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1 in 4 American women on psychiatric medication

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We Americans really like to pop pills. The Associated Press has just reported that we're increasingly strung out on prescription opioids, with sales ballooning from 2000 to 2010. In some parts of the US, receipts for oxycodone-based products – such as OxyContin, Percoset, and Percodan – surged sixteenfold; hydrocodone-based products such as Vicodin continue to gain solid ground in Appalachia and Middle America.

Indeed, insatiable demand for "hillbilly heroin" – sometimes doled out by doctors who want to legitimately treat pain, sometimes by physicians who want simply to shut up their patients – has prompted pharmacy robberies, and much worse. In fact, so many people have died from medication overdoses of late that they come to exceed car crashes as the US's top cause of accidental death – a first since the government started tabulating such data in 1979, according to the LA Times. This equates to "more deaths than heroin and cocaine combined".

Meanwhile, scripts for benzodiazepines – the class of anti-anxiety drugs including Xanax, Valium, Ativan, and Klonopin – have gone up 17% since 2006 to 94m annually, New York magazine notes. Generic Xanax, which goes by the name alprazolam, has become 23% more popular in that same timeframe "making it the most prescribed psycho-pharmaceutical drug and the 11th-most prescribed overall, with 46m prescriptions written in 2010".

Let's also not forget that one in four American women is on psychiatric medication. That's right – 25% of US women undergo chemical treatment for depression, anxiety, ADHD or another mental disorder. While it's clear that the US has a thing for drugs – which seems both dangerous and disconcerting – what is not immediately clear is why this is the case.

In the New York magazine article Listening to Xanax, author Lisa Miller ponders whether the demands of modern American life necessitate routine benzo use, quoting one expert as saying they "stop a gap that evolution has yet to fill. As humans try to control an exponentially growing number of inputs with which they are confronted, 'our attention becomes less flexible, our minds become more chattering, and the next thing we know, we're frantic'. Humans are ill-equipped to process or accommodate all these new signals." The result? Perhaps "people need a bridge – a pill – between what life doles out and what people can realistically handle".

So what exactly do these popular and highly addictive prescriptions do? Well, taking an opioid analgesic benzo anxiolytic makes you feel very good. They don't just relieve pain and worry, they produce psychic euphoria, a sense that the rest of the world has slipped away, especially when abused – perpetuating the potential for addiction. It would only make sense, then, to ask why so many Americans would want to feel this way: what is it about the nation's society and culture seemingly that necessitates such relief?

There are a couple of potential explanations. To begin, Americans live super high-strung lives, but without significant rewards that could potential justify these stress levels. Mother Jones has noted that the proportion of employed people working 50 or more hours weekly has skyrocketed since 1977 (with the exception of low-income men). Also, the US is one of a handful of countries that doesn't enforce weekly time off, paid annual leave, or paid maternity leave.A lot of this work is not compensated. It's not necessarily making people richer, since household income appears to be declining. But people keep up the pace because the employment market is weak, and they don't want to lose their jobs.

Reports indicate that overworked people tend not to be healthy or happy. Centers for Disease Control data have linked overtime with "poorer perceived general health, increased injury rates, more illnesses, and increased mortality". And two recent studies have linked long work hours to a higher risk of depression. Stress, incontrovertibly exacerbated by these factors, is "a major contributor to the initiation and continuation of alcohol or other drug abuse, as well as to substance abuse relapse after periods of abstinence", according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse. And, while it would be incorrect to draw a causal link between stress and widespread addiction, it's safe to say that this correlation cannot – and should not – be ignored.

The American way of life sounds like it is sick, and drug overuse and abuse might be a symptom of this illness – what happens when existential entrapment and chemical escapism intersect.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/09/america-prescription-drug-addiction?CMP=twt_fd
 

Dakar

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Alternative thread title: "3 out of 4 American women still need psychiatric medication"

I keed, I keed
 

TxdoHawk

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I was royally slammed at a previous forum I used to go to for suggesting doctors were too fast and loose with prescribing drugs for psychological purposes. Looks like the studies back me up, however.
 
Damn is right. Also an interesting story to add to this one, prescription drug use slowed down in all age groups last year except for people between the ages of 19 and 24? 25? It's not going anywhere, evidently.

But you know. It's not harmful drug use when it's legal?
 
How many Americans drink to self medicate? And why is alcohol abuse less worrisome than benzo or antidepressant use? Especially since antidepressant's effects are mild, if not completely due to the placebo effect.
 

Zzoram

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The US not having paid maternity leave is disgustingly sexist and the US is the only developed country to not offer it IIRC.
 

Tesseract

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jimi_dini

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And why is alcohol abuse less worrisome than benzo or antidepressant use? Especially since antidepressant's effects are mild, if not completely due to the placebo effect.

lol? Or maybe you meant "mild" compared to chemotherapy?

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/medications_depression.htm#effects

The most widely prescribed antidepressants come from a class of medications known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). The SSRIs include well-known antidepressants such as Prozac, Zoloft, and Paxil.

