Mario Kart World VS Sonic Racing Cross World
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CuteFaceJay
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Mario Kart
Lets be honest they really put off a bunch of folks to the point where online session were getting filled with bots. They need to start adding more tracks or some kind of content.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I got Mario Kart Mid with my Switch 2 and haven't even played it yet
MacReady13
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It's mid without you playing it?
LordOcidax
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Finally played Sonic Cross World… Can i vote again for MK World?
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
I see a lot of animosity towards MKW around. I mean, Nintendo tries something different for once and people are up in arms… The game is good, it's just that MK8 was unquestionably the best the series ever got and following that one up was very hard to do.
Sonic looks fun, but uninspiring. I'm sure it will be good, but the genre is at an evolutionary dead end and has been for a while. Kart racing lives and dies by controls and track design, the rest is eye candy. And yeah, deal with it: it's a genre for normies and casuals. Nobody is hosting home competitive splitscreen kart racing parties, and the few who care to get really good soon outclass the others so much that it isn't fun anymore. These are party games at their core. Which is why, if you hadn't noticed, they're all cutesy mascot games.
I may buy Sonic Racing further down the line, so I hope it plays well and reviews well. Which seems to be the case, actually. I only wonder how many scores were inflated a bit just to spite MKW.
Sonic looks fun, but uninspiring. I'm sure it will be good, but the genre is at an evolutionary dead end and has been for a while. Kart racing lives and dies by controls and track design, the rest is eye candy. And yeah, deal with it: it's a genre for normies and casuals. Nobody is hosting home competitive splitscreen kart racing parties, and the few who care to get really good soon outclass the others so much that it isn't fun anymore. These are party games at their core. Which is why, if you hadn't noticed, they're all cutesy mascot games.
I may buy Sonic Racing further down the line, so I hope it plays well and reviews well. Which seems to be the case, actually. I only wonder how many scores were inflated a bit just to spite MKW.
Team Andromeda
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Not played Mario Kart World, but Cross Worlds is utterly brilliant
Power Pro
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I still think it was a dumb mistake to not just make Mario Kart into a multi-franchise series. Don't call it something stupid like super smash kart, but Mario Kart - subtitle that implies a clashing of worlds would still be fun. Mario Kart World felt like the most boring, and safe Mario Kart, especially after how great MK8D was.
Fbh
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Yeah specially with the cool Zelda DLC in MK8, having some sort of "Nintendo Kart" felt like a good next evolution.
I do sort of feel the same about this game though, I'd be more interested if they had made a proper Sega racer with characters and tracks from a variety of Sega franchises, instead of making it primarily Sonic themed with guest characters (many of them as paid DLC).
Jinzo Prime
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It's crazy to me that after MK8 had Link and Animal Crossing, MKW has no non-Mario characters. I feel like they might have been held back for paid DLC. Sega's marketing team and game designers did a great job here.
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Some people don't get it.
Of course, MKW will still have stellar sales (Nintendo marketed the franchise for decades, family, Friends will keep buying it, plus...it's bundled with the console)
But... a looooooot of Nintendo fans don't like it like they loved MK8.
They hate intermissions, it's known, just listen to them.
(It's a Nintendo fan showing the rage among Nintendogs)
Yeah, MKW will sell a looot but opened a window for challengers. Many fans, fans within the press admit it: it's boring...and they want to fill the void.
Lucky rivals...
Of course, MKW will still have stellar sales (Nintendo marketed the franchise for decades, family, Friends will keep buying it, plus...it's bundled with the console)
But... a looooooot of Nintendo fans don't like it like they loved MK8.
They hate intermissions, it's known, just listen to them.
(It's a Nintendo fan showing the rage among Nintendogs)
Yeah, MKW will sell a looot but opened a window for challengers. Many fans, fans within the press admit it: it's boring...and they want to fill the void.
Lucky rivals...
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cinnamonandgravy
Gold Member
got the demo on switch2
holy crap the image quality is garbage.
holy crap the image quality is garbage.
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
It's the Switch 1 version
MacReady13
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Having sunk a few solid hours into Sonic Racing Crossworlds and playiong Mario Kart World I think it is quite easy for me to say that Sonic (obviously) looks far better (I am playing it on PC) yet for the 2 most important things in a racing game- controls and track design, well, Mario Kart World smashes Sonic Racing Crossworlds quite easily. Mario Kart is unparalleled in controls, especially when it comes to drifting. And I quite enjoy Crossworlds but World kills it.
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
Will Sega co-develop the new Ecco game with their Sapporo Studio?
Ecco in Crossworlds?
Alexios
Oh no...
don't tell me, you're that kind of hybrid Sega-Nintendo fans triggered for little jokes on the fat ugly plumber 
. It's okay saying that open worlds doesn't work for every genre
. And yeah, a lot of gamers are simply not into that new MKW formula.
Yes, MKW will still break the rivals in sales but yes many people (Nintendo fans included) find a better energy in a less polished Crossworlds (no shit, MKW was being developed even before Crossworlds...and Team Sonic Racing!!!)
Between you and me,
it's is not the first time in history that Nintendo delivers a more polished product, they always took more time to produce games.(remember Daytona on the Saturn) We didn't like Sega for that.
It was for the energy.
They had energy during the Dreamcast Era.
Good news, they have that energy back due to Shuji Utsumi (no shit, he was also behind Dreamcast's amazing lineup)
New Virtua Fighter : GO BIG OR GO HOME (new slogan from the producer), new Alien Isolation, new Crazy Taxi, new Jet Set Radio and a new Sonic Racing to provoke Mario. (Crossworlds praised MKW's update and said it was good for both to improve their games... he has a good vibe, spirit)
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
What's the Switch 2 and PS5 versions like? Are there any differences?
