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‘Japanese’ historian who blasted AC: Shadows turns out to be a white guy
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Masterofchapter
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Racist lol
rabbity-thing
Member
I don't think, for a second, that a Japanese historian needs to be Japanese, but I definitely think that a non-Japanese Japanese historian worth their salt would never pretend to be a Japanese person. That's some yellow-face nonsense right there.
Snowdonhoffen
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It's even funnier when you consider the fact Ubisoft has been adding fictional characters (and even alien-like people, like the Isu) to historical events/periods since the beginning of the franchise and now, all of the sudden, people complain when a fictional character based on a legend is added to the game lol
CherryFalls
Banned
He's trans racial
Will that impact sales? Damn, Ubisoft is cursed, there is always something fishy about Ubisoft content.
feynoob
Banned
Elon changed the game now on Twitter.
Now you get guys like this and grumpzy guy spewing controversial shit to gain outrage and clicks. This getting paid by Twitter.
It also works perfectly for tiktok, Instagram and YouTube. Make a rage baited videos and you will gain a lot of interaction. Don't really care about facts or fall out. People will do that for you.
TerribleAtThisGame
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Relevant tweet
Bring Back Scalebound
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I'm still baffled that this controversy is even a thing, when the Assassin's Creed games, even when they had historical figures in them, always did their own thing with these figures, and the historical era these games took place in. Mixing stuff from Sci-Fi into them even.
I have no idea who goes to AC for historical accuracy.
And I have no idea how THIS is not okay, but Nioh is.
I'm still waiting for people to just stop being pussies, and admit that their issues with this game, is that they don't want no "darkies" in their Japanese setting. They are fine with "brighties" though. But not them "darkies".
I don't like Ubisoft, and I don't care for their attempt at diversity, because I know what they put out in past, and the things they SAID, that were very far from "woke".
It's dishonest.
I'm not defending this game, I won't play it. Is just boring to see verbose people not say the words "I don't like black people".
I have no idea who goes to AC for historical accuracy.
And I have no idea how THIS is not okay, but Nioh is.
I'm still waiting for people to just stop being pussies, and admit that their issues with this game, is that they don't want no "darkies" in their Japanese setting. They are fine with "brighties" though. But not them "darkies".
I don't like Ubisoft, and I don't care for their attempt at diversity, because I know what they put out in past, and the things they SAID, that were very far from "woke".
It's dishonest.
I'm not defending this game, I won't play it. Is just boring to see verbose people not say the words "I don't like black people".
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Damn, first Midori and now this dude. Must be a fetish.
NGL she had that whole thing down pat. Best actress of the century.
Yeah at this point that is basically the part they're too scared to come right out and say. What's funny is that, AFAIK, SBI isn't even involved with this game.
I do think there not being a Japanese male samurai protagonist is suspect, NGL there. Considering the setting and whatnot, even if AC games are in no way anywhere near 100% historically accurate (yet somehow that only matters now because "reasons"). But the argument from people against Shadows quickly moved from that (which could've been productive) to the typical racist & sexist stuff (which invites nothing but maliciousness and diminishing support).
It always happens like that, too. As BS and lolworthy SBI is, at least they managed to make their stupidity a business directly within the games industry. The people against that type can't even mobilize or be productive enough to make their agenda a business that could be doing something directly in the industry.
Which is hilarious, considering how many avenues exist these days to make & publish your own games.
NGL she had that whole thing down pat. Best actress of the century.
Yeah at this point that is basically the part they're too scared to come right out and say. What's funny is that, AFAIK, SBI isn't even involved with this game.
I do think there not being a Japanese male samurai protagonist is suspect, NGL there. Considering the setting and whatnot, even if AC games are in no way anywhere near 100% historically accurate (yet somehow that only matters now because "reasons"). But the argument from people against Shadows quickly moved from that (which could've been productive) to the typical racist & sexist stuff (which invites nothing but maliciousness and diminishing support).