The SSRIs act on a chemical in the brain called serotonin. Serotonin helps regulate mood, but it also plays a role in digestion, pain, sleep, mental clarity, and other bodily functions. As a result, the SSRI antidepressants cause a wide range of side effects, including:

Nausea, Insomnia, Anxiety, Restlessness, Decreased sex drive, Dizziness, Weight gain
Tremors, Sweating, Sleepiness or fatigue, Dry mouth, Diarrhea, Constipation, Headaches
 

RevDM

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It's like you guys are shocked to read that women are crazy.

Edit: I'm waiting for buttchin to chime in and tell us how all people need to be on meds. Lol jk.
 

Divvy

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I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that these medications can be advertised on tv.
 

Dice

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The attitudes here imply that we have some objective way of knowing what amount of the population should need it and that we have definitely exceeded that amount. However, such is not the case. What we know is that our understanding of psychology has expanded immensely over the last three decades and development of medication for the treatment of psychological issues has gone hand-in-hand with that.

Should we compare percentage of Americans that took cough medicine at least once per year from 1940 to 1970? Should we compare percentage of Americans who regularly took some form of allergy medication from 1970-2000? Yes, new fields of medical understanding always have weaknesses and some unnecessary or problematic use, but one shouldn't assume that it is mostly unnecessary if they are not professionals in the subject and don't know these people personally to make a professional evaluation. It's better to do what the article does and consider factors that may be contributing to use and the practices that complicate use, such as being overworked and substance abuse for escapism.

lol? Or maybe you meant "mild" compared to chemotherapy, so no hairloss or tumors.

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/medi...on.htm#effects
Please tell me you aren't just going by whatever impression that description gives you rather than an actual education on what and how they do what they do in the processes of the brain and how it relates to the rest of the body.
 

TomServo

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From my experience, nine out of 10 need it.

Seriously though, I'd be interested in reading dosage info as well. They talk about "euphoria" from Xanax? I've taken Xanax before, and I've never felt anything approaching euphoria. I feel more from one rum and diet than I do from one Xanax.

Perhaps there's more interesting info buried in the difference between people that are taking the meds in a clinical manner (dosage small enough to reign in the psychosis to allow clinical coping methods to be useful) and people who are simply abusing them.
 
The attitudes here imply that we have some objective way of knowing what amount of the population should need it and that we have definitely exceeded that amount. However, such is not the case. What we know is that our understanding of psychology has expanded immensely over the last three decades and development of medication for the treatment of psychological issues has gone hand-in-hand with that.

Should we compare percentage of Americans that took cough medicine at least once per year from 1940 to 1970? Should we compare percentage of Americans who regularly took some form of allergy medication from 1970-2000? Yes, new fields of medical understanding always have weaknesses and some unnecessary or problematic use, but one shouldn't assume that it is mostly unnecessary if they are not professionals in the subject and don't know these people personally to make a professional evaluation. It's better to do what the article does and consider factors that may be contributing to use and the practices that complicate use, such as being overworked and substance abuse for escapism.

Please tell me you aren't just going by whatever impression that description gives you rather than an actual education on what and how they do what they do in the processes of the brain and how it relates to the rest of the body.



yes, I am just going by intuition when I say shit is out of control in the prescription world.

how did we ever get by before this enlightenment about medication? did 1 in 4 women commit sudoku?

I'd bet my nuts I could go into a doctor's office right now, describe myself as vaguely having a very hard time with something, and get hooked up.
 
I can understand the mass use of opoids. They rock.

But what I can't understand is this hectic pace of life pushing people to an outlet. If you're life is stressing you so much that you need certain drugs to function, change your life for the better. De-stress.
 
Most of those side effects are also reported by people on a placebo. And it's only a small percentage of people who have those side effects. I've taken SSRIs and had almost no side effects.



have you stopped taking SSRIs? isn't that where the real shit begins, the weaning process?
 

Red

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From my experience, nine out of 10 need it.

Seriously though, I'd be interested in reading dosage info as well. They talk about "euphoria" from Xanax? I've taken Xanax before, and I've never felt anything approaching euphoria. I feel more from one rum and diet than I do from one Xanax.

Perhaps there's more interesting info buried in the difference between people that are taking the meds in a clinical manner (dosage small enough to reign in the psychosis to allow clinical coping methods to be useful) and people who are simply abusing them.
Usually pills like Xanax take some time to cause any changes.
 
Most of those side effects are also reported by people on a placebo. And it's only a small percentage of people who have those side effects. I've taken SSRIs and had almost no side effects.
And I know people who've been absolutely destroyed by SSRI side effects. Brain Chemistry is so unique that it's very hard to generalize about antidepressants. Hell, they only have like a 60% rate of success period (or something similar), they're far fom a magic bullet.
 
I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that these medications can be advertised on tv.

or that most doctors will throw them at anyone who walks into their office telling them they're anxious or sad today.


Example: My 60 year old mother in law walks into her doctor's office telling him she's feeling anxious about her daughter's upcoming wedding. What does the doctor do? He prescribes her Paxil.

A serious antidepressant for a lady feeling anxious about her daughter's wedding? GTFO

I literally considered calling that guy myself to tell him how stupid he was.


