …
 
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BeardSpike said:
MangoHud but I'm mostly on Linux tinkering through Proton and injecting FSR4 with Wine.

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I can set there caps for 120, 90, 75 FPS and I change them with Shift + F1, I can also set Vsync to Early or Late. Late has lower latency but can have spikes on frames graph, Early typically introduces a bit of latency but the graph is extra smooth, like zero spikes.

Whatever games I'm playing on Windows though I use AMD Adrenalin FPS cap globally.
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I have a cap globally in Adrenaline but then limit it in games where I can.

I've been using Chill in Adrenaline as well and it seems to work well so far - only in games where there's no in-game limit option.

Is vsync set in Adrenaline or in game? Or both?
This is one I'm trying to get my head around at the moment.

In game vsync on or off?
Adrenaline wait for vsync always on or wait for game?
Adrenaline enhanced sync on or off?

I have freesync always on for vrr and cap 3 below TVs max, so 117.
 
Akuji said:
Anyone know how to use this in poe2 ?
I dont wanna use optiscaler

Edit: i think the fsr Version that poe uses is to old for a swap to work …
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It only supports FSR2, so it can't be swapped.
The only way is to use Optiscaler. In the guru3d forums, there are 2 users saying they are playing with Optiscaler and DLSS inputs, and it works fine. And no problem with bans.
 
Shockwave_Fox said:
I have a cap globally in Adrenaline but then limit it in games where I can.

I've been using Chill in Adrenaline as well and it seems to work well so far - only in games where there's no in-game limit option.

Is vsync set in Adrenaline or in game? Or both?
This is one I'm trying to get my head around at the moment.

In game vsync on or off?
Adrenaline wait for vsync always on or wait for game?
Adrenaline enhanced sync on or off?

I have freesync always on for vrr and cap 3 below TVs max, so 117.
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Vsync off in video games, Enhanced Sync on in Adrenaline, Framerate Target Control -> 120fps (or basically any other FPS I want), FSR4 on, Anti-Lag on, Anti-Alisasing Override -> Supersampling x8EQ, Anisitropic Filtering x16, Texture Quality -> High - that is my setup on Windows. Although the AA and AF settings I think are only used for an older games.

Also I don't use VRR in Windows settings (Screen settings), I turn Adaptive Sync Compatible inside Adrenalin drivers (Settings -> Display -> Adaptive Sync Compatible) - works better for my monitor this way on Windows. Otherwise I have some Chromatic Aberration like effects which is meh on my Mini Led Monitor when I use HDR, but If I use VRR through Adrenalin Drivers it is all good lmao. Enhanced Sync turns off options "Always on" and "Wait for game" Vsync options.

Oddly enough, on Linux side of things I just turn VRR in Screen settings and HDR and it works...

I have tried Chill but in MP games but I got like stutters when it changed FPS, so I decided to just cap it at 120fps.
 
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BeardSpike said:
Vsync off in video games, Enhanced Sync on in Adrenaline, Framerate Target Control -> 120fps (or basically any other FPS I want), FSR4 on, Anti-Lag on, Anti-Alisasing Override -> Supersampling x8EQ, Anisitropic Filtering x16, Texture Quality -> High - that is my setup on Windows. Although the AA and AF settings I think are only used for an older games.

Also I don't use VRR in Windows settings (Screen settings), I turn Adaptive Sync Compatible inside Adrenalin drivers (Settings -> Display -> Adaptive Sync Compatible) - works better for my monitor this way on Windows. Otherwise I have some Chromatic Aberration like effects which is meh on my Mini Led Monitor when I use HDR, but If I use VRR through Adrenalin Drivers it is all good lmao. Enhanced Sync turns off options "Always on" and "Wait for game" Vsync options.

Oddly enough, on Linux side of things I just turn VRR in Screen settings and HDR and it works...

I have tried Chill but in MP games but I got like stutters when it changed FPS, so I decided to just cap it at 120fps.
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Interesting thanks for sharing those settings.

I'm only running FSR4 and frame rate limit of 120fps - turning enhanced sync off today has actually made my games feel smoother along with vsync on in the games.
Enhanced sync seemed to be giving some small juddery effects.

I'm using chill only in certain games where there's no in game limiter, I set min and max to the same number lol.
 