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
There is no Switch 2 version yet. You're just playing Switch 1 version on your Switch 2...it's an ugly 30FPS low setting mess.
Wait for the upgrade
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
『ソニックレーシング クロスワールド』はセガの「秘伝のタレ」がゲームデザインに注ぎ込まれたゲームだった。『セガラリー』から『頭文字DAC』まで、受け継がれる血脈 - AUTOMATON
『ソニックレーシング クロスワールド』の開発者に、アーケードゲームから本作に受け継がれた歴史についてうかがった。
automaton-media.com
The Initial D team did a special sauce for the gameplay.
They used Sega Rally as a base and mixed it with Outrun elements.
Some staff have rythm game background, some other worked under Sasaki (Mister Sega Rally), Arai (Initial D) or even Yu Suzuki at AM Plus programming the wacky Sega Race TV.
All these elements explain the rythm, the madness of Sonic Racing Crossworlds.
It takes time to feel that special flavor and depth...
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Miles708
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『ソニックレーシング クロスワールド』はセガの「秘伝のタレ」がゲームデザインに注ぎ込まれたゲームだった。『セガラリー』から『頭文字DAC』まで、受け継がれる血脈 - AUTOMATON
『ソニックレーシング クロスワールド』の開発者に、アーケードゲームから本作に受け継がれた歴史についてうかがった。
The Initial D team did a special sauce for the gameplay.
They used Sega Rally as a base and mixed it with Outrun elements.
Some staff have rythm game background, some other worked under Sasaki (Mister Sega Rally), Arai (Initial D) or even Yu Suzuki at AM Plus programming the wacky Sega Race TV.
All these elements explain the rythm, the madness of Sonic Racing Crossworlds.
It takes time to feel that special flavor and depth...
If the demo is not a particularly old build compared to the full game, i certainly did not feel that secret sauce in the gameplay and i love Sega arcade racers.
The game plays good enough mind you but that's surely not up to the other titles cited, by quite a long shot.
Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
The thing is it's their first kart racer while Transformed had 3 episodes to perfect its gameplay... Mario Kart had a shitload of sequels and MKW had been developed in 8 years... (X2 Crossworlds)
A kart racer is more than the handling (Transformed has great feels but the items were pretty lackluster... On the other hand, Crossworld has a great gadget system)
That's true Initial D team didn't deliver its best handlings but they improved their game after each update, it's their DNA (listening, improving)
Crossworlds is already a very good game but it could be fantastic if Sega keeps updating/improving it and add new content very often.
Neff
Member
These are the two games (along with MK8 obviously) which leap to the front of my mind while playing Crossworlds, so hearing Sega devs outright name them isn't surprising.
It feels old and new in all the best ways.
playbignbox
Member
I downloaded the demo of this Sonic game to compare it to Mario Kart World, since I saw some people praising it, and I can't understand how you can put the two in the same sentence lol
Mario Kart World is so much better that it's not even worth comparing.
Mario Kart World is so much better that it's not even worth comparing.
Vaquilla
Member
Sonic Racing has topped 1 million sold in 4 weeks: https://nintendoeverything.com/soni...-one-million-copies-sold-player-stats-shared/
For comparison, Mario Kart World sold 5.6 million in about the same timeframe.
For comparison, Mario Kart World sold 5.6 million in about the same timeframe.
Seems about right for Sonic. Which game is better than the other is probably more subjective, but only people truly high on copium/really mad about Switch 2/the more deluded Sonic fans could possibly have believed that Sonic would've provided proper sales competition. Mario Kart is simply in its own league in that sense.
Honestly, I think this is pretty good considering Team Sonic Racing debuted at 40 bucks and sold about that much in its first year including discounts. This is 70/90 USD with no discounts so far.
MKW is essentially just dependent on how many Switch 2's they can shove out the door, so I would say that tracks.
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Fat Frog
I advertised for Google Stadia
It's great tbh. Team Sonic Racing finished at 3.5 million units sold even with a pathetic start, no post launch content...
Crossworlds will be minimum at 5 million units (which still is laughable compared to Mario Kart)
Nonetheless, with great additional content, smart new guests, collabs, patches, it could reach 10 million and be a real player for years to come.
People downplayed CTR Nitro Fueled but 10 million is great. Far from MK indeed but Crash was semi dormant for years and Activision didn't invest as much as Nintendo in marketing...
Sonic and Crash can do so much more if they get serious.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
I can't take youtubers seriously who do these kinds of videos and need to insert short snippets of themselves talking in them. It just feels like they want to be famous or market their face. It'd bother me as much if Critical Drinker did it. I like Nerdrotic, but he also does this stupid stuff. Just put relevant clips there and save yourselves for the live videos, people!
Cyberpunkd
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TBH I would guess vast majority of people watch a given YouTuber because of his persona, not especially the content. Having said that the guy looks mid af and is not a scantily clad woman, so I don't see that strategy working out for him.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
You are on to something there. With RedLetterMedia I watch their stuff only because of the overwhelming sex appeal of Rich Evans.
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memoryman3
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You can now vote for which one deserves racing or family game of the year.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Ogbert
Member
Hating on Mario Kart is what all the cool kids do.
As you suggest, the driving in Sonic is pitiful in comparison.
DeVeAn
Member
MK World bored me to tears. Sonic racing way more fun. Music, characters and drifting way more interesting. Open world was a scam in MKW.
ShadyAcshuns
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Don't bring that bullshit to non-awards threads.
Lokaum D+
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But that dont metter to you, why are you enganging and gate keeping ?
Tell the truth, are you but hurt cause you favorite game didnt get a nominee for goty right ?