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“What The Bleep Do We Know?” (Come on in, quantum physics junkies)

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AirBrian

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I saw this documentary in an independent film theater last weekend, and it was very interesting. If you have even the least interest in quantum physics or existentialism, I highly recommend it. Very well done with a mix of humor, interviews, music, and science.

http://www.whatthebleep.com/

One of the most intriguing subjects in the movie was the "Messages from Water" discussion.

Water…

The Earth is largely made up of it.
As are we…

And yet about it we know significantly little.

Until the groundbreaking work of a pioneer Japanese researcher whose astonishing discovery about water, documented photographically, changed most of what we didn't know…and led to a new consciousness of Earth's most precious resource.

Dr. Masaru Emoto was born in Japan and is a graduate of the Yokohama Municipal University and the Open International University as a Doctor of Alternative Medicine. His photographs were first featured in his self-published books Messages from Water 1 and 2. The Hidden Messages in Water was first published in Japan, with over 400,000 copies sold internationally.

What has put Dr. Emoto at the forefront of the study of water is his proof that thoughts and feelings affect physical reality. By producing different focused intentions through written and spoken words and music and literally presenting it to the same water samples, the water appears to "change its expression".

Essentially, Dr. Emoto captured water's 'expressions.' He developed a technique using a very powerful microscope in a very cold room along with high-speed photography, to photograph newly formed crystals of frozen water samples. Not all water samples crystallize however. Water samples from extremely polluted rivers directly seem to express the 'state' the water is in.

Dr. Masaru Emoto discovered that crystals formed in frozen water reveal changes when specific, concentrated thoughts are directed toward them. He found that water from clear springs and water that has been exposed to loving words shows brilliant, complex, and colorful snowflake patterns. In contrast, polluted water, or water exposed to negative thoughts, forms incomplete, asymmetrical patterns with dull colors.

The implications of this research create a new awareness of how we can positively impact the earth and our personal health. The success of his books outside Japan has been remarkable. Dr. Emoto has been called to lecture around the world as a result and has conducted live experiments both in Japan and Europe as well as in the US to show how indeed our thoughts, attitudes, and emotions as humans deeply impact the environment.

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Mozart symphony

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You make me sick

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Love and gratitude

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Heavy metal music
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
I'm confused - does pure water that has "negativity" directed toward it show the same behaviour as polluted water (or polluted water with negativity directed at it)?
 

AirBrian

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That's what I got from it.

He found that water from clear springs and water that has been exposed to loving words shows brilliant, complex, and colorful snowflake patterns. In contrast, polluted water, or water exposed to negative thoughts, forms incomplete, asymmetrical patterns with dull colors.
Much more info here:

http://www.hado.net/
 

3phemeral

Member
Hrm.. it says negative thoughts and positive thoughts... how can one determine these as quantifiable variables? I see the examples are using music as modifyers, but what does he mean by positive/negative 'thoughts'?
 

AirBrian

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In the experiment they put the words on paper, and then stuck it to the bottle of water. I'm assuming people would read the paper and think the appropriate thoughts, but I'm not sure exactly how it was done and what the setting was.

Here's a picture that shows the bottle:

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"Angel" on the left and "Demon" on the right.
 

TheQueen'sOwn

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So would these words.. er the emotions tied to the words.. would they affect the water inside a human being? Has he done anyting pertaining to how this would affect a human being (or has he done more: how our emotions affect the water)?
 

way more

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This person wrote "happy" on a bottle of water and the molecules had smiley faces. Lets not let words ruin this moment in stupidity

This is not quantum physics, this is hack work.

Not to mention the entire film was produced by Ramtha's School of Enlightenment and few of the 'experts' had a degree in physics. It was just a propoganda piece for Ramtha, think of if the Scientologist did this.


For more half-truths visit.
http://www.ramtha.com/
 

way more

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In the movie they also mentioned a guy who along with 100 others channelled positive energy into Washington, D.C. He claimed the murder rate fell by at least 20% but he really just lied about it.
 