It always happens like that, too. As BS and lolworthy SBI is, at least they managed to make their stupidity a business directly within the games industry. The people against that type can't even mobilize or be productive enough to make their agenda a business that could be doing something directly in the industry.
Which is hilarious, considering how many avenues exist these days to make & publish your own games.
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butane bob
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You don't have to be born in a specific country to be a historian of that country.
What's next, you are all going to get mad at people learning foreign languages too? Or get mad at people who cook food from other countries?
What's next, you are all going to get mad at people learning foreign languages too? Or get mad at people who cook food from other countries?
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Rudius
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It was going to shit from the time of Odyssey. And let not pretend this next game will be good.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Am I too old?
WTF is LARPing?
WTF is LARPing?
feynoob
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Pretending to be something that you are not.
Think of it like MS using their employees to praise themselves in social media. Or Disney promoting their products.
Neon Xenon
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Twitter is such a fucking cancerous cesspool of a website. I'm so sick of nearly every obnoxious part of "culture" revolving around that shithole in some form.
Twice? What's the second instance of this?
Twice? What's the second instance of this?
DeadOblivion78
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Midori
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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The whole Midori thing that happened last week.
Leaker Midori's Identity Leaked - Alt of MysticDistance (?)
I have no idea who MysticDistance is. But it's funny to see that it was a dude running what many thought was a Japanese woman's account. Full archive of the tweet thread
bender
What time is it?
Varteras
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These guys remind me of the good old VGChartz days on those forums. Had a guy on there who was a PlayStation fanboy. He had everyone convinced he was a developer. Would never actually say what he worked on. Inevitably, he couldn't help himself. Said he worked for FromSoft. That he moved to Japan. Married a Japanese woman. Had three kids. Now he was making his own studio called Martian Extreme Gaming. A while later he had to come clean when he told someone what his name was, forgetting that he had claimed to work for FromSoft as a dev. His name appeared in none of the credits. He admitted he wasn't a dev. Had never been to Japan. Did not have his own family. In fact, he revealed he was actually just a basement dweller living with his grandma. He confided this to someone he thought wouldn't tell everyone. As soon as that got out, he immediately switched to being an Xbox fanboy when the PlayStation fans he had been lying to turned on him. Mental illness takes many forms.
LectureMaster
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mayham2199
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Yea this is what they have been doing for a long time. They take real people from historical events and change them. I don't get how this was the one that got people all angry.
diffusionx
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At least he is a real person unlike the historian Eurogamer made up to shit on KCD.
SBI is just one diversity consultant of many.
SBI is just one diversity consultant of many.
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FIREKNIGHT2029
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Hilarious but expected 
ReyBrujo
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lol, getting caught because he replied to a Japanese ero bot. I get like 4 or 5 of those bots hitting me because I RT stuff about Japanese idols.
The Cockatrice
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And this is why nobody takes criticism regarding games pandering/woke stuff when we have these kind of idiots in our camp or like that idiot Grummz.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
As a history scholar, I'd kind of agree, although it does make it a hell of a lot easier.
Being a historian and an expert in your chosen period/nation means more than reading some historical documents. You'd also need to travel on location, visit the battlefields, castles, churches. Dig deep into liabries and archives and look at very obscure sources that aren't online and then forensically analyse every part of them. Who wrote them, why, when etc. What was purpose of said document? Was the author biased etc which then normally leads you another rabbit hole of sources and the process starts again.
So yeah, very different to say, spending 30 minutes a day on Duolingo or cooking pasta.
rubenburgt
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What's the problem?
It's 2024. He can identify himself as however he wants, right?
I identify myself as not interested.
It's 2024. He can identify himself as however he wants, right?
I identify myself as not interested.
Topher
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feynoob
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He is banking on controversial topics for twitter views.
You are an interesting person. our internet degenerate bond makes us strong
feynoob
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