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2013-14 NBA Dec |OT| The Nets are the Knicks of Basketball
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Psychological Intellect
Banned
Don't you like Melo? I don't think the Knicks will trade him though.
Is the deal Asik for Hawes(isn't he in a contract year) and Young? Not too bad.
Well, Asik won't mess up Philly's tank this year. sucks for Omer since he'll likely be backing up Nerlens in a year or two.
But I thought Melo was easier to build around than LeBron, Giri
Oh. I don't have a problem with Melo. But he just isn't what this team needs. He's in a win now state. Suns are realistically still rebuilding, they're going to come down to earth soon and loose a bunch of games in a row.
Having Melo on the team, even if he did re-sign, would lead to a bunch of win now trades, that just aren't needed.
Suns need to be ultra realistic and step back if they did that trade and look at the team.
Even if they didn't give up one of bledsoe/dragic the team would be
Bledsoe
Dragic
Melo
Frye
Plumlee.
Bled/Dragic/Melo all need the ball.
And if they did give up lets say Dragic, That would mean Gerald Green starting.
It would mean no more development chances for Alex Len too, and it would stifle the development of the Morris Twins.
My problem isn't with getting Melo, it's just that its a horrible trade for where the Suns are at now. They need to accept that they're rebuilding, they're still in development, they're a long way from finished, and are in no real position to go win now mode.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Knicks gave Toronto 3 picks for Bargs. I wouldn't put it past them to not grab Dragic.
Dominican Power
Member
Give us The Dragon.
They'd keep one of them, There's literally no point to the trade if both go.
This would be my wish list for players to target, and yeah, i understand that all of these are players everyone would want, but they make most sense to where the team is, to me.
Stephenson, Granger, Barnes, Kanter, Gallo. al Horford
Not saying they could realistically get any of them, but if they're going to trade, that would be my preferred target list.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
You forgot the most impressive part. he's shooting 68% on free throws.
Slightly better than Asik.
I'd almost put the Dragic turnovers as an upside.
Gah, the suns PG's stat lines are absurd, but also eerily similar.
Dragic
19.0 ppg, .494 fg%, .348 3pt%, .798 ft%, 6.2apg, 3rpg 1spg (downside is 2.6 T/O)
Bledsoe
19.2 ppg, .493 fg%, .345 3pt%, .802 ft%, 6.3apg, 4.1rpg, 1.7spg (downside 3.4 T/O)
Dragic is also 5th in the league on drives to the basket, and Bledsoe is 15th
Dragic
19.0 ppg, .494 fg%, .348 3pt%, .798 ft%, 6.2apg, 3rpg 1spg (downside is 2.6 T/O)
Bledsoe
19.2 ppg, .493 fg%, .345 3pt%, .802 ft%, 6.3apg, 4.1rpg, 1.7spg (downside 3.4 T/O)
Dragic is also 5th in the league on drives to the basket, and Bledsoe is 15th
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Knicks would be stupid to target Dragic over Bledsoe. Dragic will be getting long in the tooth when their hypothetically drafted players begin to develop...so they'll probably target Dragic.
They are also one of the only 3 teams in the West that are currently losing to the East. Quite a feat.
I am hoping Mitch is intentionally letting Antoni to continue to misuse Pau and reduce his minutes so they can low ball him next year and hire a proper coach.
That would have him ranked 23rd in ast/to ratio amongst pg's. Not great.
The Frankman
Banned
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darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Teams wouldn't trade everything away for him in the first place...
Although they should shop him out there. There might be some teams interested in acquiring him merely as a rental for the rest of the year with the assumption they'll lose him in FA.
And at the very least hes got value as an expiring contract.
Although they should shop him out there. There might be some teams interested in acquiring him merely as a rental for the rest of the year with the assumption they'll lose him in FA.
And at the very least hes got value as an expiring contract.
The Frankman
Banned
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Which is why the Knicks should shop him out there.
Might be worth taking on some money if they get a draft pick or two out of it considering how many they have right now.
Would be Dwightmare all over again? Doesn't he mean Melogeddon? Melo did that shit first, only wanting to sign with Knicks lol.
That word gave me cancer.
The Frankman
Banned
Well there goes the last defensive frontcourt player. Wonderful.
Actually Carmelo wanted to be traded with NY a prime target. He was willing to goto the Nets also (which of course got Dolan involved). Dwight's was infinitely longer/convoluted.
Hell, the Dwightmare was worse than The Decision.
Je5usPiece
Banned
I'm expecting Bynum to have a good game tonight, Heat have no answer for him honestly (assuming LeBron doesnt guard him)
The Frankman
Banned
not to mention D'Antoni is more willing to play guys if they'll put up effort/score. That's extremely damning to Woodson because initially he seemed to be a guy who would play guys based on effort/defend. D'Antoni loved Shumpert because his dribble-drive game as a rookie broke down defenses and although he couldn't finish for shit, he was good at making a simple pass off the dribble.
If Martin wasn't hurt I would've been VERY interested in monitoring JR's minutes tonight. The way Woodson stared him him made me think that just maybe JR broke Woodson. Now JR has to start tonight.
Je5usPiece
Banned
How was it worse? The Magic at least traded him away, the Cavs got strung out and received nothing in return, at least Dwight shedded some light on the fact he didn't want to be there.
The Frankman
Banned
... are we honestly going to go over the Dwightmare again? You make it sound unbelievably simple.
Yep. As much as I hate Pringles, the Lakers would be much harder to watch if somebody like Woodson was the coach right now. As least I know the 5 copies of Nick Young on the team will make a bunch of ridiculous shots.
Je5usPiece
Banned
I understand the whole concept of it, and what went on, I'm talking in terms of what the end result was...Howard expressed he didn't want to stay in Orlando, however LeBron did not, and held the Cavs out to dry in a process that he already knew would be the outcome.
CreepingFear
Member
Deng's coming back to ruin the tank, then again Hinrich is out(shocker, I know).
should trade rose to the suns for dragic.
Not even close
Nah Mcd and horny are going to go hard at hayward
The Frankman
Banned
Dwightmare lasted over a year and got multiple coaches/front office canned. Also Dwight half-assed in during that process on the court. Then the "I'll stay-no I won't I was tricked-I might stay" shit.
Just hoping we don't get blown out.
We're coining in playing our best, most confident basketball of the season.
Should be a good game.
Three pointers are wet, but Wade is beastin so far.
So nice to have real Kyrie back.
I can reallysee it. Still doesn't fix our front line, but bledsoe / hayward is a good start in the back court.
Syphon Filter
Member
melo beastin on the boards.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
bron just did that cheap 2k move where you post up then spin baseline for a dunk
CreepingFear
Member
lol, I'm not sure any team wants him after the last two injuries combined with that contract.