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[YCoCg]

What is wrong with AI coding?

Look at the past few Windows 11 updates.

 

[BattleScar]

Not advocating for it. However, what if an AI does it and I tell you a human did it? If I tell you a lie about the symbolism in my AI art and you believe it - the passion and emotions that went into my art, what's the difference? The difference is perception of the art. Not the art. I believe we're trending towards an era of art where the only difference between the human art and AI art will be the perception of passion.

Are you saying would I be tricked?
I mean I'd like to say I won't be, but I'm not naive enough to assume I wouldn't ever fall for that kind of trick. Yeah, I might well believe in the art and the perception of it.

But... again, what's the point? Part of the point of art, is what goes into making it. If it takes little more than a couple prompts and a few hundred watts of power... kinda takes away the whole premise.

 

[Ashamam]

There are two schools of thought.

1. Maintain headcount and halve dev time.

2. Sack everyone and halve dev time.

Guess which one C suites salivate over and guess which one will turn out to be somewhat true.

 

[Filben]

AI for big fixing and keeping databases tidy is ok. But everything that is art-related shouldn't be made by AI. When making art it's about the process, too, about reaching the final conclusion; the process of doing so is so deeply humane and tied to our culture and one's personal experience and memories, not the AI-kind of data collection of millions of samples that has nothing to do with your personal experience you draw inspiration from and that is ultimately the source of your art.

 

[Team Skoda]

I don't mind. Probably I have already and I haven't noticed.

There is no point in resisting. Is like fighting CDs in favor of Vinyl or fighting MP3 in favor of CD's... Sure, you can have a preference but the options will be reduced if you limit your media to "traditional".

AI right now is unfinished. It is nothing more than a tool. It still requires a lot of input from humans but that won't always be the case. The discussion would make more sense when an AI can produce something on it's own with a prompt like "design a sci fi FPS game using the most popular trends in the last 6 months" or something like that. Currently it is far from that and it can only help with productivity in the creative process.

People use it way more than we realize.

Edit: I accidentally a word

Interesting you mentioned the going to CD from vinyl, etc., because now, with audiophiles, alot of FLAC formats now use vinyl, since it creates a unique, "plump" sound that can't be recreated through direct stream. In other words, there's still a place for it.

I can only hope that "Human Art" will always have it's place. Fortunately, artist have to create. It's in their soul. We're wired that way and only death will stop us.

That being said too, Indie development will be the thriving area for Human Art where no corpo or program can tell them what they can and can't create.

 

[Myths]

Lot of post hoc rationalization going on in here about art having "soul" and "meaning." The end result will determine whether any of what's produced is worthwhile.

 

[RoboFu]

Lot of post hoc rationalization going on in here about art having "soul" and "meaning." The end result will determine whether any of what's produced is worthwhile.

the big problem with AI generator images is that it is ripping off everyone. I tried an image of a warrior guy the other day and he had batman gloves and looked like John cena.

 

[BlueManifest]

Lot of post hoc rationalization going on in here about art having "soul" and "meaning." The end result will determine whether any of what's produced is worthwhile.

Kinda reminds me of the gas car people saying electric cars don't have a soul lol

 

[Durin]

The problem is you got the luddite crowd that hate anything associated with the word, and the corpo suits that try to shove AI into everything beyond sense.

AI is a broad term that encompasses a bunch of different tools and use-cases, and inevitably over time those tools will get better + the use cases increase.

Literally artists since digital began used tools to short-cut parts of the process or re-use components of other work/assets to produce great work.

 

[diffusionx]

If you use AI "all day" in your work then how long until your company cuts out the middleman?

I use Copilot once in a while and it's fucking horrible and useless beyond the most basic queries.

 

[StereoVsn]

What a weird thing to say. Good use of AI can 10x productivity in many ways. That doesn't mean someone is replaceable.

Besides, you think a company can just go "Hey ChatGPT, do this employee's job"?

Considering news coming out of large corpos last couple of weeks, the clear answer seems to be that management does think AI can replace a lot of jobs.

Edit: AI is super useful as a tool. I utilize it to generate presentations from documentation on variety of topics (plenty of manual cleanup), code completion, scripting, brainstorming and a ton more tasks (ML for OCR and data processing has been around for like a decade).

That said, AI is terrible at planning, in depth systems or app architecture and generally more senior level items.

It's also pretty terrible at wholesale coding as full scale AI code and code commits are asking for trouble down the line. Code completion and code assistance are a time saver if you know what you are doing.

There is ton more of useful AI applications of course. It is freaking scary as jobs are being killed by utilizing AI left and right. .

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

AI for big fixing and keeping databases tidy is ok. But everything that is art-related shouldn't be made by AI. When making art it's about the process, too, about reaching the final conclusion; the process of doing so is so deeply humane and tied to our culture and one's personal experience and memories, not the AI-kind of data collection of millions of samples that has nothing to do with your personal experience you draw inspiration from and that is ultimately the source of your art.

There are obviously many different layers and aspects to this, quite a few fascinating questions in there as well. I'll just quickly add to this: What does it say about you (as in: the recipient of ai output), especially in the context of "art", when you're perfectly satisfied with consuming generated text or other media? Is there are connection between the artist, his art, and the recipient? If yes, is there a uniquely human element to that connection?

 

[Radical_3d]