A Sega police raid...over legally purchased Nintendo dev kits

VGEsoterica

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I mean and you thought Nintendo was BAD when it came to abusing the courts and the law in their favor...now Sega had police raid a resellers house in the UK after legally purchasing the contents of a Sega of Europe office from a liquidation agent. I mean...sounds like Nintendo by proxy

So yeah...police raids of peoples houses with arrests, fingerprinting and DNA samples (seriously) over legally purchased, with receipts hardware. What will they think of next

 
Not sure what the UK legal system is like, but this seems like a warrant was obtained - and subsequent search and seizure performed - using misleading information.

Dude should stop talking to press and get legal representation.
 
Not sure what the UK legal system is like, but this seems like a warrant was obtained - and subsequent search and seizure performed - using misleading information.

Dude should stop talking to press and get legal representation.
Apparently he has a lawyer because yes seems like a fraudulent warrant

But he's fighting in the public perception arena too. Not a bad idea when it's this much of a horseshit mess
 
Unfortunately dev-kits, especially prototypes are never sold per se, they are leased and remain the property of the hardware supplier.

If Nintendo had reached out to the buyer, demanding the return of the kits, and they had not complied... whether they were part of a legally bought liquidation lot it wouldn't mean shit.
Because you cannot "buy" property that a vendor is not entitled to sell and knowingly hold onto it after the true owner makes themselves known. Its essentially handling stolen goods.

If the buyer was misled into believing they were taking legal ownership then the fault lies with the seller and legal remedies would need to sought against them.

Knowing as I do that prototype hardware is invariably marked as property of the supplier, its not like claiming ignorance is a defence either.
 
Unfortunately dev-kits, especially prototypes are never sold per se, they are leased and remain the property of the hardware supplier.

If Nintendo had reached out to the buyer, demanding the return of the kits, and they had not complied... whether they were part of a legally bought liquidation lot it wouldn't mean shit.
Because you cannot "buy" property that a vendor is not entitled to sell and knowingly hold onto it after the true owner makes themselves known. Its essentially handling stolen goods.

If the buyer was misled into believing they were taking legal ownership then the fault lies with the seller and legal remedies would need to sought against them.

Knowing as I do that prototype hardware is invariably marked as property of the supplier, its not like claiming ignorance is a defence either.
Thats all a civil matter. Not a criminal once. Sega needs to pursue a remedy in civil court, not a damn house raid 🤣
 
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Sounds like Sega bending over backwards to avoid Nintendo's wrath over their fuck-up by cooking up some bullshit theft story for gullible UK police who don't know the law from their arse these days.

If I were that guy I'd be having conversations with my lawyers.
 
Bro, I truly appreciate your vids, but you really milk that 10 minute YouTube benchmark.

I don't blame you, I'm sure the arbitrary ad revenue threshold forces you to hit the 10 minute mark. But the thing is, I usually bounce from your vids after about 2 minutes of intro waffle, and if I'm compelled enough to tell you that, there are probably a lot more people like me who don't bother giving feedback.

I won't pretend to understand how the YouTube algorithm works (and honestly, I'd love to know from you perspective), but I can't imagine that someone clicking a direct link from a repeated source, watching for enough time to make a judgment about the video, and then bouncing is helping your algorithmic standing.

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Your scripts are great overall (but long), and your casual, monotone voice is fine. Your cadence could definitely use some work, though. And you'd really do well to invest in a Shure SM7B mic, and maybe reducing your mids a bit.

Anyway, I really do like what you do. You cover a ton of topics I'm interested in. But I genuinely have a hard time making it through a lot of your videos. I've been meaning to give you direct feedback for a while, cause I love to see a fellow gaffer succeed in a highly-competitive field. I wanna see you get to 100k, where that natural algorithmic growth starts to really pop off.
 
Bro, I truly appreciate your vids, but you really milk that 10 minute YouTube benchmark.

I don't blame you, I'm sure the arbitrary ad revenue threshold forces you to hit the 10 minute mark. But the thing is, I usually bounce from your vids after about 2 minutes of intro waffle, and if I'm compelled enough to tell you that, there are probably a lot more people like me who don't bother giving feedback.

I won't pretend to understand how the YouTube algorithm works (and honestly, I'd love to know from you perspective), but I can't imagine that someone clicking a direct link from a repeated source, watching for enough time to make a judgment about the video, and then bouncing is helping your algorithmic standing.