Highlights
New Game Support
Borderlands® 4
Hell Is Us
New Game Support for AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution 4 (FSR 4)
FSR 4 can be enabled for most games that support FSR 3.1 with DirectX® 12.
Fixed Issues and Improvements
Corruption may appear while playing Mafia: The Old Country on Radeon™ RX 6600 series graphics products.
Intermittent application crash or driver timeout may be observed while playing WUCHANG: Fallen Feathers with FSR 4 enabled on Radeon™ RX 9000 series graphics products.
Playstation® VR controllers are not detected while playing SteamVR™.
Intermittent application crash or driver timeout may be observed while playing Monster Hunter Wilds with Ray Tracing enabled and recording with AMD Software on Radeon™ RX 7600, 7700, and 7800 series graphics products.
Known Issues
Intermittent application crash may be observed while playing The Last of Us Part II on Radeon™ RX 7900 series graphics products.
Intermittent application crash may be observed while playing Call of Duty®: Black Ops 6 on Radeon™ RX 9000 series graphics products.
Intermittent application crash may be observed while playing NBA 2K25 in MyCareer mode on Radeon™ RX 9070 series graphics products. AMD is actively working on a resolution to be released as soon as possible.
Intermittent application crash may be observed while playing FBC: Firebreak on some AMD Ryzen™ processors such as the Ryzen™ AI 300 series and the Ryzen™ 7000 series.
Stutter may be observed while playing games with some VR headsets at 80Hz or 90Hz refresh rate on some AMD Radeon™ Graphics Products such as the Radeon™ RX 7000 series. Users experiencing this issue are recommended to change the refresh rate as a temporary workaround.
Corruption (missing scan travel lines) may be observed while playing GTFO™ on Radeon™ RX 7000 series graphics products.
Intermittent application crash or driver timeout may be observed while loading a saved game in Cyberpunk 2077 with Path Tracing enabled.
 
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winjer said:

Highlights
New Game Support
Borderlands® 4
Hell Is Us
New Game Support for AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution 4 (FSR 4)
FSR 4 can be enabled for most games that support FSR 3.1 with DirectX® 12.
Fixed Issues and Improvements
Corruption may appear while playing Mafia: The Old Country on Radeon™ RX 6600 series graphics products.
Intermittent application crash or driver timeout may be observed while playing WUCHANG: Fallen Feathers with FSR 4 enabled on Radeon™ RX 9000 series graphics products.
Playstation® VR controllers are not detected while playing SteamVR™.
Intermittent application crash or driver timeout may be observed while playing Monster Hunter Wilds with Ray Tracing enabled and recording with AMD Software on Radeon™ RX 7600, 7700, and 7800 series graphics products.
Known Issues
Intermittent application crash may be observed while playing The Last of Us Part II on Radeon™ RX 7900 series graphics products.
Intermittent application crash may be observed while playing Call of Duty®: Black Ops 6 on Radeon™ RX 9000 series graphics products.
Intermittent application crash may be observed while playing NBA 2K25 in MyCareer mode on Radeon™ RX 9070 series graphics products. AMD is actively working on a resolution to be released as soon as possible.
Intermittent application crash may be observed while playing FBC: Firebreak on some AMD Ryzen™ processors such as the Ryzen™ AI 300 series and the Ryzen™ 7000 series.
Stutter may be observed while playing games with some VR headsets at 80Hz or 90Hz refresh rate on some AMD Radeon™ Graphics Products such as the Radeon™ RX 7000 series. Users experiencing this issue are recommended to change the refresh rate as a temporary workaround.
Corruption (missing scan travel lines) may be observed while playing GTFO™ on Radeon™ RX 7000 series graphics products.
Intermittent application crash or driver timeout may be observed while loading a saved game in Cyberpunk 2077 with Path Tracing enabled.
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FSR4 on virtually all FSR3.1 games is huge.
 

Highlights

  • Expanded AgilitySDK Support
    • AMD Radeon™ RX 7000 and 9000 series graphics products will support:
      • Tiled Resource Tier 4
      • Fence Barriers
      • AppSpecificDriverState
      • Shader Execution Reordering ("MaybeReorderThreads" does not move threads)
  • Only AMD Radeon™ RX 7000 series graphics products will support:
    • Video Encoding Update to DDI 112 with the following features:
      • Video encode subregion (e.g slice/tile) notifications
      • Video encode GPU texture input QP map
      • Video encode Dirty map full frame skip
      • Video encode GPU texture/CPU buffer motion vector hints
    • AppSpecificDriverState + RecreateAtGPUVA
  • Only AMD Radeon™ RX 9000 series graphics products will support:
    • Cooperative Vectors 1.0
 
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