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Despite poor on-base mark, Perez leads off
By Paul Sullivan
Tribune staff reporter
July 5, 2005, 11:26 PM CDT
ATLANTA -- Neifi Perez turned out to be the mystery man to whom Cubs manager Dusty Baker was referring Monday as his replacement for Corey Patterson in the leadoff spot.
But Baker was reluctant to address the leadoff situation, an increasingly touchy subject.
"I don't want to get into that," he said. "I said what I was going to do, and that's what I'm doing."
Perez entered Tuesday's action with the lowest on-base percentage in the leadoff spot (.264) of any National League hitter. Patterson's .268 on-base percentage in the top spot was second worst in the NL.
Jerry Hairston, who ranks third among NL leadoff men with a .394 on-base percentage, was out of the starting lineup despite going 4-for-7 with two walks in his previous two games leading off. Hairston came in to play second base when Derrek Lee went down with left shoulder irritation, forcing Todd Walker to move to first.
Hairston occasionally has missed signs, a sore point with the Cubs coaching staff. He conceded the season has been a "disappointing" experience for him.
"I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed, because I want to play," Hairston said. " I really thought I would fit here. But it hasn't worked out, I guess."
Overhearing the interview at an adjoining locker, Aramis Ramirez offered his third base job to Hairston. Hairston laughed, although he did say he was willing to play left field if Baker was interested.
Baker is not interested, saying it was the most difficult outfield position to learn. Hairston said he played it last year in Baltimore and had no problem.
"Just because something is tough doesn't mean you run away from it," he said.
Safe for now
The Cubs aren't shopping Patterson, nor is any team inquiring about his availability. The Cubs continue to believe Patterson will snap out of his long-running funk.
"Nobody ever expected him to be hitting in the .230s, he'd be the first to tell you that," general manager Jim Hendry said. "But he still has a lot of upside, and I'm sure he's perfectly willing to do whatever it takes to get out of it."
We've imploded mid season already in the Baker era. This is an all new low!
By Paul Sullivan
Tribune staff reporter
July 5, 2005, 11:26 PM CDT
ATLANTA -- Neifi Perez turned out to be the mystery man to whom Cubs manager Dusty Baker was referring Monday as his replacement for Corey Patterson in the leadoff spot.
But Baker was reluctant to address the leadoff situation, an increasingly touchy subject.
"I don't want to get into that," he said. "I said what I was going to do, and that's what I'm doing."
Perez entered Tuesday's action with the lowest on-base percentage in the leadoff spot (.264) of any National League hitter. Patterson's .268 on-base percentage in the top spot was second worst in the NL.
Jerry Hairston, who ranks third among NL leadoff men with a .394 on-base percentage, was out of the starting lineup despite going 4-for-7 with two walks in his previous two games leading off. Hairston came in to play second base when Derrek Lee went down with left shoulder irritation, forcing Todd Walker to move to first.
Hairston occasionally has missed signs, a sore point with the Cubs coaching staff. He conceded the season has been a "disappointing" experience for him.
"I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed, because I want to play," Hairston said. " I really thought I would fit here. But it hasn't worked out, I guess."
Overhearing the interview at an adjoining locker, Aramis Ramirez offered his third base job to Hairston. Hairston laughed, although he did say he was willing to play left field if Baker was interested.
Baker is not interested, saying it was the most difficult outfield position to learn. Hairston said he played it last year in Baltimore and had no problem.
"Just because something is tough doesn't mean you run away from it," he said.
Safe for now
The Cubs aren't shopping Patterson, nor is any team inquiring about his availability. The Cubs continue to believe Patterson will snap out of his long-running funk.
"Nobody ever expected him to be hitting in the .230s, he'd be the first to tell you that," general manager Jim Hendry said. "But he still has a lot of upside, and I'm sure he's perfectly willing to do whatever it takes to get out of it."
We've imploded mid season already in the Baker era. This is an all new low!
if missing signs is such a big deal, why the fuck did Alou still start basically every game he was healthy last year? :lol :lol :lol
guy was the dumbest fucking player in the NL on the basepads.
ok, here's a deal....we'll trade you Podsednik for Hairston, Lee, and Prior.
guy was the dumbest fucking player in the NL on the basepads.
ok, here's a deal....we'll trade you Podsednik for Hairston, Lee, and Prior.
Ninja Scooter
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Eminem said:
sorry, but i hacked into it and voted for Ichiro again.
Excess Poo Flakes
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omg, today is the day.
Dr. Strangelove
I'M COOCOO FOR COCO CRISP!
Red Sox Nation defeated Japan in the initial voting, getting Johnny Damon in over Ichiro, and we'll keep him out again! Seriously though, Ichiro does not deserve to be in the All Star game this year. Podsednik has been great for the ChiSox this year in the role of the catalyst. Oswalt got my NL vote.
