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[grandjedi6]

Please Note: Due to upping their primary/caucus dates the Democratic National Committee has striped all delegates from Michigan and Florida. Likewise the Republican National Committee has removed half of the delegates from Florida, Michigan, South Carolina, Wyoming, and New Hampshire

Also, all delegate tallies for candidates use both pledged candidates and superdelegates/unpledged delegates. While the superdelegates/unpledged candidates are officially unpledged, some are still tallied as they have endorsed a candidate. Please keep in mind that all totals are estimated and could potentially change by the Republican and Democratic Conventions

Who are Superdelegates??

-Members of the Democratic National Committee
-The Current Democratic President and Vice-President (if applicable)
-All Democratic members of the United States House of Representatives and Senate
-All Democratic Governors
-All former Democratic Presidents, vice-Presidents, Leaders of the Senate, Speakers of the House, Minority Leaders and chairs of the DNC.

These 795 "superdelegates" are almost 16 percent of the 2,025 delegates (4,049 total) a candidate needs to secure the party's presidential nomination, while officially uncommitted and thus "unreplaceable", can publicly endorse a candidate, adding to his and her total.

Voters select delegates in primaries and caucuses through the country. Pledged delegates reflect the preferences of the voters, but are not actually legally bound to vote for the candidate they are pledged for. However, since candidates may remove delegates whom they feel may be disloyal, pledged delegates generally vote for the candidate they represent.

The Republican National Committee allocates delegates to states and territories in four categories. Three district level delegates are given to states for each of their congressional districts. Ten additional at-large delegates are given to each state regardless of population. States earn additional bonus delegates for having U.S. Senators and governors from the Republican Party, sending a majority-Republican delegation to the U.S. House, maintaining partial or total Republican control of the state legislature, or casting a majority of their 2004 electoral vote for George W. Bush. Finally, each state automatically receives three party delegates: their two RNC delegates and the chairman of the state Republican party. Territories are only eligible to send at-large and party delegates.

Unlike the Democratic Party, which mandates a proportional representation system for delegate selection within a state, the Republican Party has no such restriction. For states with primaries, some states choose to use the "winner-take-all" method to award delegates within a state, while others do winner-take-all within a congressional district, and still others use the proportional process. Unlike the Democratic Party, where pledged delegates support the candidate whom they are pledged, state party by-laws determine whether each delegate is pledged and for how many ballots.

In caucus states, most state parties use a two pronged process. A straw poll, often called a presidential preference poll, is conducted of the attendees at the caucus. The results are released to the media and published on the state party website. Delegates are then elected to the county conventions. It is at the county conventions that delegates are elected to state conventions, and from the state convention to the national convention. At each level, delegates may be bound or unbound to a candidate. If unbound, delegates are not obligated to follow the results of the presidential preference poll. Thus, all estimates of delegates from caucus states are dependent on state law.

Unlike in the Democratic Party, Republican members of Congress (including Senate members, House members, and non-voting delegates), and state governors are not automatically made delegates to the party's national convention, however their endorsements can hold sway on voters in caucuses and primaries.

Each state's two members of the Republican National Committee, and the party chairs of each state and territory are the only automatic delegates to the party's national convention. These superdelegates while officially uncommitted, may also publicly endorse a candidate.

Completed Primaries/Caucuses
Note: * = results not final

January 3

Iowa Caucus (Democrats -- 45 Delegates, Republicans -- 37 Delegates)
--- Obama: 16
--- Clinton: 15
--- Edwards: 14

--- Huckabee: 17
--- Romney: 12
--- Thompson: 3
--- McCain: 3
--- Paul: 2

January 5

Wyoming Caucus (Republican only) (Republicans -- 12 delegates)
--- Romney: 8
--- Thompson: 3
--- Hunter: 1

January 8

New Hampshire Primary (Democrats -- 22 Delegates, Republicans -- 12 Delegates)
--- Clinton: 9
--- Obama: 9
--- Edwards: 4

--- McCain: 7
--- Romney: 4
--- Huckabee: 1

January 15
Michigan Primary (Democrats -- 0 delegates, Republicans -- 30 delegates)
--- Romney: 18
--- McCain: 9
--- Huckabee: 3

