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[MetatronM]

Another point of possibly doing a National Sales Tax is this, your common person (not me) since they have more money, they will spend more money. Therefore putting more money into the coffers of the government and getting us back to being a respectable country. We are a consuming nation, and when you give the people their money back to them, they will spend it.

Imagine the possiblities of say a %3 tax on anything (except food) that you buy. Don't you think at the end of the year that the taxes brought in would be MORE than they got from income taxes? It would be.. no refunds to dish out, no overpaid goverentment IRS paper filiers to pay, no check processing to pay for(shipping costs money you know), nothing. Reduces the government, makes 99.9% of peoiple happy, and makes life a little easier for most. Granted it will probably put most accountants out of business, but it's not a perfect plan.

Except the National Sales Tax they are suggesting is somewhere in the vicinity of 20% on everything you buy. And yes, people with more money will obviously pay more, but people with less money pay a greater percentage of their income as they have to use more of it to buy the things they need, as opposed to upper class people who will pay more but have much more extra income to put away. In effect, it sounds nice for lower classes, but it actually screws you hard.

And that's as far as this political discussion goes.

And yeah, you did ask for them to take your money and then immediately asked for them not to.


With that said, I feel bad for those girls who came back from Athens and had to sit through this clusterfuck as opposed to soaking up the Olympic atmosphere and celebrations of the closing ceremonies. But that's just me.

 

[jecclr2003]

G4... oh yeah that.

Well at least with the sales tax theyd be getting it becuase I'm actually getting something, a product of whatever sort. Not them taking it out as if it never existed in my pay.

HEll that money could be going into my 401k plan.. that keeps losing money anyway.. SHIT!

Metatron,

I hadn't heard they were suggesting something that HIGH for a sales tax.. seems kinda excessive don't ya think?

If thats the case... point goes to Metatron

 

[Memles]

You know...I'm not a big fan of Linkin Park, but they were by FAR the best choice in that category, in my view.

 

[methodman]

I don't know how Kanye West hasn't won best video in his two nominations. That video is sweet.

Fucking mtv pricks.

 

[Chesapeake Silt]

OK, at this point, I'm ready to choose death instead of voting just to spite mtv.

 

[aparisi2274]

Ahhh I see that big black guy finally made his presence. I forgot his name, but he is the grammy crasher guy, and he is on Stern alot.

 

[dem]

Was that Lohan on stage? If so... what a mess

 

[aparisi2274]

Fuckin MTV and their fucking politcal messages. This is an awards show not the RNC or DNC. Leave that to the idiot politicians. Just put on a horrible show and let me go to bed.

 

[Incognito]

BE SURE TO VOTE!

CHOOSE OR LOSE!

VOTE OR DIE!!!!!

 

[Dreamfixx]

Weak. Just. Fucking. Weak.

 

[Chesapeake Silt]

Little Know Fact: If you don't vote, Puffy will come to your house and shoot you in the head.

 

[jecclr2003]

I still refer back to my original post... why is a station that plays NO MUSIC VIDEOS, having an awards show for said music videos. Hypocracy at it's finest

 

[MetatronM]

I still refer back to my original post... why is a station that plays NO MUSIC VIDEOS, having an awards show for said music videos. Hypocracy at it's finest

They show videos. They're on at about 3 am.

 

[Dice]

Carly Patterson reminds me of a younger (and shorter) Amanda Bynes.

 

[MIMIC]

Highlights:

*Britney is 0-16.

*If you don't vote, you'll be the victim of a November 2nd murder-spree perpetrated by P. Diddy with assistance from the "Choose Or Lose" Mafia.

*This show was sans funny/great, "water cooler talk" moments.

* Jay-Z has officially proclaimed his hiatus (see Ma$e).

 

[Pimpwerx]

Watched about 15 minutes worth. Caught Dave and Terror Squad, and the end of Kanye. Glad Usher won something. Otherwise, it looked like it sucked. No host was a stupid fucking idea. That and MTV hella sucks these days. They suck worse than the word "hella". They really don't play music. Just TRL, which explains an awful lot about the voting and the general bullshit that passes for music on the network these days. MTV has destroyed popular music as we know it. PEACE.

 

[StrikerObi]

I watched a bit. What was up with the OMG VOTE VOTE VOTE shit this year? It completly ruined an otherwise excellent performance from Outkast.

 

[MIMIC]

I'm seriously disappointed. There were no "HOLY FREAKIN SHIT!!" moments.

This almost felt like the Kids' Choice Awards.

 

[Particle Physicist]

:lol


im glad i went to see garden state instead of staying home and watching this crap.. then again.. i can watch the repeats any day/time of the week for the next month.

my sister is at an after party right now. :/ . i really hate miami, i cant wait to go back to normal people at the end of this week.

 

[MIMIC]

:lol


im glad i went to see garden state instead of staying home and watching this crap.. then again.. i can watch the repeats any day/time of the week for the next month.

my sister is at an after party right now. :/ . i really hate miami, i cant wait to go back to normal people at the end of this week.

The only entertaining this about this is to see how E!, Access Hollywood, and Entertainment Tonight try as hard as they can to pump up the garbage that just took place.

I mean, seriously...this award show sucked this year.

 

[jett]

Who the HELL were those lame-ass robed queers?

 

[OmniGamer]

Christina should have won that. Those were some amazing vocals in that song.

Aren't these awards supposed to be(supposed being a key word) for the videos, and not the song itself.

 

[MIMIC]

Carly Patterson reminds me of a younger (and shorter) Amanda Bynes.

I thought the same thing every time I saw her this year at the Olympics.

 

[toohectic]

Carly Patterson reminds me of a younger (and shorter) Amanda Bynes.

