A Consolidated List Of All PS Vita Flaws
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DXB-KNIGHT
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umm... Why are some people criticizing pramath instead of the issues presented?
rollingstart
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Still the embarrassing thing about the memory cards is that it ultimately hurts Sony.
Vita is indisputably the best portable hardware, features a great line-up of games, but the management by Sony has been a fucking mess. I can't imagine what kind of monstrosity Sony would make from lemons.
Lupin the Third
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Takao, are you ACTUALLY "big on" the Vita or are you really just kind of cautiously optimistic and just occasionally indulging in the weird humor of fanboyisms for kicks?
Nemesis121
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They be fighting Piracy, so the cost is put on us, lol someone's gonna hack the Vita within 6 months...
Really now? Millions of a certain product in various forms from a certain company does great. I'm assuming you never owned anything with a non removable battery? What's the problem you have with them that turned you against them?
Because we can?
DiscoJer
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Most of this stuff is thing Sony has learned from the PSP or competitors or can't be helped
Base price - $250 was a bargain when it was announced, now it's too expensive?
Battery life - you want them to reduce the power? Wait for batteries to get better? Charge more for a better battery? It's basically the same as the PSP.
Memory cards/Onboard storage - See 360 and their experiment with the PSPGo, which flopped despite coming with 16 gigs of memory as well as using SDCard for more. It's just better to set the lowest price possible without forcing people to buy memory that they may or may not need.
TV Out - Erm, it's a handheld. Just play your PS3. The last thing Sony needs are people buying it just to play Uncharted and then put it in their drawer until the next AAA game comes out. Especially if they are taking a loss on hardware. If you don't want to play games on a handheld, don't buy a handheld. .
Battery - see the Pandora thing. Frankly, I'm shocked it has a USB port.
BC - People bitched and bitched and bitched and bitched about UMDs. This is about as plausible as BC could get.
The biggest flaw is IMHO, the lineup. Too dependent on PS3 IP, rather than starting its own. I loved the PSP, but there's nothing I want, other than P4 which is a PS2 remake (since I don't like playing on consoles much I missed it)
Base price - $250 was a bargain when it was announced, now it's too expensive?
Battery life - you want them to reduce the power? Wait for batteries to get better? Charge more for a better battery? It's basically the same as the PSP.
Memory cards/Onboard storage - See 360 and their experiment with the PSPGo, which flopped despite coming with 16 gigs of memory as well as using SDCard for more. It's just better to set the lowest price possible without forcing people to buy memory that they may or may not need.
TV Out - Erm, it's a handheld. Just play your PS3. The last thing Sony needs are people buying it just to play Uncharted and then put it in their drawer until the next AAA game comes out. Especially if they are taking a loss on hardware. If you don't want to play games on a handheld, don't buy a handheld. .
Battery - see the Pandora thing. Frankly, I'm shocked it has a USB port.
BC - People bitched and bitched and bitched and bitched about UMDs. This is about as plausible as BC could get.
The biggest flaw is IMHO, the lineup. Too dependent on PS3 IP, rather than starting its own. I loved the PSP, but there's nothing I want, other than P4 which is a PS2 remake (since I don't like playing on consoles much I missed it)
Poimandres
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I prefer removable batteries. Problem I've had with non-removable batteries: the battery died and I couldn't replace it. I had an old iPod that went this way, and my PS3 controller doesn't hold a charge like it used to.
I think it's pretty clear why some people would prefer removable batteries.
chickdigger802
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Did you hear, people hate free 2 play!
So instead of give you the client for free, they will just charge you $20. It's all psychological.
Do you have a link to production Vita's battery consumption pattern ?
Vita has an accessory port just like iPod. It should be possible to add a HDMI dock later (like iPod !).
Vita allows one active account at any one time. You can change its PSN account any time, but it will also reset your preferences to factory settings.
I don't see how it negates Vita's network advantage over 3DS though. Vita has richer PSN community and media features than PS3. 3DS has no gaming network per se, at least not yet.
Here's how it works when I tried it last week. You can start the web browser in the middle of a game any time. When you're done with the browser, swipe back to your game and click the "Continue" button. The game will resume from your last save point.
A patch later will allow the game to resume from where you left off.
I own a Mac. It means I need to run a Windows VM (e.g., Parallels Desktop) to access Vita until they add native Mac support.
What reasons or grounds do you have to criticize me anyway?
Out of all the mentioned flaws the only deal-breaker for me could be the price of the memory cards since there will be games that require it and these cards don't look like they'll be any cheap.
I can manage without another account, TV output, etc so I'll most likely try to get it by april-june next year.
I can manage without another account, TV output, etc so I'll most likely try to get it by april-june next year.
chickdigger802
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I agree with most of your points except this. Were you one of the guys that was ok that ps3 still doesn't have hdmi cables packaged in?
And with all the somewhat interesting games and the whole dlc push, it does seem memory stick will be somewhat a necessity in the near future.
And does the vita really have no onboard memory? Where is the OS located? On the battery?
It's a problem, but sadly a common one in the portable consumer electronics sphere, and the commonality of it is what Respawn was getting at.
I do play things up, my proposed version of this thread would've been me playing it up to a crazy degree. That said, I am legitimately hyped for this platform. The PSP is a platform I've probably sunk more time into than any other I've ever owned, so naturally its successor is something I hope the best for. Unfortunately, despite the amazing potential Vita has, the road ahead won't be easy, and I'm afraid there will never be a light for Vita's darkest hour.
GhostWriter24
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Geez, so nitpicky...we really need a thread dedicated to shitting on the Vita before it even releases?
madmaxx350
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So basically all it resets are the preferences, does that include stuff like saved wireless networks ?