Minotauro

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From one of Roger Ebert's recent Movie Answer Man articles:

Q. While the film "What the #$*! Do We Know!?" parades itself as a tell-all about quantum physics, it turns out that it's actually a 111-minute infomercial for ... that's right, the Ramtha School of Enlightenment. In fact, the three filmmakers, [William] Arntz, [Betsy] Chasse and [Mark] Vicente, are all devotees of Ramtha.

There's little to no accurate science in the film, and, as a physicist pointed out recently in your Answer Man column, the individuals who are quoted are pretty far from qualified experts on the field of quantum mechanics. Case in point: One of the persons expounding on causality and quantum physics (Dispenza) is a chiropractor. The film's sole purpose appears to be to promote the ideology of the Ramtha School of Enlightenment. A quick browse through their Web site will clearly demonstrate that the film's pseudoscientific nonsense comes straight from the teachings of the RSE.

Rubin Safaya, Edina, Minn.

A. Several other readers also unmasked the documentary as a hoax. I knew there had to be something fishy when the expert who made the most sense was channeling a 35,000-year-old seer from Atlantis.
 
wow. that ramtha site is super-hokey BUT I CAN'T DENY that the sparkles and midi made me happy in a final fantasy kind of way. so happy am i that i peed love in the toilet.
 
This film has been playing at the theater (Uptown) near my girlfriend's apartment in Seattle for close to six months now. My entire family has seen it, and liked it a lot, but we've yet to do so.
 

way more

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I really didn't like this movie and I believe its for the 35+ crowd. The sets are pretty crappy (plywood), it's very wonky, and extremely feminist. It's like three movies jammed into one without much thought. I've seen better one hour docs on discovery and discovery science which had me more involved with the characters.
 
My coworkers are shitting bricks for this movie, so I sent the Ramtha link around to 'em. I called it as New Age-y crap when they told me about it, but they said my negative quanta were making their cheap Mexican food taste bad, so I shut up. Right now I'm focusing my positive thinking on making my coffee smile but this tar-like crap ain't lookin' drinkable yet.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Drinky,

Are you also into New-Age science for pure mocking purposes? I'm very much looking forward to the "end of the world" according to the Mayan calendar.
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
oh man, just watched the "inside the ramtha school" video.

id lvoe to go to this place just to see all the retards looking for their cards.
 
I saw this. The parts with the deaf girl are absolutely terrible.

In fact, I thought the entire movie was terrible. It has some interesting ideas, but other than that, it's terrible.
 

Loki

Count of Concision
levious said:
Drinky,

Are you also into New-Age science for pure mocking purposes?

Dude, what isn't Doug into purely to mock it? ;) :D


Heh, the funniest part for me was the part where AirBrain explained that they wrote the words down on paper and put it in the water. I mean, I could almost sorta kinda entertain some sort of telekinesis mechanism where a person would direct their thought "energy" at a glass of water (and by "entertain", I mean to the same degree as I can psychics, which is not much at all :p)-- but apparently the universal solvent is literate, too. It never ceases to amaze-- H2O: nature's perfect miracle. :D
 

AirBrian

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Loki said:
Heh, the funniest part for me was the part where AirBrain explained that they wrote the words down on paper and put it in the water.
:(

BTW, they didn't put the paper in the water, they put it around the bottle for people to read. :)
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
I remember a TLC show where they showed a researcher working on techniques to make a woman cum from another room. There's some hope for New Age science.
 

Loki

Count of Concision
AirBrian said:
:(

BTW, they didn't put the paper in the water, they put it around the bottle for people to read. :)

Doh! I'm always reading your name as "AirBrain"-- "Air Brian" sounds so...Xtreme Sports. :D Sorry. :)

For some reason, I read this:

In the experiment they put the words on paper, and then stuck it to the bottle of water

...as "stuck it INTO the bottle of water" (which is a more common action than sticking something to the side of a bottle/glass of water; yes, I have already begun rationalizing :p). I didn't read the sentence after that or I would have realized my error. So apparently-- in a shocking turn of events-- water is literate, but I'm not. :D


Loki = owned :p
 
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