I don't know if it would actually be helpful for your channel, but I would personally recommend trying much shorter-form videos, especially when the news topic is simple enough to discuss in just a few minutes. I'm sure people would be much more inclined to watch and like a video that doesn't have obvious padding. I know I would.

Your scripts are great overall (but long), and your casual, monotone voice is fine. Your cadence could definitely use some work, though. And you'd really do well to invest in a Shure SM7B mic, and maybe reducing your mids a bit.

Anyway, I really do like what you do. You cover a ton of topics I'm interested in. But I genuinely have a hard time making it through a lot of your videos. I've been meaning to give you direct feedback for a while, cause I love to see a fellow gaffer succeed in a highly-competitive field. I wanna see you get to 100k, where that natural algorithmic growth starts to really pop off.
I just wanna ditto what you are saying here. I find myself interested in VGE's topics but his cadence and presentation just don't keep me watching.

The topics are great, presentation needs some energy, some life, some spark.
 
Has the guy who bought the prototypes said publicly whether he was told by the seller if he was able to buy them with permission from Nintendo?

Bro, I truly appreciate your vids, but you really milk that 10 minute YouTube benchmark.

I don't blame you, I'm sure the arbitrary ad revenue threshold forces you to hit the 10 minute mark. But the thing is, I usually bounce from your vids after about 2 minutes of intro waffle, and if I'm compelled enough to tell you that, there are probably a lot more people like me who don't bother giving feedback.

I won't pretend to understand how the YouTube algorithm works (and honestly, I'd love to know from you perspective), but I can't imagine that someone clicking a direct link from a repeated source, watching for enough time to make a judgment about the video, and then bouncing is helping your algorithmic standing.

I don't know if it would actually be helpful for your channel, but I would personally recommend trying much shorter-form videos, especially when the news topic is simple enough to discuss in just a few minutes. I'm sure people would be much more inclined to watch and like a video that doesn't have obvious padding. I know I would.

Your scripts are great overall (but long), and your casual, monotone voice is fine. Your cadence could definitely use some work, though. And you'd really do well to invest in a Shure SM7B mic, and maybe reducing your mids a bit.

Anyway, I really do like what you do. You cover a ton of topics I'm interested in. But I genuinely have a hard time making it through a lot of your videos. I've been meaning to give you direct feedback for a while, cause I love to see a fellow gaffer succeed in a highly-competitive field. I wanna see you get to 100k, where that natural algorithmic growth starts to really pop off.
I just wanna ditto what you are saying here. I find myself interested in VGE's topics but his cadence and presentation just don't keep me watching.

The topics are great, presentation needs some energy, some life, some spark.

This is exactly what I was going to write as well.

I'm a Patreon sub to you VGE, I hope you take these messages as fair and polite criticism.
 
Legally dev kits are the property of the format holder and are to be destroyed or returned once no longer needed.

This is Sega covering thier own ass in this case for not doing that.
 
Bro, I truly appreciate your vids, but you really milk that 10 minute YouTube benchmark.

I don't blame you, I'm sure the arbitrary ad revenue threshold forces you to hit the 10 minute mark. But the thing is, I usually bounce from your vids after about 2 minutes of intro waffle, and if I'm compelled enough to tell you that, there are probably a lot more people like me who don't bother giving feedback.

I won't pretend to understand how the YouTube algorithm works (and honestly, I'd love to know from you perspective), but I can't imagine that someone clicking a direct link from a repeated source, watching for enough time to make a judgment about the video, and then bouncing is helping your algorithmic standing.

I don't know if it would actually be helpful for your channel, but I would personally recommend trying much shorter-form videos, especially when the news topic is simple enough to discuss in just a few minutes. I'm sure people would be much more inclined to watch and like a video that doesn't have obvious padding. I know I would.

Your scripts are great overall (but long), and your casual, monotone voice is fine. Your cadence could definitely use some work, though. And you'd really do well to invest in a Shure SM7B mic, and maybe reducing your mids a bit.

Anyway, I really do like what you do. You cover a ton of topics I'm interested in. But I genuinely have a hard time making it through a lot of your videos. I've been meaning to give you direct feedback for a while, cause I love to see a fellow gaffer succeed in a highly-competitive field. I wanna see you get to 100k, where that natural algorithmic growth starts to really pop off.
Agreed,

I also like what you do ✌️
 
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