Was Carly at the VMAs? I would think she would still be in Athens at the closing ceremonies. (well, that happened 9 hours earlier, but I wouldn't expect her to fly right home after the ceremonies to attend the VMAs thats for sure.) But maybe she did..... anyway, was she there?

 

[CB3]

did anyone just see that eminem/aftermath commercial a few minutes ago(atleast on the west side)? New em album dropping nov 16?

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

:lol
my sister is at an after party right now. :/ . i really hate miami, i cant wait to go back to normal people at the end of this week.

Normal people in Miami?

*blue screen*

 

[MIMIC]

Was Carly at the VMAs? I would think she would still be in Athens at the closing ceremonies. (well, that happened 9 hours earlier, but I wouldn't expect her to fly right home after the ceremonies to attend the VMAs thats for sure.) But maybe she did..... anyway, was she there?

Yep

 

[isamu]

OK, at this point, I'm ready to choose death instead of voting just to spite mtv.

Who the HELL were those lame-ass robed queers?

:lol :lol

 

[FightyF]

No, really. Who were those robed...robed people?

 

[isamu]

Is that Ma$e with P. Diddy?????

WTF???? He hasn't been around in ages! And why is he acting like a drunken retard?

"Welcome Baaaack!"...???

I thought he was a minister or something!!!!

Someone please explain!!

 

[dskillzhtown]

I didn't see the show, I was out. But from what I have heard, Jay-Z is retired, but Sean Carter will have an album out next year on Warner Brothers/Sean Carter records.

I just can't watch MTV anymore. Mindless reality TV 18 hours a day is just disappointing. MTV at one time really helped music. It got more people interested in music and exposed people to alot of stuff they never would have seen or heard. But now, it is just another Viacom cash cow.

 

[AeroGod]

Is that Ma$e with P. Diddy?????

WTF???? He hasn't been around in ages! And why is he acting like a drunken retard?

"Welcome Baaaack!"...???

I thought he was a minister or something!!!!

Someone please explain!!

ummm....he came back.

 

[isamu]

OMFG those robe guys suck donkey balls!!!!!!

Alecia Keys though....

+1

 

[samus4ever]

Carly would be hot if she grew about 6 more inches, and didn't look like she had a package under her gym suit.

 

[isamu]

Oh and a big FUCK YOU to No Doubt for ripping off and butchering "It's My Life" by TalkTalk!

 

[Manabanana]

So I read the nominees for everyting...and I'm left wondering, "Why don't they just call it the MTV hip-hop/rap awards?" I was under the impression that most anything worthwhile in the genre was released in the 80s-90s? I suppose there's J5, but that's about it, really...

 

[R_GILL]

So I read the nominees for everyting...and I'm left wondering, "Why don't they just call it the MTV hip-hop/rap awards?" I was under the impression that most anything worthwhile in the genre was released in the 80s-90s? I suppose there's J5, but that's about it, really...

Nas is still good, and um well sometimes Eminem, that's all I can think of.

 

[Team Rancid]

Was Lohan there? Any pics?
What other hotties?
Where are the Pics??!?!

 

[DarienA]

Is there a rebroadcast on this anytime in the near future? I may have to TiVo it so I can check it out.

 

[Diablos]

MTV2 Award
* Franz Ferdinand - "Take Me Out"
* Modest Mouse - "Float On"
* Yellowcard - "Ocean Avenue" <----WINNER!
* Yeah Yeah Yeahs - "Maps"
* Elephant Man - "Pon De River"
* Twista feat. Kanye West and Jamie Foxx - "Slow Jamz"

WTF. Modest Mouse, Yeah Yeah Yeahs and even Franz Fuckmydad, all of these bands are better than Yellowcard. I hate MTV.

Wayne from The Flaming Lips walking across the audience in a bubble was pretty sweet. I'm glad I didn't sit through this show though... MTV has evolved into crap.

 

[tt_deeb]

Oh and a big FUCK YOU to No Doubt for ripping off and butchering "It's My Life" by TalkTalk!

Uh...welcome to last year - and the cover isn't THAT bad. The Flaming Lips were there? cool.

 

[djtiesto]

Best Dance Video
* Beyonce - "Naughty Girl"
* Britney Spears - "Toxic"
* Black Eyed Peas - Hey Mama"
* Usher feat. Lil' Jon & Ludacris - "Yeah" <----WINNER!
* Missy Elliott - "I'm Really Hot"

What the fuck? How is any of this shit "dance music"??? Stuff like this angers me so much, makes me want to shoot up MTV's headquarters.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

This horrible awards show has proven one thing...MTV needs white people back in a BIG way!

runaway train never coming back

wrong way on a one way track

seems like i should be getting somewhere

somehow im neither here nor there...

WHERE THE WHITE PEOPLE AT MTV?!?

 

[HAOHMARU]

Check out Hollywood's new daughter!

 

[DJ Demon J]

Check out Hollywood's new daughter!

Goddamn.

 

[methodman]

Is that Ma$e with P. Diddy?????

WTF???? He hasn't been around in ages! And why is he acting like a drunken retard?

"Welcome Baaaack!"...???

I thought he was a minister or something!!!!

Someone please explain!!

Oops, your right (edit).

 

[revivalist]

Mase said something about keeping Sunday to God even after blowing up with "Welcome Back".
He claimed he wouldn't do awards shows on Sundays no matter how glitzy they were.
What a fucking scumbag.

 

[Jill Sandwich]

This event was obviously not sponsored by SegaDreamcast, that's why it's not aw3s0m3.

 

[isamu]

Oops, your right (edit).

I mean damn...if you're minister act like one!