In other news, has anyone else been hearing about Sweet Lou's latest nutty scheme? Apparently he's planning on starting an upcoming game with a relief pitcher, and THEN bringing in starter Casey Fossum to pitch innings 3 through 9. Awesome strategy, Lou.
In other news, has anyone else been hearing about Sweet Lou's latest nutty scheme? Apparently he's planning on starting an upcoming game with a relief pitcher, and THEN bringing in starter Casey Fossum to pitch innings 3 through 9. Awesome strategy, Lou.
I've got a Blue Pants said:omg, today is the day.
Game is on ESPN tonight as well! The beginning of a new Cubs winning streak will start with Priors domination tonight!
Did you guys hear about crazy Lou? He is so sick of the Devil Rays pen blowing leads, he is now threatening to have pitchers out of the pen start the game and put his starters in at the 3rd inning so the leads won't get blown before reaching the closer! :lol
woah woah woah what the fuck did I just see on ESPN? i only caught the tail end, but they were talking about Clemens going to the White Sox. i think i'm gonna have a wet dream about that tonight.
in the meantime, i'm off to the cell to see us finish up the sweep these lowly d rays.
in the meantime, i'm off to the cell to see us finish up the sweep these lowly d rays.
Dr. Strangelove
I'M COOCOO FOR COCO CRISP!
Kenny Williams said he would do ANYTHING to land Clemens.
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Dr. Strangelove said:
what about schmidt?
Excess Poo Flakes
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Crap!
Dr. Strangelove
I'M COOCOO FOR COCO CRISP!
Scott Podsednik takes the final spot for the AL. Captain Intangibles will be getting a short vacation.
captmcblack
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Emperor Steinbrenner's ninjas will take care of Scotty P's hamstrings shortly.
Ninja Scooter
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Dr. Strangelove said:
he also beat out Uglyzilla. Impressive.
siamesedreamer
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The Braves called up super duper prospect Jeff Francouer from AA tonight because Brian Jordan was put on the DL. While he's not really ready right now, he is the Braves' next Chipper Jones type caliber player. Most comparisons are made to Dale Murphy. 
Dr. Strangelove
I'M COOCOO FOR COCO CRISP!
Peter Gammons is reporting that Kevin Millar wants to be traded.
See ya later KFK! Be sure to take John Halama with you on the way out.
See ya later KFK! Be sure to take John Halama with you on the way out.
BigJonsson
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GO JAYS GO!
when they announced scotty won the final spot on the team at the cell tonight, he got a nice 5 minute standing O. was very nice to be a part of.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol @ Lou......he left Fossum out there for 125 fucking pitches. christ, talk about wanting to lose.
And also, whatever the fuck Frank Thomas is on, I want some. another 3 run jack tonight. 18 hits on the season, 11 of them went yard. nuts.
they already had the magic number count going on down there. 69 is what it currently is.
now i get to go back on friday for Rat Pack/Swing night at the cell. always a fun time.
edit: oh, and also, it looks like Joe Crede is gonna get traded. he only missed one start all year up until these last two games, when we've had someone else fill in there. it's pretty obvious we're seeing if we can do without him.....him and ??? for ???. we're also definitely confirmed to be interested in getting Guardado....then we can just fucking cut Vizcaino, him being worthless and all.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol @ Lou......he left Fossum out there for 125 fucking pitches. christ, talk about wanting to lose.
And also, whatever the fuck Frank Thomas is on, I want some. another 3 run jack tonight. 18 hits on the season, 11 of them went yard. nuts.
they already had the magic number count going on down there. 69 is what it currently is.
now i get to go back on friday for Rat Pack/Swing night at the cell. always a fun time.
edit: oh, and also, it looks like Joe Crede is gonna get traded. he only missed one start all year up until these last two games, when we've had someone else fill in there. it's pretty obvious we're seeing if we can do without him.....him and ??? for ???. we're also definitely confirmed to be interested in getting Guardado....then we can just fucking cut Vizcaino, him being worthless and all.
Ninja Scooter
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Dr. Strangelove said:Peter Gammons is reporting that Kevin Millar wants to be traded.
See ya later KFK! Be sure to take John Halama with you on the way out.
how much does Millar make? I can't see why any team would want him if his salary is too high. He's a decent bat, but his value is more in the AL because he can't really play any position in the field all that well. Basically a glorified DH, and most teams already have one (or two) or those.
GODDAMMIT I CAN'T STAND THIS ANYMORE.
FSN Bay Area, you are killing me. I get a lot of Giants baseball because of you (and that's bad enough, but I have to watch it because there's not much else on at this time of night) but your dumbass announcers are just too much. ALL THEY DO IS TALK ABOUT KIDS IN THE CROWD. ENOUGH ALREADY PLEASE GOD. I don't care about whether the fucking kid caught the foul ball. I don't care if random dude in the Giants organization gave the fat crying girl a signed baseball because she started crying when a different kid grabbed a ball 20 feet away from her. And I sure as hell don't care to see you guys do iso commentary on various people in the crowd (and 90% of the time it's kids) and make lame folksy jokes/comments a *dozen or more times a game every game*.
