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Yeah, even though the White Sox have started off wonderfully, I don't see them winning more than 85 games.

Minnesota is winning the division and the Wild Card will be fought between the Red Sox and Rangers.
 
Cubsfan23 said:
Eminem starting to get nervous about our bet.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol we're up 7.5 games on you guys. Gimme a break. Not to mention we still have all our starters. Your scrub rotation can't keep this up, and you know it.

Yeah, even though the White Sox have started off wonderfully, I don't see them winning more than 85 games.
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I really, really doubt it. The way we've started out will let us cruise to 90 wins, easy.
Look at it this way: For the rest of the ENTIRE season the sox could finish five games under .500 and still have 86 wins. They finish one under .500 and they still get to 90 wins.

And don't forget, our schedule is cake.
3 against the Rockies, 12 against KC, 14 against Detroit, 3 against Tampa Bay, 9 against Cleveland.

That's 41 out of a remaining 107 games against teams ranging from bad to awful. Even if you don't think we're as good a team as our record shows, to think we'll finish that far below .500 the rest of the year with a schedule like that is just nutty.
 
Cubsfan23 said:
Clemens getting saved by his offense?
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9 runs in 2.5 innings... following a game where they combined for 20 runs... what the hell.

Where the last time Mulder and Clemens faced each other it was a 10 inning 1-0 game.
 
Eminem said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol we're up 7.5 games on you guys. Gimme a break. Not to mention we still have all our starters. Your scrub rotation can't keep this up, and you know it.



I really, really doubt it. The way we've started out will let us cruise to 90 wins, easy.
Look at it this way: For the rest of the ENTIRE season the sox could finish five games under .500 and still have 86 wins. They finish one under .500 and they still get to 90 wins.

And don't forget, our schedule is cake.
3 against the Rockies, 12 against KC, 14 against Detroit, 3 against Tampa Bay, 9 against Cleveland.

That's 41 out of a remaining 107 games against teams ranging from bad to awful. Even if you don't think we're as good a team as our record shows, to think we'll finish that far below .500 the rest of the year with a schedule like that is just nutty.
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Just goes to show you the White Sox aren't that good. Just playing a bunch of scrubby teams this year. If the Sox are lucky enough to make the playoffs (Sox *will* choke and give the division up to Minnesota) they'll be lucky to make it out of the first round by playing weak competition all year. The Cubs, OTOH, are proving their impending dominance over MLB by going 5-1 and after today 6-1 on their current West Coast road trip against two tough times while crippled. Payback is gonna be a bitch at the CELL and you know it!
 
Thats right bitch ass Cards,YOU GOT HIT BY THE STRO TRAIN! TOOT TOOT BITCHES!
 
good article at espn by jayson stark on the drastic reduction in home run numbers...

No matter how many deep thinkers who either believed, or wanted to believe, that the new steroid-testing monster didn't have much to do with this offensive slippage, the group that thought otherwise couldn't possibly have been more vociferous.

One GM said there was no reason to list other explanations because there was "no question" you could hang this change on the testing program. Another GM was so uninterested in any other theories, he advised us to "forget the rest."

But no one laid this out more simply than Giants shortstop Omar Vizquel.


"The biggest reason is steroids, obviously," he said. "Second is [less use of] supplements. Third is injuries. And anything else is all a bunch of bull."

When our panelists talked about how the assault on steroids had changed the game, they talked in part about the stuff we all see: smaller physiques and a downturn in "accidental" home runs (checked swings, broken bats, etc.) But some of what they see is not so obvious to the casual eye.

"The big thing," Phillies closer Billy Wagner said, "is the effect on confidence. [Not being able to hit on steroids] takes the confidence out of the hitter."

But it isn't just the hitters' psyches that are different. There is evidence the changes in hitters have done wonders for the confidence of some pitchers, too.

Brewers GM Doug Melvin said he sees pitchers working the outer half of the plate more "without fear of the smaller hitters hitting it out to the opposite field."

