11 minutes of The Order 1886 gameplay
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SDCowboy
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*sees action footage* OMG this game is a generic corridor shooter!
*sees story, exploration and amazingly detailed item inspecting* OMG this is so boring I could barely force myself to keep watching!
1.21Gigawatts
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I expect The Order 1886 to very good at what it does, but I think some people want it to be something else and will therefore not like it that much.
Looks like his left leg got blown off and the impact knocked his lower body back and he fell forward as a result. Good stuff.
N30RYU
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A conversation with a friend...
Friend- Looked the last videos? I would buy The Order if it was more open world, looks amazing tho
Me- you won't buy a PS4 anyway?
F- what? looks amazing.
M- The Order is PS4 exclusive and you wouldn't buy a PS4 for it even if it was open world
F- It is PS4 Exclusive? First word of it...
M- First and last heheheheh
F- Then Batman and MGSV only in 2015 for me
M- Doesn't like the Witcher3? is open world.
F- Looks great, but I'm not sure... it's not clicking on me...
M- at least releases on the One...
Friend- Looked the last videos? I would buy The Order if it was more open world, looks amazing tho
Me- you won't buy a PS4 anyway?
F- what? looks amazing.
M- The Order is PS4 exclusive and you wouldn't buy a PS4 for it even if it was open world
F- It is PS4 Exclusive? First word of it...
M- First and last heheheheh
F- Then Batman and MGSV only in 2015 for me
M- Doesn't like the Witcher3? is open world.
F- Looks great, but I'm not sure... it's not clicking on me...
M- at least releases on the One...
HeWhoWalks
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About as accurate as the goal-posters don't want you to be.
lukeskymac
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Geez..
Well Sir Percival is pretty obviously voiced by
Graham McTavish
They probably don't even know what that something else might be. But knowing that it won't be whatever they want it to be is enough to complain about it not being that. So they'll just continue to complain about it not matching their standards that might not actually exist. That's why it has gotten to the point where people start complaining about how the hair is moving in the wind.
ThatGuyAgain
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I've seen enough with all of the trailers. I refuse to watch this.
13 days to go.
13 days to go.
FinalStageBoss
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lol looks like the no gameplay ppl are back. Why not just wait for the damn game before you shit on it, fuck it, I'm just going to throw these dumb asses on the ignore list.
SDCowboy
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I mean, it's OK to not be into any game someone wants to not be into, but many of these posts are just dog-piling. Some of the posts made it out like it was almost torturous to watch the video because it was so "boring". I'm not sure what they want in a video showing story and exploration, but whatever. There's not digging a game, and then there is thinly veiled trolling. Many posts in this thread land squarely in the latter.
So if i understood well some of you, the video isn't gameplay.
I didn't know that a scenario and some dialogs aren't good for a game beginning.
A tutorial during the introduction makes a game bad.
Why so much hate for this game??
It looks wonderful, shooting seems good, what do you need?
I didn't know that a scenario and some dialogs aren't good for a game beginning.
A tutorial during the introduction makes a game bad.
Why so much hate for this game??
It looks wonderful, shooting seems good, what do you need?
Clearly they need machine gun toting unicorns mowing down space leprechauns riding cyborg velociraptors with laser cannons on their saddles. I mean isn't that what "next gen gameplay" means?
Seriously, those trolls claiming that there is no gameplay or the gameplay looks boring should be banned or at least have their posts deleted. At best, they are getting other posters way off-topic to the thread title. At worst, they are making NeoGaf look more like IGN/GameSpot. Can the mods please do something about it so we can have a calm rational discussion?
littlemagician
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https://twitter.com/PlayStationCA/status/564092121615855616 hmmm new gameplay?
Possibly the PSX build/section.
littlemagician
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nevermind not actual video footage. just people invited to play it.
hey_it's_that_dog
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It can't be because different games have different priorities. The Order's priority is presentation. (This is not meant as a value judgment, it is a demonstrable fact based on all available evidence, including the dev diaries.)
Everyone will be happier if they recognize this and appreciate diversity instead of rigidly demanding that every game meet the best previously-set standards in every category, which is impossible, and will only lead to chronic dissatisfaction.
It's that people think the game will be underwhelming compared to other AAA games and score in the 70s, so "crow will be served" if it scores in the 90s, like I said to begin with.
What's the issue?
Duxxy3
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At this point I'm annoyed at how little gameplay we've see. We have a ton of gameplay from Bloodborne, along with an alpha, but so much of the footage we get from The Order is just walking around or cutscenes.
There is gameplay out there, but it's rare compared to how much non-gameplay videos we see.
When I first saw The Order I thought it was the second coming of Gears. So far I haven't seen that moment that gets me - the lancer chainsaw, the head popping, or even interesting enemies. The graphics impress me the same way that Gears did, but the gameplay, up to this point, really has not.
There is gameplay out there, but it's rare compared to how much non-gameplay videos we see.
When I first saw The Order I thought it was the second coming of Gears. So far I haven't seen that moment that gets me - the lancer chainsaw, the head popping, or even interesting enemies. The graphics impress me the same way that Gears did, but the gameplay, up to this point, really has not.
I think that's more or less intentional marketing. Not that the game will have bad gameplay by any means, but this game emphasizes visuals and story. Which is fine, it's not going to be for everyone. Just like it's fine that Mario for example emphasizes gameplay over visuals, even though the visuals can still be pretty good.
I don't think what's going on with The Order threads is just concern trolling from fanboys of other platforms, those concern trolls can be found in Bloodborne/Uncharted threads where you get five people being as loud as they possibly can to derail threads.