January 19
Nevada Caucus (Democrats -- 25 delegates, Republicans -- 31 delegates)
--- Obama: 13
--- Clinton: 12

--- Romney: 17
--- Paul: 4
--- McCain: 4
--- Huckabee: 2
--- Thompson: 2
--- Giuliani: 1
--- Hunter: 1

South Carolina Primary [Republicans only] (Republicans -- 24 delegates)
--- McCain: 19
--- Huckabee: 5

January 26
South Carolina Primary [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 45 delegates)
--- Obama: 25
--- Clinton: 12
--- Edwards: 8

January 29
Florida Primary (Democrats -- 0 delegates, Republicans -- 57 delegates)
--- McCain: 57


February 1-3
Maine Caucus [Republicans only] (Republicans -- 18 delegates)
--- Romney: 10
--- McCain: 4
--- Paul: 3
--- Huckabee: 1

February 5th -- Super Tuesday
February 5

Alabama Primary (Democrats -- 52 delegates, Republicans -- 45 delegates)
--- Obama: 27
--- Clinton: 25

--- Huckabee: 26
--- McCain: 19

Alaska Caucus (Democrats -- 13 delegates, Republicans -- 26 delegates)
--- Obama: 9
--- Clinton: 4

--- Romney: 12
--- Huckabee: 6
--- Paul: 5
--- McCain: 3

American Samoa Caucus [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 3 delegates, Republicans -- 9 delegates)
--- Clinton: 2
--- Obama: 1

Arizona Primary (Democrats -- 56 delegates, Republicans -- 50 delegates)
--- Clinton: 31
--- Obama: 25

---McCain: 50

Arkansas Primary (Democrats -- 35 delegates, Republicans -- 31 delegates)
--- Clinton: 27
--- Obama: 8

--- Huckabee: 29
--- McCain: 1
--- Romney: 1

California Primary (Democrats -- 370 delegates, Republicans -- 170 delegates)
--- Clinton: 207
--- Obama: 163

--- McCain: 158
--- Romney: 12

Colorado Caucus (Democrats -- 55 delegates, Republicans -- 43 delegates) *
--- Obama: 33
--- Clinton: 13

--- Romney: 43

Connecticut Primary (Democrats -- 48 delegates, Republicans -- 27 delegates)
--- Obama: 26
--- Clinton: 22

--- McCain: 27

Delaware Primary (Democrats -- 15 delegates, Republicans -- 18 delegates)
--- Obama: 9
--- Clinton: 6

--- McCain: 18

Georgia Primary (Democrats -- 87 delegates, Republicans -- 72 delegates) *
--- Obama: 59
--- Clinton: 26

--- Huckabee: 48
--- McCain: 9
--- Romney: 3

Idaho Caucus [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 18 delegates)
--- Obama: 15
--- Clinton: 3

Illinois Primary (Democrats -- 153 delegates, Republicans -- 57 delegates)
--- Obama: 104
--- Clinton: 49

--- McCain: 54
--- Romney: 3

Kanasas Caucus [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 32 delegates)
--- Obama: 23
--- Clinton: 9

Massachusetts Primary (Democrats -- 93 delegates, Republicans -- 40 delegates)
--- Clinton: 55
--- Obama: 38

--- Romney: 22
--- McCain: 18

Minnesota Caucus (Democrats -- 72 delegates, Republicans -- 38 delegates)
--- Obama: 48
--- Clinton: 24

--- Romney: 38

Missouri Primary (Democrats -- 72 delegates, Republicans -- 58 delegates)
--- Obama: 36
--- Clinton: 36

--- McCain: 58

Montana Primary [Republican only] (Republicans -- 25 delegates)
--- Romney: 25

New Jersey Primary (Democrats -- 107 delegates, Republicans -- 52 delegates)
--- Clinton: 59
--- Obama: 48

--- McCain: 52

New Mexico Primary [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 26 delegates)
--- Clinton: 13
--- Obama: 12

