And it's built right in the hardware. It's called cel-shading. It can make shitty 3D power turn into something decent. IGN commented how good Tony Hawk looked on DS saying it looked as if it was cel-shaded. Why don't more developers take advantage of this, instead of releasing crappy looking 1997 3D?
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A simple trick developers should use to make 3D games look good on DS
- Thread starter Hollywood
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http://media.ds.ign.com/media/740/740721/vids_1.html
There's the video. It's only 1MB size, so it only takes like a minute to download if you are on 56/k, probably like 3 seconds on high speed, so check it out. It looks like Jet Grind Radio.
There's the video. It's only 1MB size, so it only takes like a minute to download if you are on 56/k, probably like 3 seconds on high speed, so check it out. It looks like Jet Grind Radio.
Azure Dream
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Hollywood said:
Sonic Rush also uses cel-shading on the Sonic polymodel (to try to match it with the sprites about), and so far, the effect on him doesn't look too hot. Maybe they'll improve that, though.
Though I guess Sonic's never had much luck with cel-shading, anyway. I have a few early shots of Sonic Shuffle before it was cel-shaded, and it looks much better than what we ended up with. (No one really needs to say, "PLAYS BETTER TOO LOL," thank you...)
Here is another way. 
Hilo
Member
A Duper-Super DSFX chip?Society said:Here is another way.
Society said:Here is another way.
An EXTERNAL processor? so, Nintendo makes an expansion pak for the DS for use in the GBA slot, and ups the graphics during the game maybe?
Lionheart said:
Cel-shading is about lighting objects. The amount of lighting/shadowing to apply to a surface depends upon the angle between the surface and the direction of the light source. What this means is that to calculate it, you need to do it on a per poly basis, since each polygon will be at a slightly different angle to the light. So say you had a 5000 poly character, then at 60 fps, that is 300,000 calculations per second. So although the calculation isn't too complex, the problem is you have to apply that calculation many times, hence putting it into hardware speeds it up big time.
Azure Dream
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DarkCloud said:
On my other PC (that's having problems right now), but I'll see if I can dig them out in a week or so. It's just one or two shots, taken under unideal conditions, but it's quite obvious that the cel-shading effect isn't being applied.
Meatpuppet
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That boss segment looks really good. Colour me surprised, a non-shitty effort from Sonic Team. Between this and PSU, it's tempting to think that they've turned a corner.