Acrylic7
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more importantly, matte
WTF?
I thought you were the greatest nintendo troll ever?
I mean, be honest man. You are nintendo fanboy. There is no shame in that.
Phoenician_Viking
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Because you already said you like the 3DS more than VITA. So anything you say is suspect. Besides it´s you who made the thread about the 3DS having the best line up next year. So excuse people for doubting your motives and agenda.
Femmeworth
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I'm hoping the price implodes like the 3DS, but I know Sony is too stubborn for that.
the man just wants to be somebody
Liking the 3DS more means I don't like the Vita? Like I said, I am still excited about the Vita.
What, do I now have to make a list of everything I find wrong with the 3DS too? I daresay that list will probably be longer than this list.
Wi-fi off, Bluetooth off, default brightness and headphones used... I think it's clear those are medium settings.
I may be misinterpreting though :/
Totally
I don't think Sony can really afford a 3DS like price collapse, unless iPhone 5 makes the components incredibly cheap or something.
I think all settings and preferences should be reset to factory default.
If I go back to the Vita Hill Social Club clubhouse, I will check it out. Hopefully the Vita PSN will be up by then.
what does sonys choice of components mean for price drops, anyway? is it going to get cheaper quicker?
Thunderbear
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To me, threads like these are so pointless. It's producing no new facts. The OP's motivation just seems to spread negativity about the system. Is there anything constructive about this thread other than "yeah, it sucks..."? Is it just to stand on your soap box and get your opinion out? What are we meant to be discussing?
Should I, as a person who is excited for the Vita, post a thread that talks about all the positives of the Vita to balance things out?
It's ridiculous.
Other threads started by Pramath:
- The 3DS Lineup For 2012 is HUGE... Best Lineup for any system next year
- PS Vita Memory Cards and Accessories Priced By Gamestop
- Mario Kart 7 Review Thread: First Reviews In
- Some PS Vita retail games will require memory cards to start
- GAF, do you prefer Nintendo as a hardware maker or a software maker?
- What is the best Nintendo console of all time?
- What do you think will become the 3DS's defining game?
This sums up that the OP really loves Nintendo (nothing wrong with that) and the only threads he's started on the Vita has been negative. It's trolling.
Should I, as a person who is excited for the Vita, post a thread that talks about all the positives of the Vita to balance things out?
It's ridiculous.
Other threads started by Pramath:
- The 3DS Lineup For 2012 is HUGE... Best Lineup for any system next year
- PS Vita Memory Cards and Accessories Priced By Gamestop
- Mario Kart 7 Review Thread: First Reviews In
- Some PS Vita retail games will require memory cards to start
- GAF, do you prefer Nintendo as a hardware maker or a software maker?
- What is the best Nintendo console of all time?
- What do you think will become the 3DS's defining game?
This sums up that the OP really loves Nintendo (nothing wrong with that) and the only threads he's started on the Vita has been negative. It's trolling.
... and with these things off, it could be 5 hours instead of 3 ? You already assumed the low end of the battery life for medium settings (whatever that means).
Conrad Link
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Meh I'll be waiting for the inevitable redesign that will show up a few weeks after launch. Nintendo always do that. >_>
Oh wait, now I see the issue.
I'll fix that in the OP.
Yes, the Vita is mostly comprised of highly optimized over the counter parts that'll be widely used in a variety of electronics in the coming future. As such, it should make Vita one of the quickest PlayStations to reach profitability on each unit stold.
Infinite Justice
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Now you see what i'm talking about pramath?
You need to spread out more
that's what i have been hoping for, though it obviously doesn't mean that the savings will be passed onto consumers anytime soon.
I suppose, lol.
I'll try to talk about other things as well, although I don't understand what my post history should have anything to do with anything if my post content is all correct :/
Anyway, I get your point
BlueTsunami
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There is a bit of a "I've got black friends" rationalization and reasoning going on in the OP
It is true that Sony might be a bit stingy, but they'll have wiggle room for price drops a lot sooner. Well, assuming the PS4 doesn't strangle Vita like the PS3 did to PSP, and Sony uses the Vita's margins as a crutch to support the PS4...
Phoenician_Viking
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Yeah. These components get cheaper because of the availability of said components. It´s te opposite of raw materials where demand will make prices go up.
madmaxx350
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This is actually sounding a little bit better than i thought it would be. I guess that means you'd have to go through all the initial setups again everytime you switch accounts.
honestly, i just hope sony has learned from the psp and quickly releases some different colors. that's all i want. ;(
airmangataosenai
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That's kinda the point people are making. Your post history shows a pattern of making threads trying to drum up enthusiasm for 3DS and being a Debbie Downer at every turn towards the Vita. I make no qualms about not liking the current 3DS lineup for the immediate future (I'll get one before Kingdom Hearts hits most likely) but I don't go out of my way making FUD threads either.
DidntKnowJack
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None of this stuff listed in the OP really affects me. The price of memory cards comes close, but even there I always planned on buying the physical copies anyway. So I'll just get the cheapest of the memory cards and go from there. Overall I'm pretty happy with what I've seen of the Vita.
Hmmm... looking at my own threads history, there are several threads that don't show up there:
a) I made a thread asking which Elder Scrolls game was the best. It's not in my posting history
b) I made a thread asking which Zelda game is the best. It is not in my posting history
c) I made a thread about Bioware. It is also not in my posting history.
d) This thread is not in my posting history
This is just the off the top of my head.
Do those threads show up for you in my posting history? Or is this a bug that I have to contact site technical support about?
zerokoolpsx
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Of all the things on the list. The one that would be a deal breaker for me would be the memory cards. It's gonna rape my wallet. Would rather wait until it is somewhat reasonable affordable or a redesign unit that has some on board memory.