New York Primary (Democrats -- 232 delegates, Republicans -- 101 delegates)
--- Clinton: 139
--- Obama: 93

--- McCain: 101

North Dakota Caucus (Democrats -- 13 delegates, Republicans -- 23 delegates)
--- Obama: 8
--- Clinton: 5

--- Romney: 8
--- McCain: 5
--- Huckabee: 5
--- Paul: 5

Oklahoma Primary (Democrats -- 38 delegates, Republicans -- 38 delegates)
--- Clinton: 24
--- Obama: 14

--- McCain: 32
--- Huckabee: 6

Tennessee Primary (Democrats -- 68 delegates, Republicans -- 52 delegates) *
--- Clinton: 40
--- Obama: 28

--- Huckabee: 23
--- McCain: 15
--- Romney: 8

Utah Primary (Democrats -- 23 delegates, Republicans -- 36 delegates)
--- Obama: 14
--- Clinton: 9

--- Romney: 36

West Virginia Caucus [Republicans only] (Republicans -- 18 delegates)
--- Huckabee: 18

February 9
Kansas Caucus [Republican only] (Republicans -- 36 delegates)
--- Huckabee: 36

Louisiana Primary (Democrats -- 56 delegates, Republicans -- 44 delegates)
- Since no candidate recieved over 50% of the statewide vote, no Republican candidate will be allocated delegates yet.

--- Obama: 34
--- Clinton: 22

Nebraska Caucus [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 24 delegates)
--- Obama: 16
--- Clinton: 8

Virgin Islands Convention [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 3 delegates)
--- Obama: 3

Washington Caucus (Democrats -- 78 delegates, Republicans -- 18 delegates) *
--- Obama: 52
--- Clinton: 26

February 10
Maine Caucus [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 24 delegates)
--- Obama: 15
--- Clinton: 9

February 12
District of Columbia Primary (Democrats -- 15 delegates, Republicans -- 16 delegates)
--- Obama: 12
--- Clinton: 3

---McCain: 16

Maryland Primary (Democrats -- 70 delegates, Republicans -- 34 delegates)
--- Obama: 43
--- Clinton: 27

--- McCain: 34

Virginia Primary (Democrats -- 83 delegates, Republicans -- 60 delegates)
--- Obama: 54
--- Clinton: 29

--- McCain: 60



Upcoming Primaries/Caucuses

February 5 - February 12
Democrats Abroad Primary [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 7 delegates)

February 16
Guam Caucus [Republican only] (Republicans -- 6 delegates)

February 19
Hawaii Caucus [Democrats only] (Democrats -- 20 delegates)

Washington Primary (Democrats -- n/a, Republicans -- 19 delegates)

Wisconsin Primary (Democrats -- 74 delegates, Republicans -- 37 delegates)

All information has been compiled from a variety of sources including CNN, AP, the Democratic Convention Watch , The Green Papers and various websites of the DNC & RNC

 

[speculawyer]

Holy crap . . . . and we thought the Electoral college was complicated.

 

[Alien Bob]

no wonder people aren't interested in politics

and lol at Kucinich

 

[Socreges]

I really don't understand this shit, and I have put some effort in trying to do so.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Craziness abounds in the nomination process.

Romney leads delegates in Republican side without winning a majorly endorsed state?

Hillary is dominating Obama? I thought Obama would be winning because of Iowa's landslide...man, this is confusing.

 

[jiggle]

can the superdelegates change their commitment?

 

[grandjedi6]

can the superdelegates change their commitment?

Yes but don't bet on it. The superdelegates aren't actually commited yet. However, the ones listed have publically endorsed a candidate. So its rare that they would flip flop without the candidates approval.

Craziness abounds in the nomination process.

Romney leads delegates in Republican side without winning a majorly endorsed state?

Hillary is dominating Obama? I thought Obama would be winning because of Iowa's landslide...man, this is confusing.

Romney won Wyoming and placed second in New Hampshire and Iowa. So its not surprising that he is 1st so far.

