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[Later Alligator]

FRS and BRZ are nice enough cars but pretty gutless

Will be interesting to see the numbers between the gt500 and the vette. Though it sucks that neither have a manual tranny as an option

Interesting that the new z4 errrrr I mean Supra is the same price

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I'm sorry, whenever I see a Corvette all I see is a Michael Bay Transformer car. They are so god damn ugly.

The Porsches are so much better looking by comparison. Less ostentatious because they know what they are and don't need to try and overcompensate with the body styling.

 

[Patrick S.]

I currently drive an LC500 but I've owned 3 corvettes in the past. When the Z version comes out I'll be buying this for sure. I'm actually stunned at how cheap this car is. 60k is a steal. It's going to crush mustang gt350 sales, R8 sales, cayman sales. It's goijg to take sales from any sports car in the 50k-150k range. The Supra is completely fucked.


Corvettes are 100% designed for the track. Far more than an FRs/BRZ. Just pull the seat and get a real track seat with set low profile mount if you're too tall. You can also get custom stuff done. I know taller people than you that own corvettes. The Z specifically is a more serious track car than even a GTR.

That's only in the US market, though. Here in a Germany, I can count the number of Corvettes I see every year with the fingers on one hand, and that is living in a place that has a few "car poser" locations. People just won't buy an American car for that money, and rather buy the Audi or BMW they can afford, I guess.

 

[Mohonky]

There's something about the way it looks that looks off to me. But I haven't liked the look of most mid engine cars of late anyway, I think it's only really Lambo getting the looks right atm.

 

[Patrick S.]

There's something about the way it looks that looks off to me. But I haven't liked the look of most mid engine cars of late anyway, I think it's only really Lambo getting the looks right atm.

I wouldn't be surprised if VAG have some sort of copyright on their wedge form, sorta like Porsche has their design of the 911 protected. Or had, until they lost a EU lawsuit a short while ago.

 

[Dontero]

They could easily slap $100k on top of those $60k and people would still buy it.

I still cen't get why they fucking up rear so much since C5. Those 4 big red menacing stoplights are fucking awesome.
Instead they go for those retarded stripes...

 

[Patrick S.]

I still cen't get why they fucking up rear so much since C5. Those 4 big red menacing stoplights are fucking awesome.
Instead they go for those retarded stripes...

That's crazy talk. C7 rear lights are fapping material

 

[Valonquar]

The pains of being 6'7. I can't fit in this shit.

 

[Patrick S.]

The pains of being 6'7. I can't fit in this shit.

You can take the roof off

 

[gatti-man]

That's only in the US market, though. Here in a Germany, I can count the number of Corvettes I see every year with the fingers on one hand, and that is living in a place that has a few "car poser" locations. People just won't buy an American car for that money, and rather buy the Audi or BMW they can afford, I guess.

Audi is trash. Well high end Audi is trash anyways. The lower end stuff is ok but my RS7 was a trash pile of problems and while I was at the dealer often I'd see R8 owners lighting them up as well. BMW is the same. Cars designed to pick your pocket. But they do have status.

What decent Audi or bmw can you buy for 60k that holds a candle to the c8? You'd be in the 100k territory for both. But people have biases like that other guy so they buy inferior to fit their biases I guess.

I'm sorry, whenever I see a Corvette all I see is a Michael Bay Transformer car. They are so god damn ugly.

The Porsches are so much better looking by comparison. Less ostentatious because they know what they are and don't need to try and overcompensate with the body styling.

Tell that to the GT3 lol. But you're right the 911 is the pinnacle but once again it's 300% more for a 911 that hangs with the base c8.

My dream car is a 911 turbo and I could swing it but after my rs7 experience I'm very gun shy about buying high end imports.

 

[Uhtred]

Well the Supra just became irrelevant.

 

[gatti-man]

Well the Supra just became irrelevant.

Yeah that car is complete fucked

 

[Patrick S.]

