32GB card being nearly half the price of the system itself is hi-larious. That alone makes me want to not buy the handheld at all based on principle. I mean, you can buy a damn Class 10 32GB Micro SD card for $60.
They be fighting Piracy, so the cost is put on us, lol someone's gonna hack the Vita within 6 months...The cheapest memory card is $24.99: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33107555&postcount=1054
Damn I did not know about not being able to swap out the battery yourself.
That is a huge flaw, nearly enough stop me buying one.
umm... Why are some people criticizing pramath instead of the issues presented?
Seeing all of those in one post really hits home at how much they really have left to improve.
Oh wells, plan to buy one sometime next year.
Really now? Millions of a certain product in various forms from a certain company does great. I'm assuming you never owned anything with a non removable battery? What's the problem you have with them that turned you against them?
welcome to the world of .99 cent "games"
>Battery Life: On medium settings, the PS Vita gets 3 hours of battery life. This teeters on being unacceptable; people like to point at the 3DS's oft quoted 3-5 hours battery life figure as a defensive comparison, but the 3DS's 3 hour battery life is on thehighest settings. If the Vita gives out 3 hours on medium settings, I hate to think what it would perform like on high.
What's worse is that unlike the 3DS, you can't even change your own battery. You have to send the Vita in to Sony a la Apple and the iPod for them to change your battery for you.
>No TV output: Not really a deal breaker, but a definite step back from all their other PSP models since the PSP 2000, which have included a TV out. An obviously deliberate omission to be included in a future revision.
>Only one account per system: This one actually negates one of the big advantages that the Vita had over the 3DS- but only one account can be registered per Vita system. This means that you and your brother can't share a Vita, this means that you can't have multple accounts to get around region restrictions, this basically means that you are account locked onto your unit. Again, not a deal breaker, but a bit of a puzzling decision.
To some people, there might be a problem because they might buy games from all over the world. So if you have a US PSN account on your Vita, and you buy a game in the UK, you can't buy DLC for your game.
>You can't use the browser while playing games: It might seem like I am nitpicking here, but seriously, what the f**k is this? This is no biggie, I can always just use my smartphone or my PC if I want to consult a walkthrough, but why can't the Vita do this when even the 3DS can? One of the best things about the 3DS is suspending my current game, booting the browser up, going to GameFAQs and consulting a walkthrough on how to proceed, and then resuming my game. It adds to the self contained portable nature of the device that both these systems must exhibit if they are to survive in this iPhone/iPod world. Why can the Vita not access the browser when a game is being played, especially considering its great multitasking capabilities?
However, Sony have apparently said that they will be fixing this problem with a firmware update soon, so sit tight!
>You Can't Manage Your Vita With A Mac: If you want to manage all the media, games, apps and more on your Vita with your PC, you're fine. If you own a Mac, you're screwed, since the management software apparently is not compatible with Mac. Yet. Sony said they would be looking into fixing this issue soon.
Because we can?
Most of this stuff is thing Sony has learned from the PSP or competitors or can't be helped
Base price - $250 was a bargain when it was announced, now it's too expensive?
Battery life - you want them to reduce the power? Wait for batteries to get better? Charge more for a better battery? It's basically the same as the PSP.
Memory cards/Onboard storage - See 360 and their experiment with the PSPGo, which flopped despite coming with 16 gigs of memory as well as using SDCard for more. It's just better to set the lowest price possible without forcing people to buy memory that they may or may not need.
TV Out - Erm, it's a handheld. Just play your PS3. The last thing Sony needs are people buying it just to play Uncharted and then put it in their drawer until the next AAA game comes out. Especially if they are taking a loss on hardware. If you don't want to play games on a handheld, don't buy a handheld. .
Battery - see the Pandora thing. Frankly, I'm shocked it has a USB port.
BC - People bitched and bitched and bitched and bitched about UMDs. This is about as plausible as BC could get.
The biggest flaw is IMHO, the lineup. Too dependent on PS3 IP, rather than starting its own. I loved the PSP, but there's nothing I want, other than P4 which is a PS2 remake (since I don't like playing on consoles much I missed it)
I prefer removable batteries. Problem I've had with non-removable batteries: the battery died and I couldn't replace it. I had an old iPod that went this way, and my PS3 controller doesn't hold a charge like it used to.
I think it's pretty clear why some people would prefer removable batteries.
