34 year old woman goes to sleep, wakes up as her 15 year old self.

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IamMikeside said:
Why say 5 in 100,000, not 1 in 20,000?
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People per 100,000 is a normal measure in epidemiology.
It makes it easier to compare figures.

Though in my wholly unprofessional opinion, this case sounds less like transient global amnesia and more like bullshit.
 
InaudibleWhispa said:
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Holy shit, I knew I heard about that!
 
Homeopathy business?

That alone would make be very very suspicious of this.

Hmmmm, my fake medicine business is failing, maybe a fake medical story can get me some publicity and get on the talk show circuit....
 
Operations said:
Isn´t amnesia about the incapacity of establishing new memories? This sounds like something else.
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They are two type, retro and antero grade. Antero Is inability to form short term hence no new memory. While retro is forgetting preexisting memories.
 
WrathOfOtaibah said:
Bitch is lying.
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GAF is such a depressing place at times.

I think it was Stephen Fry that lamented we've now reached a point in society where nobody believes anything they cannot do or discover for themselves. Their ability to learn and empathise with others has been almost completely eroded.
 
I've had moments when I've forgotten common shit. Like my senior year of high school long and, I forgot my locker combination like 5 months into the year out of nowhere. Funny thing is I think I could still do it if I unconsciously just kind of did it out of habit. I can imagine at some point being so stressed you mind just blanks out.
 
Furret said:
Now try reading the article you've just linked to, and then explaining what it has to do with the story in the OP.
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According to the Mayo Clinic:

mayoclinic.com said:
Transient global amnesia is a sudden, temporary episode of memory loss that can't be attributed to a more common neurological condition, such as epilepsy or stroke.

During an episode of transient global amnesia, your recall of recent events simply vanishes, so you can't remember where you are or how you got there. You may also draw a blank when asked to remember things that happened a day, a month or even a year ago. With transient global amnesia, you do remember who you are, and recognize the people you know well, but that doesn't make your memory loss any less disturbing.

Fortunately, transient global amnesia is rare, seemingly harmless and unlikely to happen again. Episodes are usually short-lived, and afterward your memory is fine.
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mayoclinic.com said:
Necessary symptoms for diagnosis
Doctors base a diagnosis of transient global amnesia on the following signs and symptoms:

Sudden onset of memory loss, verified by a witness
Retention of personal identity despite memory loss
Normal cognition (ability to recognize and name familiar objects and follow simple directions, for example)
Absence of signs indicating damage to a particular area of the brain (limb paralysis, involuntary movement or impaired word recognition, for example)
Duration of no more than 24 hours
Gradual return of memory
No evidence of seizures during the period of amnesia
No history of active epilepsy or recent head injury
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mayoclinic.com said:
Episodes of transient global amnesia last only six hours, on average, and there is no lasting damage. When an episode is over, you remember nothing that happened while your memory was impaired, and you might not recall several hours beforehand. Otherwise, though, your memory is fine.
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So we have this snake oil salesman claiming that she dropped 19 years worth of memories near-permanently with no physical trauma, and was only able to piece the story of her life back together using journals and second-hand accounts. She also has no idea who her 11-year old son is, nor does she recognize familiar objects like iPods and Segways and Wiis.

Either this is a misdiagnosis or she's lying through her teeth. Gee, I wonder?
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
According to the Mayo Clinic:







So we have this snake oil salesman claiming that she dropped 19 years worth of memories near-permanently with no physical trauma, and was only able to piece the story of her life back together using journals and second-hand accounts. She also has no idea who her 11-year old son is, nor does she recognize familiar objects like iPods and Segways and Wiis.

Either this is a misdiagnosis or she's lying through her teeth. Gee, I wonder?
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OK, that's nice. But the link you originally posted was about repressed memories, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the OP.

I don't know what the Mayo Clinic is (is mayonnaise really much of a cure-all?) but the Wikipedia article suggests no controversy over the existence of transient global amnesia.

Whether she runs a homoeopathy business or not is irrelevant to the story.
 
Furret said:
GAF is such a depressing place at times.

I think it was Stephen Fry that lamented we've now reached a point in society where nobody believes anything they cannot do or discover for themselves. Their ability to learn and empathise with others has been almost completely eroded.
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I would prefer this scenario over just being so naive that you would blindly believe such a story that raises so many flags.



Furret said:
I don't know what the Mayo Clinic is (is mayonnaise really much of a cure-all?) but the Wikipedia article suggests no controversy over the existence of transient global amnesia.
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I don't think the question is if TGA exists, but whether it fits to this story.
From your wiki link:

"If the condition lasts longer than 24 hours, it is not considered TGA by definition."
"TGA is most common in people between age 56 and 75, with the average age of a person experiencing TGA being approximately 62."



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Furret said:
GAF is such a depressing place at times.

I think it was Stephen Fry that lamented we've now reached a point in society where nobody believes anything they cannot do or discover for themselves. Their ability to learn and empathise with others has been almost completely eroded.
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http://www.stephenfry.com/2010/09/16/dailymailhate/
I suppose the proudest thing I own is this badge, one of a very limited collection, given to me by the warm and wonderful Phill Jupitus. Anyone who can wear it can think of themselves of flying a flag of freedom, of having been awarded a medal struck for decency, fairness, honesty and what is right and morally good.

