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[93xfan]

That gen felt like a 3 way tie. First gen i went multi platform . Hi lights include:

Socom 1 and 2
Mario Sunshine
Halo 1 and 2
Metroid Prime 1 and 2
Ninja Gaiden
Ratchet and Clank 2 and 3
Resident Evil Remake
Final Fantasy X and XII
Beyond Good and Evil
SSX trilogy
THPS 3 and 4
Wind Waker
ICO
Shadow of the Colossus

 

[Romulus]

Obviously Xbox was the more capable. It was big, ugly, cost MS a fortune and was an off the shelf PC that released more than a year and half after PS2.

The GameCube was impressive because it was a tiny unit.

Alot of that was the harddrive and housing. The hdd was unquie to xbox. But at the time, it took up alot of room, although it paid off during game development.

Also, the larger disc drive because it had full DVDs.

 

[Mr.ODST]

Remember being fully playstation and nintendo until my dad bought an Xbox, played Halo then was intrigued, played Brute force etc and just loved the console from then on, when Xbox Live released I was blew away and Halo 2 started my career and love for online shooters and never looked back.

Even though I love JRPG's etc I think this is why Xbox always holds a special likeness in me and I cant hold back even when the PS4 is better overall

 

[Thirty7ven]

Alot of that was the harddrive and housing. The hdd was unquie to xbox. But at the time, it took up alot of room, although it paid off during game development.

Also, the larger disc drive because it had full DVDs.

It's a bit of an underrated console. I had a lot of fun with it. KoTor, Chaos Theory, Halo 1 remain two of my favorite games ever.

 

[Romulus]

It's a bit of an underrated console. I had a lot of fun with it. KoTor, Chaos Theory, Halo 1 remain two of my favorite games ever.

Yup. Great games. Kotor and the Star Wars games that gen were great. I especially like Republic Commando. Great FPS.

Another thing is people think about the Xbox was just off the shelf PC parts, which is partly true. But the GPU was highly customized, to the point where it's still more difficult to emulate versus GameCube, and even ps2. Gamecube is actually a breeze.

 

[Vawn]

6'th gen hardware wars: Game Cube vs Xbox OG vs PS2 vs Dreamcast?

Xbox - 24 million
GameCube - 22 million
PlayStation 2 - 155 million
Dreamcast - 9 million

 

[Romulus]

6'th gen hardware wars: Game Cube vs Xbox OG vs PS2 vs Dreamcast?

Xbox - 24 million
GameCube - 22 million
PlayStation 2 - 155 million
Dreamcast - 9 million

Yep.

Sony was just a juggernaut in marketing, not just in spending budget but the quality of the campaign. Not to mention, they were a proven powerhouse. Sony install base was magnitudes larger than Sega, Nintendo, and of course, Xbox was zero. Even combined, Sony had a larger install base than the other 5th generation consoles. It was a perfect storm of marketing muscle, huge install base, DVD, and the Ps2 was a great console in its own right.

But, looking at the games themselves and the console features, I think any of those consoles could have won with Sony's advantages in their corner. They were just all at a massive disadvantage. Many have the Dreamcast, Xbox, and GC as their #1 on their greatest console list, and it can easily be argued about each of them.

 

[IbizaPocholo]

 

[Thanati]

is PS5 GPU is slightly better than gtx 1080 thats pretty pathetic.

You heard it here first folks ; memory bandwidth doesn't matter. Tell that to the PlayStation 4 Pro lol

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Lets continue 6'th gen discussion here guys because we dont need offtopic discussion in PS5 thread, and it looks like some people really think GC was the most capable 6 gen console... so prepare for yet a other xbox vs GC war... but of course please talk about PS2 and DC as well here, basically speaking the whole 6'th gen

Some interesting quotes from previous thread:


"Chozofication" suggest GC could do anything like xbox. GC hardware had no shaders, shadows buffers, 50% less RAM and no HDD for caching purposes, and yet some people suggest it could do everything like xbox.


GC was the best... because it had higher memory bandwidth?

The best looking Game Cube, xbox, DC, PS2 games below. Because it's hard to find true screenshots (games running on actual hardware), so I will use screenshots from emulators.

Star Wars Rogue Leader

Metroid Prime 2

Resident Evil 4

Fox Adventures

F-Zero GX

PS2 Games

GT4

God Of War 2

Ghost Hunter

NFS 6

Dreamcast games

Quake 3

Spoiler: more screenshots

Le Mans 24

Xbox games

Conker

Riddick

Splinter Cell 3

Crimson Skies

PGR2

Got to admit, Star Wars Rogue Leader looked phenomenal!