I gave my mother in law some anxiety advice, and a book I read, and 9 months later she's doing fine. The drugs weren't necessary, but that doctor didn't give a shit. He was looking to write a quick prescription and be done with her.
 
The attitudes here imply that we have some objective way of knowing what amount of the population should need it and that we have definitely exceeded that amount. However, such is not the case. What we know is that our understanding of psychology has expanded immensely over the last three decades and development of medication for the treatment of psychological issues has gone hand-in-hand with that.

Should we compare percentage of Americans that took cough medicine at least once per year from 1940 to 1970? Should we compare percentage of Americans who regularly took some form of allergy medication from 1970-2000? Yes, new fields of medical understanding always have weaknesses and some unnecessary or problematic use, but one shouldn't assume that it is mostly unnecessary if they are not professionals in the subject and don't know these people personally to make a professional evaluation. It's better to do what the article does and consider factors that may be contributing to use and the practices that complicate use, such as being overworked and substance abuse for escapism.
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To me, 1 in 4 is a staggering number either way.
 
And I know people who've been absolutely destroyed by SSRI side effects. Brain Chemistry is so unique that it's very hard to generalize about antidepressants. Hell, they only have like a 60% rate of success period (or something similar), they're far fom a magic bullet.

Of course it's not a magic bullet. It's probably a placebo.
 
you should have! these assholes don't get called out enough.

Exactly. No one asks them "what the fuck are you doing"?

I've heard horror stories of people getting off Paxil, and you're about to throw this lady on it just because she's anxious about some big events in her life? Please.

The biggest problem IMO is that regular old doctors can prescribe this stuff. It should be kept strictly in the hands of psychiatrists.
 
This thread is fucked up. So many assholes assuming everyones situation.

I am thankful for these drugs and their desired effect on my loved ones.
 
I think our lifestyle(which is unnatural) leads to the use of unnatural cures to fix it. That's the reality of the world we live in. There's a reason why every kid I know at school takes adderall before a big project is due. People my age have lost almost all ability to focus.
 

ToxicAdam

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I don't really see this as a bad thing. There is less shame in taking psychiatric medications, more awareness of the symptoms and more medications available to tackle the problem.

It shouldn't be surprising at all since most studies have consistently shown that 1/4 of all people suffer major depression at some point in their life and women are far more likely to suffer mental illness (partly due to dramatic hormone swings during their lifetimes).

http://www.sharecare.com/question/who-experiences-major-depression
 
This thread is fucked up. So many assholes assuming everyones situation.

I am thankful for these drugs and their desired effect on my loved ones.

See, that's the funny little thing though.

Person has anxiety/depression. Gets pills. 3 months later they feel better. "Oh, the drugs fixed me".


Well, how do you know that you wouldn't have felt better 3 months later without that drug? How do you know that just the placebo effect made you feel better? How do you know that some simple counseling and education on how anxiety/depression work wouldn't have made a world of difference for you, without the meds?

Then they continue on with the meds for the rest of their lives because that's how the game works. It's like a Netflix subscription for life. The drug companies love this shit.



I say all this with a first hand understanding of how this works. I had serious anxiety problems years ago, and of course anyone would have given me a pill immediately if I had just said the word. I told them I didn't want to get on drugs, and guess what? I educated myself extensively on anxiety and how it works, learning the ins and outs of it. Today I'm fine, and I no longer fear anxiety because I know it like the back of my hand. That insulates it from returning, because I already know the game. The person on the drug doesn't know how it works, or hasn't walked themselves out of it, so they're much more likely to be a victim of it again, even on the drugs.
 
This thread is fucked up. So many assholes assuming everyones situation.

I am thankful for these drugs and their desired effect on my loved ones.

So am I, as my mother cannot function without her anti-psychotic medication, but we can all agree that way too many people in this country take these medications when alternative methods are way more efficient and less dangerous to them.


See, that's the funny little thing though.

Person has anxiety/depression. Gets pills. Takes drug. 3 months later they feel better. "Oh, the drugs fixed me".


Well, how do you know that you wouldn't have felt better 3 months later without that drug? How do you know that just the placebo effect made you feel better? How do you know that some simple counseling and education on how anxiety/depression work wouldn't have made a world of difference for you, without the meds?

Then they continue on with the meds for the rest of their lives because that's how the game works. It's like a Netflix subscription for life. The drug companies love this shit.


To provide some of my own experience, I briefly took zoloft and other medications for severe panic disorder/PTSD(due to a traumatic event). I was in the hospital frequently due to the firm belief that I was having a heart attack and that I couldn't breathe. It was a horrible experience and lasted a few years. As I mentioned though, I only took medication that was pushed on to me by a psychiatrist for a few months. It seemed to have suppressed the anxiety, but I felt so different and unlike myself(like a zombie). I quit, suffered from quitting cold turkey for a bit, then decided I was going to overcome it with sheer will power. Granted, it took A LONG fucking time, but I overcame the worst parts of my anxiety and feel so much better today knowing that I did it with some therapy, breathing techniques and a general restructuring of how I see the world. I don't like the idea of someone strictly taking pills to overcome these type of problems, because you're negating the core method of getting better, and that is to trust your mind and your body in this world, without the aid of chemicals.
 
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