Counting only delegation votes from the primaries/caucuses Obama is one delegate ahead of Hillary. However the Clinton machine is a powerful one and has amassed many super delegates. This is one of the reasons why people use to call Hillary a sure thing for the nomination

 

[Teddman]

"Why does Hillary have so many delegates?" you ask? Superdelegates to the rescue! The superdelegate system is basically a way for the National Democratic Committee to override the will of the states' primaries.

Democrats started the superdelegate system in 1984, to give party leaders tighter control over the nominating process.

This was partly in response to the catastrophic defeat of George McGovern, the radical, anti-war demagogue who, in 1972, lost every state in the union except Massachusetts to Richard Nixon.

To prevent such maverick candidates from winning the nomination in future, party leaders rigged the system. State delegates were no longer permitted to nominate presidential candidates on their own. Henceforth party-approved superdelegates would also cast votes.

Superdelegates are party stalwarts, Democrat officials whose loyalties favor party over state. Their number varies from one election to the next. Currently there are 852 superdelegates, including 29 state governors, 232 congressmen, 49 senators, two “shadow” or non-voting senators from the District of Columbia, and 540 Democratic Party leaders and officials of various sorts.

At this year’s Democratic Convention, 4,049 delegates will vote. Hillary must get 2,025 votes to win the nomination. This is the so-called “magic number”. The 852 superdelegates total 42 percent of the magic number. In a close race, their votes could prove decisive.

At this writing, CNN reports that 257 superdelegates have already pledged their votes: of them, 154 (60 percent) have pledged for Hillary; 50 (19 percent) for Barack Obama; and 33 (13 percent) for John Edwards.

Should Hillary falter in the primaries, the superdelegates will likely come to her rescue and nominate her anyway.

- Thought Merchant: The Fix is in for Hillary

 

[Teddman]

Craziness abounds in the nomination process.

Romney leads delegates in Republican side without winning a majorly endorsed state

He won Wyoming.

 

[AlteredBeast]

true, and I guess he is still far from the 1000 that he will need to get the nomination.

 

[grandjedi6]

Holy crap . . . . and we thought the Electoral college was complicated.

The reason I made this thread was actually in response to all the confusion in the New Hampshire thread.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

I swear to god if Clinton wins overall there will be no hope left in American politics.

 

[Battersea Power Station]

Wait, so Hilary is already the nominee? If there's virtually no chance for the positions to change, why don't all media outlets make that clearer?

 

[grandjedi6]

Wait, so Hilary is already the nominee? If there's virtually no chance for the positions to change, why don't all media outlets make that clearer?

She's not. she only has 183 of 2025 needed delegates

 

[Battersea Power Station]

Oh, I stupidly misread something.

 

[Dan]

This superdelegate thing sucks and serves only insider interests.

I suppose at some point it becomes important who 3rd and 4th places would instruct their delegates to vote for, yes?

 

[grandjedi6]

This superdelegate thing sucks and serves only insider interests.

I suppose at some point it becomes important who 3rd and 4th places would instruct their delegates to vote for, yes?

Yeah, Richardson is definetly waiting to make deal. Though Edwards stayed until the end in the 2004 election, Dean didn't release his delegates and I don't think Kucinich ever stopped running for the 2004 primary.

 

[jett]

"Why does Hillary have so many delegates?" you ask? Superdelegates to the rescue! The superdelegate system is basically a way for the National Democratic Committee to override the will of the states' primaries.

- Thought Merchant: The Fix is in for Hillary

Man that superedelegate stuff is kind of bullshit.

 

[Souldriver]

GO GRAVEL!!!!!!!! :lol

 

[JCX]

Since republicans still have delagates in Michigan, should I not even bother voting for a democrat?

 

[grandjedi6]

Since republicans still have delagates in Michigan, should I not even bother voting for a democrat?

Well the popular vote could add to a candidate's momentum

 

[JayDubya]

Man that superedelegate stuff is kind of bullshit.

Pretty much. So is the national committees stripping delegates.

Having a de facto two-party system for so long has made both parties fairly shit-tastic in terms of dealing with people and even whole states that don't toe the line.

 

[ToxicAdam]

The two party system is horseshit and needs to be destroyed.