Seriously, I don't know if these guys are good baseball announcers or not because they never, ever talk about the game. It's a constant barrage of "cute" quips about kids in the stands and talking about the fucking boats outside Petco. Only announcers that I get on TV that I hate close to as much as the WGN Whitesox tool.
FSN Bay Area, you are killing me. I get a lot of Giants baseball because of you (and that's bad enough, but I have to watch it because there's not much else on at this time of night) but your dumbass announcers are just too much. ALL THEY DO IS TALK ABOUT KIDS IN THE CROWD. ENOUGH ALREADY PLEASE GOD. I don't care about whether the fucking kid caught the foul ball. I don't care if random dude in the Giants organization gave the fat crying girl a signed baseball because she started crying when a different kid grabbed a ball 20 feet away from her. And I sure as hell don't care to see you guys do iso commentary on various people in the crowd (and 90% of the time it's kids) and make lame folksy jokes/comments a *dozen or more times a game every game*.
Seriously, I don't know if these guys are good baseball announcers or not because they never, ever talk about the game. It's a constant barrage of "cute" quips about kids in the stands and talking about the fucking boats outside Petco. Only announcers that I get on TV that I hate close to as much as the WGN Whitesox tool.
Dr. Strangelove
I'M COOCOO FOR COCO CRISP!
Ninja Scooter said:
He has very little value. I think he is making about 3 million this year, which is much more than he has proved to be worth. He has absolutely no power anymore, and that is a must when you're talking about a 1B/DH. A team would have to be foolish to give up anything of real value to the Red Sox for a below average defensive first baseman with no power.
blow me. Hawk and DJ = my favorite announcers ever behind Hawk and Wimpy.
I'm not calling them the best, but my favorites? Fucking hell, yes.
it's the kind of shit where you LOVE it if it's your team, and you loathe it if it's not. but i live in chicago and was raised a die hard Sox fan.
soooooooo....
WAAAAAAAAAAAAY BACK. HE LOOKS UP....YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOOOOARD, YES!
I'm not calling them the best, but my favorites? Fucking hell, yes.
it's the kind of shit where you LOVE it if it's your team, and you loathe it if it's not. but i live in chicago and was raised a die hard Sox fan.
soooooooo....
WAAAAAAAAAAAAY BACK. HE LOOKS UP....YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOOOOOOOOARD, YES!
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
One thing I've noticed that Cubs and Cards fans(and fans of every other team for that matter) can agree on is that the White Sox have the worst announcers in baseball.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
What does my teams performance have to do with your teams horrible announcers?
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Poor Hawn and DJ then. They will be starting their second half slid soon.
arod and jeter threw down?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/324156p-277094c.html
"Did Yankee teammates Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez have a locker-room brawl last week?
The two sluggers mixed it up on June 20, after an errant throw from shortstop Jeter to third baseman A-Rod handed the Yankees a 5-4 loss to the last-place Tampa Bay Devil Rays, according to a TV producer loitering in the clubhouse.
" saw them go at it," the source tells Radaronline.com. "A-Rod walked past Jeter's locker and mumbled something about his throw, then Jeter told him to go [bleep] himself and all hell broke lose. Their teammates were pulling them away from each other.
Says a ball club insider, "Now you have guys like Bernie Williams, who remember winning the World Series, taking Jeter's side, and then you have the [recent] trades, like Tony Womack, taking A-Rod's side."
Two Yankee players told The News they had no knowledge of a fight. And team spokesman Rick Cerone labeled the report an "absolute fantasy," and denied any quarreling among the players."
probably fake since the only media outlet that supposedly saw this was radaronline.com (which seems to be a gossip/celebrity website).
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/324156p-277094c.html
"Did Yankee teammates Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez have a locker-room brawl last week?
The two sluggers mixed it up on June 20, after an errant throw from shortstop Jeter to third baseman A-Rod handed the Yankees a 5-4 loss to the last-place Tampa Bay Devil Rays, according to a TV producer loitering in the clubhouse.
" saw them go at it," the source tells Radaronline.com. "A-Rod walked past Jeter's locker and mumbled something about his throw, then Jeter told him to go [bleep] himself and all hell broke lose. Their teammates were pulling them away from each other.
Says a ball club insider, "Now you have guys like Bernie Williams, who remember winning the World Series, taking Jeter's side, and then you have the [recent] trades, like Tony Womack, taking A-Rod's side."
Two Yankee players told The News they had no knowledge of a fight. And team spokesman Rick Cerone labeled the report an "absolute fantasy," and denied any quarreling among the players."
probably fake since the only media outlet that supposedly saw this was radaronline.com (which seems to be a gossip/celebrity website).
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