With The Order, I think it's just elitism from a sub-section of gamers that find anything not based on twitch-gameplay to be a non-game & shouldn't be considered a game, you're either a "real" game with twitch-based gameplay or you're a heavy rain knock-off, you can clearly see that with the made up narrative that cinematic third person shooters are somehow oversaturating the market when it's a pretty niche genre aside from the big games like Uncharted, it's like we live in an alternate reality where the big publishers are releasing a cinematic linear game after another while ignoring open-world design when it's exactly the opposite.
With The Order, I think it's just elitism from a sub-section of gamers that find anything not based on twitch-gameplay to be a non-game & shouldn't be considered a game, you're either a "real" game with twitch-based gameplay or you're a heavy rain knock-off, you can clearly see that with the made up narrative that cinematic third person shooters are somehow oversaturating the market when it's a pretty niche genre aside from the big games like Uncharted, it's like we live in an alternate reality where the big publishers are releasing a cinematic linear game after another while ignoring open-world design when it's exactly the opposite.
this gets me every time.
The scores in video games are based on the school system, you're average if you get 60 in school, above average if 70, good if 80, excellent if 90...etc, anything below 60 & you suck balls.
El-Pistolero
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ROFLMAO! This is GOLD!
EmptySpace
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGfkiqAMycw
that is plenty of gameplay. if you want a 30-minute video of pure shooting, you're not gonna get it because this game isn't going for 30 minutes of shootbang. it will have a mix of mini-games, stealth, melee, shootbang, qte, etc. and that is what this 15-min video represents.
also, please don't even wish this is gears. different game, different studio. only thing that's the same is that both are tps. that's about it. vanquish is a tps but it isn't like gears. i don't give a shit about gears so i wish this game is nowhere near like gears.
Night Angel
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MiamiWesker
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I'm the biggest RE4 fan around, I think it just got beat for rifle reload animation. Wow!
Messofanego
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I never get the "they have showed so little" negativity, yeah so what? Come release day you will be able to read reviews watch streams, basically watch all the footage you want. I for one like not being spoiled.
Also you should probably stop comparing it to a game the devs never promised to be like.
My only contribution to this thread-
After all the smoke, bullshit, and condescending definitions of "gameplay", "Pokemon", and "Journalizm" - one thing is undeniable:
The Order: 1886 is a stunning achievement in rendering. In this medium, I can't think of a single game that comes close to the atmosphere, the technical nitty gritty, and sheer attention to detail that this game oozes of.
I can't comment on the gameplay, but any criticisms that are raised lies squarely on the marketing department and RaD's unwillingness to open up about the game's meat and potatoes.
With that said, I feel uncomfortable reading posts where they are using Metacritic as a justification for the game's success. Some of us will just have to trust the REVIEW process. As funny as it is to even utter the words: "Game's Journalism", it is the job of the critic to dilute this game into a digestible diatribe.
I have faith that guys like Jim Sterlin, the Giant Bomb folks,and guys like Tony Polanco, HipHopGamer, and Jason Schrier will give sound consumer advice.
That said - day 1, day -1, it is already bought. etc.
After all the smoke, bullshit, and condescending definitions of "gameplay", "Pokemon", and "Journalizm" - one thing is undeniable:
The Order: 1886 is a stunning achievement in rendering. In this medium, I can't think of a single game that comes close to the atmosphere, the technical nitty gritty, and sheer attention to detail that this game oozes of.
I can't comment on the gameplay, but any criticisms that are raised lies squarely on the marketing department and RaD's unwillingness to open up about the game's meat and potatoes.
With that said, I feel uncomfortable reading posts where they are using Metacritic as a justification for the game's success. Some of us will just have to trust the REVIEW process. As funny as it is to even utter the words: "Game's Journalism", it is the job of the critic to dilute this game into a digestible diatribe.
I have faith that guys like Jim Sterlin, the Giant Bomb folks,and guys like Tony Polanco, HipHopGamer, and Jason Schrier will give sound consumer advice.
That said - day 1, day -1, it is already bought. etc.
pharmboy044
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pharmboy044
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nope, just pointing out something I found unusual.
DirgeExtinction
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Why are people surprised that games have slow sections? And why are the comments like "gameplay? Lol" necessary when such slow moments are shown?
It'll be the airship demo, I played it earlier in the week.
looks too good. I don't think we've had a real solid TPS yet this gen, so I'm hoping it does well in the gameplay department. looks insane, though.
In an era where game trailers are dedicated to the most intense whizz bang sections of games, whenever a game tries to do anything different, it is immediately lost to the ADD marketing machine.
Messofanego
Banned
Isn't it a little bit hypocritical to dismiss negative attitudes towards the game because of the lack in information, but on the same time declaring it goty? Or belittling "drive-by" posts that don't contribute to the discussion, while there are way more "reload.gif"-posts that also don't contribute to anything? Just like some have already decided that the game isn't for them, there are many that blindly defend it and even demand bans for those that don't agree.
Of course this isn't exclusive to 1886, but it seems to me that the hype-gaffers get treated way better than the anti-hype gaffers, but that might just be my perception. Being a more negative than positiv person, I wonder if those positive people also ask themselves if there would be a possibility of a ban, before submitting a reply that doesn't contribute to anything.
I still don't know if I should buy the game, and there is the fear of throwing away money because hype-gaf was more vocal than negative-gaf and things that might bother me just aren't said out loud.
littlemagician
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you think video games forums have trolls? try the comic forums, the trolls on there are the worst hands down.
I personally like this work because he is just enthusiasm X one million. All the editors combined give me a pretty wide field of understanding of what the game is like.
Fried Food
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I'm assuming the bad frame rate is just the guys video
His reviews [well, video impressions] are the best of them all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RvLGl5wlKTU#t=608
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Can't I have my fun, kev ;_;
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