Marlins pitcher Al Leiter thinks lineups have suddenly become "more manageable." Where once these same orders seemed to be stacked with four and five scary power bats, now "pitchers don't have to pitch around more than a batter, or maybe two," Leiter said.

And the stats, if you look closely enough, vividly reflect that. It isn't just the power numbers that have shifted, Hirdt said. Walks are down to 6.4 per game, which would be their lowest rate over a full season since 1989. And strikeouts are also down to 12.4 per game, which would be the fewest whiffs since 1994.


The moral of that story is pitchers suddenly aren't as afraid of contact. Leiter said pitchers see they now "have areas to throw to, and the ball is staying in the park. And in many instances, it is now taking three consecutive hits to score a run."

As opposed to yesteryear, when it often took one hit to score three runs.

But the more people we surveyed, the more we realized it wasn't just steroid use per se that has been altered by the new testing program. It's the use of everything – supplements, protein shakes, even vitamins.

One prominent agent said he has told his players this year, "The rule is simple: You can't take anything."

"That's what I'm telling guys," he said. "No supplements. No vitamins. No anything, because you just don't know what might cause a positive test."

"Guys are definitely being more careful," Eyre said. "You just have to look at me to know I should take more vitamins, but I'm scared to take them. I don't want to take any kind of supplements, because I don't know what I can and can't take. They need to give players a list. Not a list of seven-syllable ingredients, but a list of actual products. Can I take GNC Vitamin B-12, or not?"

In our poll, 12 different panelists – nearly half of them players – said the decline in supplement use is having nearly as big an impact on offense as the drop in steroid use, if not bigger.

"The reason guys take supplements is to give them energy the next day," Vizquel said. "But some of these guys who are afraid to use them are coming in tired the next day. They don't feel the same. So it's not only because of steroids. It's all the other stuff they're afraid to take. They believe they can't hit the ball the same as they used to, because they feel weak, or not strong enough."
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2074920&num=1
 
I just got back from the park, and Paul Quantrill was there. He threw me some pitches. I hit all of them over 400 feet. He left crying, he then called out my family.

FUCK YOU TORRE. WHY DO YOU STILL LET THIS FUCKER PITCH. 5-2 becomes 9-2 AGAIN. Fucking guy throws meatballs.
 
Q used to be a easy-going guy

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Now look at him.

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Obviously, you guys need him in Toronto so the fun times begin again. Halladay needs someone to partake in tomfoolery with. Maybe Cashman will even send him over for free.
 
Eminem said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol we're up 7.5 games on you guys. Gimme a break. Not to mention we still have all our starters. Your scrub rotation can't keep this up, and you know it.
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Uh, I'd be just as worried about Garland and crew coming back down to earth. The Cubs' staff despite its holes and injury debacles still has 30 more strikeouts than any other team in the league. Hell, they've only given up 8 more runs than the Sox ( while the offense has scored 1 more run in the league without the DH.) Just as I know Glendon Rusch (current ERA 1.96) is NOT going to pitch 2.5 runs better than his career average, Garland and Contreras aren't going to pitch over a run better than their career averages.
 
speshylives said:
Obviously, you guys need him in Toronto so the fun times begin again. Halladay needs someone to partake in tomfoolery with. Maybe Cashman will even send him over for free.
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Huckaby for Quantrill....Let's do it. Worst backup catcher in the league. Hitting a smoking .130. On days when he plays, I wish we were an NL team. Surely Halladay could hit a few more than him
 
It's amazing that the Yanks would eat Karsay's $6 million before Quantrill's $3 million. What the fuck is this shit? How many fucking games does this assclown have to ruin before Torre sees that he is completely worthless? While you're eating salary, drop Groom. He doesn't even make $1 million. Given the rest of the contracts, dropping Groom would be free.
 