 

[radiuhm]

And here I thought it was a real close race between Obama and Clinton, where have these numbers been CNN! Politics is confusing.

 

[Triumph]

It would be awesome if Obama had a slight lead but the super delegates gave the nomination to Hillary at the convention. Hopefully it would be a replay of Chicago 68 all over again.

 

[harSon]

Bull to the shit.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

<3 the Hillary picture :lol

 

[ToyMachine228]

This whole super delegate thing is ridiculous. Those people should get one vote just like everyone else. The fact that we know these "super delegates" have already pledged themself to a candidate is ridiculous. How many of those super delegates are voting based on THEIR personal interest because Hillary or whatever other candidate has told them that they'll work with them on their given concern. Ridiculous. How many super delegates are there in total?

 

[whytemyke]

let's fucking riot! BURN THE SYSTEM! BURN IT ALL DOOOOWWWWWNNNNNNNN!!!!


WHYTEMYKE FOR PREZIDENT YO! in my first act of Lord High RUler, I hearby bequeath GAF mods with tasers and this NSA list of banned members home addresses. And in my second act, I bequeath IGN unto Isiah Thomas for management, and a government contract with Sony to make sure that they don't go bankrupt before MGS4 comes out.


Oh yeah, and Hideo Kojima works for the Pentagon now.
















this post took an awkward turn after my riot joke....

 

[McFly]

This whole super delegate thing is ridiculous.

This whole election is ridiculous. Some absolutely batshit insane candidates, Diebold stealing votes already, "change", "change", "change" from everyone, news channels excluding candidates, deleting polls, lies from all sides ... totally ridicolous! And than of course there's the possibility that Bush will not go away if there's a new terrorist attack on America or war with Iran ... this could very well be an election for nothing. Totally ridiculous!

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Oh yeah, and Hideo Kojima works for the Pentagon now.

I can support this

 

[Tamanon]

This whole election is ridiculous. Some absolutely batshit insane candidates, Diebold stealing votes already, "change", "change", "change" from everyone, news channels excluding candidates, deleting polls, lies from all sides ... totally ridicolous! And than of course there's the possibility that Bush will not go away if there's a new terrorist attack on America or war with Iran ... this could very well be an election for nothing. Totally ridiculous!

Whoa dude, switch to decaf.

And the whole superdelegate thing seems to disenfranchise voters, especially in a close race like this. Basically if the party splits 50/50 or even 45/55, it looks like they have the power to decide things instead.

 

[Dolphin]

I really can't overstate my hatred for Hillary Clinton. If she makes the nomination, I'm voting third party. Also, thanks for disenfranchising us Michiganders Dems.

 

[grandjedi6]

And here I thought it was a real close race between Obama and Clinton, where have these numbers been CNN! Politics is confusing.

It is a close race, in polls and regular delegates. But Superdelegates have given Hillary the advantage.

This whole super delegate thing is ridiculous. Those people should get one vote just like everyone else. The fact that we know these "super delegates" have already pledged themself to a candidate is ridiculous. How many of those super delegates are voting based on THEIR personal interest because Hillary or whatever other candidate has told them that they'll work with them on their given concern. Ridiculous. How many super delegates are there in total?

There are 852 superdelegates and 266 have unofficially endorsed a candidate so far.

Whoa dude, switch to decaf.

And the whole superdelegate thing seems to disenfranchise voters, especially in a close race like this. Basically if the party splits 50/50 or even 45/55, it looks like they have the power to decide things instead.

Yep, thats why the democrats created them. Sadly, the only people who can eliminate this process would be the democrats themselves.

Superdelegates are basically any democrat in power. Congress, govenors, DNC, they are the superdelegates.