 

[Thanati]

Man, the Xbox version of DOA2 looked amazing!

 

[Vawn]

NOW who's censoring?

 

[Havoc2049]

The way the online matches in DOA Ultimate were structured were so cool. It brought the arcade experience home, as there were multiple challengers and the winner stayed fighting. There would be trash talking, cheering, etc. and each Gamer Tag has their countries flag next to it. The crowd back then on Xbox Live was really cool as well, so the majority of the people were really cool and the banter between players was civil yet competitive. Some lag here and there, but overall good times.

 

[Tschumi]

xBox OG wins here, but I have a special place in my heart for GCN, the one I owned. It's pretty unfair not to mention Wind Waker, which had hugely beautiful animation quality and design, even if it was mostly in primary colours

 

[Deleted member 1159]

It blows my mind that anyone thinks the GameCube wasn't the console of that gen. I say that owning a Dreamcast, PS2 and GameCube at launch and having lots of friend with Xbox at the time. PS2 had the most pretty good game games, GCN had the highest quality shit with the best graphics, Xbox was somewhere in between but never blew me away.

I've had every Sony and Nintendo console except Virtual Boy and Wii U but I'd take my GameCube library over my PS2 library any day, and the difference in fidelity that gen is undeniable IMO. And I ended up getting an X360 a few years later but the Og Xbox didn't do shit for me

 

[EPSYLON EAGLE]

It runs at 60 FPS on original hardware and has very advanced water effects and reflections.



Thats keep impressive too


Given PS2 has not hardware pixel shaders.

 

[Judge Magister]

 

[Fafalada]

 

[Judge Magister]

I got to be honest here, didn't knew this game.

 

[SpokkX]

The first, and only, console generation

• Consoles performed better technically better than PC:s at the time
• Had lots of games that never came to PC
• Most games ran at 60fps

After PS2/GC/XB consoles have slowly transformed to slow pc:s (well except Nintendo- they are original, yet still slow)

 

[EPSYLON EAGLE]

This game has huge graphics, and nobody speak about...

PS2


GC


Both 60 fps!

 

[Xeela_sunston]

PS2 seems to be best example of Dev's being the problem. Since they moan about the 4MB GS despite It could render a multi-layered ARPG with large linear levels with PS3 teir visuals at 480p. If a Render per frame with heavy use of the VU units engine was used.

Then when the 256MB RSX with 18GB/s It max bandwidth gave what the devs wanted suddenly the CELL CPU & 256MB main ram became a issue. Yet It could easily do 900p60 with heavy visuals only held back by being Split 512MB when they could've went 512MB for the main ram.

Then Sony goes 8core Jaguar at 1.6GHz after being ass blasted by devs over the CELL BE. You now have 2GB GPU with 120GB/s that a monster compared to the 256MB RSX, That could've done 900p60 ~ 1440p30. But all wasted because devs cried how the PS4 CPU was worse than a 3rd gen i3.

With the PS5 It the most complete both RAM, CPU, GPU out of all PS consoles. The only issue here Is AAA devs acting like morons who refuse to learn UE5 or put literally any fucking effort in.

- You have full desktop 8c/16t 3800x at 3.8GHz, with 6c/12t for games.

- Have RX 6600xt at 288GB/s + 10 tflops, Think a 1080ti super with RT.

- 12GB Game ram with 8GB main + 4GB video, Love the trolls here thinking It 4GB main + 8GB video a config that got Series X/S laughed at.

 

[SpokkX]

Xbox was somewhat bottlenecked by RAM speed but it's hands down the best machine of that generation, PS/VS support was game changer.

In theory - but most games ran at 30fps

Imo gamecube was most impressive in reality with great gfx + 60fps

 

[Physiognomonics]

6'th gen hardware wars: Game Cube vs Xbox OG vs PS2 vs Dreamcast?

Xbox - 24 million
GameCube - 22 million
PlayStation 2 - 155 million
Dreamcast - 9 million

And yet I would only still play some Dreamcast and Gamecube games over anything on PS2 / Xbox.

 

[RAIDEN1]

Dreamcast shouldn't even be in the conversation, it was dead on arrival, or at the very least on borrowed time, as Sega weren't as mighty as they once were come 2000/2001...and as we all know they very nearly went under....

 

[nkarafo]

This game has huge graphics, and nobody speak about...

PS2


GC


Both 60 fps!

Pretty sure these are 30fps. Xtreme-G 3 is 60fps but not these.

 

[Daniel Thomas MacInnes]

Oh, another one of these discussions. That's nice.

(Goes back to playing Sega Dreamcast).