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Proudly wearing this badge today

Sometimes, I must confess, I can get a little hurt when that shrieky weaselly little bourgeois tabloid is mean to me, which I believe is very often. I don’t read it of course: like anyone of education or sense or moral decency I wouldn’t have such a purulent creepy production in the house. Nonetheless, by the osmosis of twitter and well-intentioned cabbies I sometimes get to hear of some spiteful snide remark or other and naturally I can be upset.

Today’s headline and the leader inside however actually made me genuinely guffaw and wriggle with delight. It is the final proof, if proof were needed, that the Daily Mail is not just actually wicked (intentionally, knowingly lying) but actually now quite, quite mad. In the name (it must suppose) of morality, spirituality, goodness, kindness, sweetness and honesty it intentionally, knowingly twists, distorts, misrepresents, smears and calumniates. Will their editor and subeditors go to heaven? Is god pleased with them? Have they done a good deed? Is this their advertisement for the religious way? To lie?
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I would love to hear Stephens opinion on the use of that quote when applied to a story from The Daily Mail.
 
SolidusDave said:
I would prefer this scenario over just being so naive that you would blindly believe such a story that raises so many flags.
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Then you're an idiot and a fool.

Unless there is anyone here that is an expert in clinical neurology there is no reason to doubt, other than your own cynicism.

Personally I have no idea whether it is, or could be true, but I'd be interested in finding out rather than just assuming that because I personally find it hard to believe it must be false.
 
Furret said:
GAF is such a depressing place at times.

I think it was Stephen Fry that lamented we've now reached a point in society where nobody believes anything they cannot do or discover for themselves. Their ability to learn and empathise with others has been almost completely eroded.
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She runs a homeopathy business, so you cant blame us for taking this whole thing with a grain of salt. Stephen Fry understands fully the value of skepticism.
 
Furret said:
Then you're an idiot and a fool.

Unless there is anyone here that is an expert in clinical neurology there is no reason to doubt, other than your own cynicism.

Personally I have no idea whether it is, or could be true, but I'd be interested in finding out rather than just assuming that because I personally find it hard to believe it must be false.
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again, from your wiki link:

"TGA is most common in people between age 56 and 75, with the average age of a person experiencing TGA being approximately 62."

and more importantly:
"If the condition lasts longer than 24 hours, it is not considered TGA by definition."

plus yeah, the already mentioned homeopathy + no income + daily mail news article to promote her book
 
Furret said:
OK, that's nice. But the link you originally posted was about repressed memories, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the OP.

I don't know what the Mayo Clinic is (is mayonnaise really much of a cure-all?) but the Wikipedia article suggests no controversy over the existence of transient global amnesia.

Whether she runs a homoeopathy business or not is irrelevant to the story.
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The link I posted was trying to point out that many diagnoses of stress/trauma-related permanent amnesia (which the OP story tries to use as an explanation for her memory loss, with the failure of her marriage/business/schoolwork) are largely a fabrication caused by flawed science.

TGA is a real condition, but it's called "transient" for a reason, it's temporary. It comes back in less than a day's time.

Sudden memory loss is usually the sign of a underlying neurological disorder or neural trauma. Persistent and permanent memory loss is usually the sign of a serious medical condition, like a stroke or Alzheimers or multiple sclerosis (loss of myelin or dead neurons). Your brain could not simply "turn off" 19 years of information without turning your mind into a simpering mush, no more than you could cram 19 years worth of memories into 3 years of studying.
 
Furret said:
GAF is such a depressing place at times.

I think it was Stephen Fry that lamented we've now reached a point in society where nobody believes anything they cannot do or discover for themselves. Their ability to learn and empathise with others has been almost completely eroded.
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That is a funny way of trying to turn gullibility into a virtue.

Glad you equate being skeptical with a lack of empathy.
 
I agree with Furret. There is no way I would trust a link from this so-called "Mayo Clinic."

Why not Ketchup or Mustard Clinic?

lololol
 
Adam Blade said:
I agree with Furret. There is no way I would trust a link from this so-called "Mayo Clinic."

Why not Ketchup or Mustard Clinic?

lololol
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Don't badmouth ketchup clinic. It's one of the world leaders in hamburgerology. Also only criticize this if you're a hamburgerologist.
 
The doctors treating her obviously haven't looked at the big guns, a 10−60 solution would do the trick...

Convenient for her that she forgot she was a despicable scam artist. I can't believe health funds in Australia actually pay on this shit. I wonder if any GAFfers believe in homeopathy?
 
I liked 13 Going On 30! :P

In real life though, uh, I can't imagine how shocking it would be. I mean, you would probably think you're still dreaming when you first see some of that stuff.
 
Sutton Dagger said:
Convenient for her that she forgot she was a despicable scam artist. I can't believe health funds in Australia actually pay on this shit. I wonder if any GAFfers believe in homeopathy?
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Not sure about that, but in an old thread we did have some GAFfers ignorant as to what the difference was between herbal medicine and homeopathic medicine.
 
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