Mrbob said:
Just goes to show you the White Sox aren't that good. Just playing a bunch of scrubby teams this year. If the Sox are lucky enough to make the playoffs (Sox *will* choke and give the division up to Minnesota) they'll be lucky to make it out of the first round by playing weak competition all year. The Cubs, OTOH, are proving their impending dominance over MLB by going 5-1 and after today 6-1 on their current West Coast road trip against two tough times while crippled. Payback is gonna be a bitch at the CELL and you know it!
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You're an idiot.

You wanna put some money where your mouth is? $10 says the Sox win at least two of three against the cubs at the cell. $10 says the sox finish with a better record than the cubs. a final $10 says the sox win their division.

come on big mouth, let's see how much of that you believe and how much of it is pure cub fan bullshit.
 
Eminem said:
You're an idiot.

You wanna put some money where your mouth is? $10 says the Sox win at least two of three against the cubs at the cell. $10 says the sox finish with a better record than the cubs. a final $10 says the sox win their division.

come on big mouth, let's see how much of that you believe and how much of it is pure cub fan bullshit.
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:lol

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Eminem said:
You're an idiot.

You wanna put some money where your mouth is? $10 says the Sox win at least two of three against the cubs at the cell. $10 says the sox finish with a better record than the cubs. a final $10 says the sox win their division.

come on big mouth, let's see how much of that you believe and how much of it is pure cub fan bullshit.
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Easy money. You're on. Don't worry, though, I'll let you pay me the $30 in one bulk payment after the season is over! :D
 
Mrbob said:
Easy money. You're on. Don't worry, though, I'll let you pay me the $30 in one bulk payment after the season is over! :D
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You clearly have lost this bet,you just dipped into your videogame savings account and threw away a game.

Now M&M can take that money and buy beer with it or another Cubs sucks t-shirt.
 
Seeing the Giants get wooped up like this is one of the few good MLB moments of recent note! Great to see Jason Werth have such a huge day as well!
 
speshylives said:
I just got back from the park, and Paul Quantrill was there. He threw me some pitches. I hit all of them over 400 feet. He left crying, he then called out my family.

FUCK YOU TORRE. WHY DO YOU STILL LET THIS FUCKER PITCH. 5-2 becomes 9-2 AGAIN. Fucking guy throws meatballs.
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Yeah, well at least he's the only pitcher on our staff with any balls, meat or otherwise *Looks at Jeter's HBP count*.
And we'd have lost 5-2 or 9-2. If MLB allowed half-runs, we'd have lost 2.5-2.
 
5-2 isn't as daunting a lead as 9-2 to come back from. Considering how few come back wins the Yanks have (what's the count at now, 1?), a seven run lead will definitely make you not even want to try.

And you're right, none of the Yank pitchers have nuts. Not even Randy who used to love throwing in.
 
speshylives said:
5-2 isn't as daunting a lead as 9-2 to come back from. Considering how few come back wins the Yanks have (what's the count at now, 1?), a seven run lead will definitely make you not even want to try.

And you're right, none of the Yank pitchers have nuts. Not even Randy who used to love throwing in.
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Fun Fact:
The Yanks are 0-20 when facing a deficit over 3 runs.
Fun Fact #2:
The Yanks are now tied with the Tigers in the loss column.
Fun Fact #3:
No team in the history of baseball has ever had less fun playing the game of baseball then the Yankees.
 
bob_arctor said:
Fun Fact:
The Yanks are 0-20 when facing a deficit over 3 runs.
Fun Fact #2:
The Yanks are now tied with the Tigers in the loss column.
Fun Fact #3:
No team in the history of baseball has ever had less fun playing the game of baseball then the Yankees.
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Also winless when scoring 3 runs or less
 
CHACIN WITH THE CLUTCH HIT.


:lol Man he looked funny with that little hoping at first base.

Nice, John Mcdonald, in addition to being Canada's first Prime Minister, stole 3rd for us.

EDIT: 4-0 Jays, and the WGN guys sound a bit morose already. :( Someone at WGN has already given up and put the Jays up 5-0, perhaps realizing that Wells will likely go yard in a batter or two anyway.
 
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