 

[grandjedi6]

Latest Changes
-Hillary Clinton gained 7 Superdelegates, giving her a combined total of 190
-Obama gained 25 Superdelegates, giving him a combined total of 103
-Edwards lost 1 Superdelegate because North Carolina Congressman G.K. Butterfield bailed out

-Romney gained 18 delegates from the Michigan Primary
-McCain gained 9 delegates from the Michigan Primary
-Huckabee gained 3 delegates from the Michigan Primary

 

[perfectchaos007]

Latest Changes
-Hillary Clinton gained 7 Superdelegates, giving her a combined total of 190
-Obama gained 25 Superdelegates, giving him a combined total of 103
-Edwards lost 1 Superdelegate because North Carolina Congressman G.K. Butterfield bailed out

-Romney gained 12 delegates from the Michigan Primary
-McCain gained 9 delegates from the Michigan Primary
-Huckabee gained 3 delegates from the Michigan Primary

That means theres still 6 more delegates to be distributed among the republicans in Michigan. Paul better get at least one of them for his impressive 4th place finish

 

[scorcho]

indeed - that one delegate for Paul could end up turning his entire campaign around!

 

[ElectricBlue187]

And than of course there's the possibility that Bush will not go away if there's a new terrorist attack on America or war with Iran ... this could very well be an election for nothing. Totally ridiculous!

do you think we will make him Emperor Bush? :lol

 

[APF]

Anyone who thinks Bush is going to hold another term needs intensive therapy.

 

[harSon]

Anyone who thinks Bush is going to hold another term needs intensive therapy.

Coming from the person who thinks the only thing separating Bush and Obama is skin color :lol

 

[grandjedi6]

That means theres still 6 more delegates to be distributed among the republicans in Michigan. Paul better get at least one of them for his impressive 4th place finish

He can't. You can only get delegates in Michigan if you had at least 15% of the statewide vote, which Paul did not. So only Romney, McCain and Huckabee are eligable for the delegates. The delegates most likely will end up in Romney's hands.

 

[Stoney Mason]

indeed - that one delegate for Paul could end up turning his entire campaign around!

Better than Rudy so far

 

[grandjedi6]

Better than Rudy so far

Rudy fucked himself over so much. A year ago he was the media favorite for the Republican nominee, but now he has 0 delegates, polls in the single digits and has no momentum. Even if his Florida strategy works, it'll be too little, too late to stop the other 3 from dominating Super Tuesday

I'm happy with the photo I picked for him though, it ended up symbolizing his current situation quite well

 

[Stoney Mason]

Rudy fucked himself over so much. A year ago he was the media favorite for the Republican nominee, but now he has 0 delegates, polls in the single digits and has no momentum. Even if his Florida strategy works, it'll be too little, too late to stop the other 3 from dominating Super Tuesday

I'm happy with the photo I picked for him though, it ended up symbolizing his current situation quite well

Well to be fair it was his only real hope. He was never going to place in places like Iowa certainly and also New Hampshire to a degree.

And as divided as the Republican base is he still has a longshot chance at it.

 

[Souldriver]

:lol at Giuliani's pic. It's like he knows he's last atm.

 

[Stoney Mason]

Oh yeah. And Rudy has 1 delegate currently! Not Zero!!

Get the facts straight!!!!

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#val=R

 

[grandjedi6]

Oh yeah. And Rudy has 1 delegate currently! Not Zero!!

Get the facts straight!!!!

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#val=R

That is a unpledged delegate, not a pledged delegate. CNN is just estimating that one of Maine's Republican party heads on going to vote for Rudy no matter what. However Maine's unpledged delegates don't do anything officially until Maine's convention on May 3rd. Also, unlike the Democrats Superdelegates, Republican unpledged delegates tend to go with the state's wish. I'm not sure why CNN is guessing Rudy to get one delegate, especially since no other source is even trying to guess the unpledged delegates since they know how unreliable it is

 

[AlteredBeast]

your michigan link shows the updated delegates for Romney, McCain, and Huckster.

Your numbers and OP should be updated as a result.

 

[grandjedi6]

your michigan link shows the updated delegates for Romney, McCain, and Huckster.

Your numbers and OP should be updated as a result.

My numbers are not based soley on CNN. I have compiled them from a variety of sources. CNN's numbers are just an estimate and are not fact yet

 

[AlteredBeast]

Oh, my apologies, then. In that case, your Iowa caucus Republican list has Huck with 37 instead of 17 as it should be.

When and how do we find out what the delegate numbers are from each state?