Takao, are you ACTUALLY "big on" the Vita or are you really just kind of cautiously optimistic and just occasionally indulging in the weird humor of fanboyisms for kicks?
Do you have a link to production Vita's battery consumption pattern ?
Vita has an accessory port just like iPod. It should be possible to add a HDMI dock later (like iPod !).
Vita allows one active account at any one time. You can change its PSN account any time, but it will also reset your preferences to factory settings.
I don't see how it negates Vita's network advantage over 3DS though. Vita has richer PSN community and media features than PS3. 3DS has no gaming network per se, at least not yet.
Here's how it works when I tried it last week. You can start the web browser in the middle of a game any time. When you're done with the browser, swipe back to your game and click the "Continue" button. The game will resume from your last save point.
A patch later will allow the game to resume from where you left off.
I own a Mac. It means I need to run a Windows VM (e.g., Parallels Desktop) to access Vita until they add native Mac support.
and more importantly, White
Okay, so before I proceed, let me make it clear what this post is not:
It is not a PS Vita hate post. I am not hating on the system. I believe Sony made a great, well thought out handheld (more so than Nintendo), and that they did learn a lot of things from the PSP/PS3 debacles. I also believe that the launch lineup for the Vita is definitely the best launch lineup for any system since the Dreamcast, and arguably ever.
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What reasons or grounds do you have to criticize me anyway?
< Reference: About Duration of the Battery>
Game: Approx. 3~5 hours
Video: Approx. 5 hours
Music (in stand-by mode): Approx. 9 hours
* Screen brightness default setting, Bluetooth feature off, headphones used
* Game, when not using the network
* The duration may change depending on the brightness of the screen, what content being played and if the network (3G/Wi-Fi) feature is being used or not
"Find all threads started by pramath" makes all this twice as interesting.
Because you already said you like the 3DS more than VITA. So anything you say is suspect. Besides it´s you who made the thread about the 3DS having the best line up next year. So excuse people for doubting your motives and agenda.
Doesn't say anything about medium or high settings. >_<
Totallythe man just wants to besomebody
I'm hoping the price implodes like the 3DS, but I know Sony is too stubborn for that.
So basically all it resets are the preferences, does that include stuff like saved wireless networks ?
I don't think Sony can really afford a 3DS like price collapse, unless iPhone 5 makes the components incredibly cheap or something.
Wi-fi off, Bluetooth off, default brightness and headphones used... I think it's clear those are medium settings.
I may be misinterpreting though :/
Oh wait, now I see the issue.... and with these things off, it could be 5 hours instead of 3 ? You already assumed the low end of the battery life for medium settings (whatever that means).
what does sonys choice of components mean for price drops, anyway? is it going to get cheaper quicker?
Because you already said you like the 3DS more than VITA. So anything you say is suspect. Besides it´s you who made the thread about the 3DS having the best line up next year. So excuse people for doubting your motives and agenda.
"Find all threads started by pramath" makes all this twice as interesting.
Yes, the Vita is mostly comprised of highly optimized over the counter parts that'll be widely used in a variety of electronics in the coming future. As such, it should make Vita one of the quickest PlayStations to reach profitability on each unit stold.
Now you see what i'm talking about pramath?
You need to spread out some more
that's what i have been hoping for, though it obviously doesn't mean that the savings will be passed onto consumers anytime soon.
what does sonys choice of components mean for price drops, anyway? is it going to get cheaper quicker?
I think all settings and preferences should be reset to factory default.
If I go back to the Vita Hill Social Club clubhouse, I will check it out. Hopefully the Vita PSN will be up by then.
It is true that Sony might be a bit stingy, but they'll have wiggle room for price drops a lot sooner. Well, assuming the PS4 doesn't strangle Vita like the PS3 did to PSP, and Sony uses the Vita's margins as a crutch to support the PS4...
Liking the 3DS more means I don't like the Vita? Like I said, I am still excited about the Vita.
What, do I now have to make a list of everything I find wrong with the 3DS too? I daresay that list will probably be longer than this list.
That's kinda the point people are making. Your post history shows a pattern of making threads trying to drum up enthusiasm for 3DS and being a Debbie Downer at every turn towards the Vita. I make no qualms about not liking the current 3DS lineup for the immediate future (I'll get one before Kingdom Hearts hits most likely) but I don't go out of my way making FUD threads either.