Audi is trash. Well high end Audi is trash anyways. The lower end stuff is ok but my RS7 was a trash pile of problems and while I was at the dealer often I'd see R8 owners lighting them up as well. BMW is the same. Cars designed to pick your pocket. But they do have status.

What decent Audi or bmw can you buy for 60k that holds a candle to the c8? You'd be in the 100k territory for both. But people have biases like that other guy so they buy inferior to fit their biases I guess.

American cars just don't have any market presence here. German people's oppinion of America cars is still: high fuel consumption, unreliable, bad quality, interiors that fall apart, good in straight line but every corner is potential death, leaf springs. To be fair, that was true for the longest time, too. Today's cars are probably very different, but that image is just etched into people's minds.

My only real own experience with American cars is a Jeep Cherokee I used to own. Needed a torque converter and Chrysler Spain (that was on Tenerife) couldn't get it because the car I had was some sort of special edition only sold in Switzerland, IIRC, and they didn't have the microfiche for that specific variant. Yes, that was in a time where computers and electronic parts catalogues were a thing. They were too stupid to just lift the car and notice that the car had a TH400 transmission, which is like the most common transmission around, and deduce what converter I needed from there.

Several people I know had had similar experiences with American cars, and of yourse next time you are looking for a car you remember that and buy something not American.

Also, Audis aren't trash. You might just have gotten a lemon. BMWs nowadays are shit, that is known.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

The pains of being 6'7. I can't fit in this shit.

Cut off your legs and throw in the back.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You can take the roof off

You laugh, but we used to see Shaquille O'Neal rolling around in his Viper all the time wearing goggles because his head stuck over the windshield.

 

[Patrick S.]

You laugh, but we used to see Shaquille O'Neal rolling around in his Viper all the time wearing goggles because his head stuck over the windshield.

Haha, awesome

 

[gatti-man]

American cars just don't have any market presence here. German people's oppinion of America cars is still: high fuel consumption, unreliable, bad quality, interiors that fall apart, good in straight line but every corner is potential death, leaf springs. To be fair, that was true for the longest time, too. Today's cars are probably very different, but that image is just etched into people's minds.

My only real own experience with American cars is a Jeep Cherokee I used to own. Needed a torque converter and Chrysler Spain (that was on Tenerife) couldn't get it because the car I had was some sort of special edition only sold in Switzerland, IIRC, and they didn't have the microfiche for that specific variant. Yes, that was in a time where computers and electronic parts catalogues were a thing. They were too stupid to just lift the car and notice that the car had a TH400 transmission, which is like the most common transmission around, and deduce what converter I needed from there.

Several people I know had had similar experiences with American cars, and of yourse next time you are looking for a car you remember that and buy something not American.

Also, Audis aren't trash. You might just have gotten a lemon. BMWs nowadays are shit, that is known.

Audi's statistically are trash. They rank among the lowest in reliability and trust me I saw a ton of exasperated owners during my stay in Audi land lol. Also their parts are insanely expensive. Race brakes shouldn't cost 5k to service when Chevy does it for 1-2k. Same thing with tune ups etc. from 0-20k miles the Audi ate up over 6 grand in service charges. Completely insane for what it needed.

Leaf springs can be great when used correctly. Both my Z06s stock suspension handled better than any Audi I've driven including the R8. More neutral especially in a race environment. The RS7 handles like a tank but with brute force grip thanks to its really amazing awd system. You can't hate on a suspension that beats most other cars including exotics around every race track in the world.

Just based on my ownership the vette is incredibly reliable. It's interior is ass but doesn't fall apart or rattle just really spartan and cheap. It's why I bought the RS7 to begin with but couldn't hang with how finicky it was and the repairs if not for warranty would have cost me over 10 grand in a year and a half. Bad 02 sensors, some cam shaft part went bad requiring the whole front end to come off, random transmission codes, drivers side interior door handle broke, it was ridiculous.