Sword Of Doom
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Was bummed when I started playing on ps4 and noticed it wasn't 60fps.
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ABZÛ |OT| A Journey into an ocean of wisdom
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Spooky Scary Skeleton
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Welp, I guess PC it is then.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
See bottom quote...
What kind of
Octopus
PC is also locked at 40 with a reasonably steady 30 most of the time.
Aside from tweaked resolutions, the PS4 version is identical.
I don't think there's any framerate lock on PC. It ranges between 40 and 60fps on my system. That's on low settings however (old PC). But I've read comments from others saying they can get much higher framerates even on Ultra settings.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
I've heard of frame-rate dips identical in both versions and that users are having to tweak display settings to achieve higher than 1080p resolutions.
If I'm incorrect in what I've heard, then please enlighten me
Apart from saying the framerate is locked on PC I don't think you're incorrect.I've heard of frame-rate dips identical in both versions and that users are having to tweak display settings to achieve higher than 1080p resolutions.
If I'm incorrect in what I've heard, then please enlighten me
Regarding the issue with resolutions, that appeared to be solved after the patch. Or at least it allowed me to enable ultrawide without any file tweak.
980 Ti user here. I played it with a render resolution of 1920x1080, although my native resolution is 2560x1440. Solid 60fps with just a couple hitches throughout the entire game at Ultra. I wasn't able to achieve the same results with a 2560x1440 render resolution without dialing things down.I've heard of frame-rate dips identical in both versions and that users are having to tweak display settings to achieve higher than 1080p resolutions.
If I'm incorrect in what I've heard, then please enlighten me
Deckard Chapel
Banned
As long as everyone on PC can enjoy this game as well as PS4 users - everyone wins!
Definitely. Even on low at standard 1080p it's a beautiful game.
SolidChamp
Banned
There are times when I completely understand this mentality, and other times when I really don't.
This is the latter. No way should that ruin your experience.
Game plays extremely well and is truly outstanding, regardless of frame rate.
Soyongdori
Member
This is factually incorrect.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I'm not normally a fan of these kinds of games, but the screenshots look so gorgeous that I'm tempted to download it.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
That's the PS4 fps - according to some PC players the past day or so, it was no different.
If PC players can get 60fps that's great!
Hopefully a Collector's/Special Edition can remedy that issue for everyone
I would say it's the best ocean GOAT.
Don't get me wrong, I love Journey - but it's only real "wow" moments are the visuals, the Trials section and then of course, how it ends.
Literally every second of ABZÛ is a "wow moment. If Giant Squid really does release some kind of Special Edition that has extra levels that added both content and narrative; this game could possibly be GOAT.
I would love to see a level in between the Atlantis section and the next chapter that was deeper in the abyss, possibly at the very bottom of the sea [a place like the Mariana Trench] that was pitch black, other than the light from your helmet lights and also from the drones you would find and it featured Megalodons and Mosasaurs and any other massive, sea-dwelling, prehistoric creatures.
That would give all the people that said there wasn't enough tension in the game something to be tense about! That, and it would give us an extra level or two and a lot of other cool, prehistoric sea creatures!
There's your next mission Giant Squid LOL!
Well I guess we have to agree to disagree about my opinion lol. Journey will forever be ahead of ABZU for me.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
See my above post.
PS4 is the only guaranteed resolution/fps that I was informed of. If the PC version [understandably] renders higher without modifications, I was not aware
I only asked GS about the PS4 version and having heard PC users complain lately about resolutions, Denuvo and fps etc. I just figured that the PC version had to be tweaked to equal the PS4 in terms of performance.
See my above post.
PS4 is the only guaranteed resolution/fps that I was informed of. If the PC version [understandably] renders higher without modifications, I was not aware
I only asked GS about the PS4 version and having heard PC users complain lately about resolutions, Denuvo and fps etc. I just figured that the PC version had to be tweaked to equal the PS4 in terms of performance.
It's a fantastic pc version. It was patched yesterday as well.
I did not want anyone being put off picking this up thinking it was poor.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
That's great to hear!
I hope the patch fixed everything that PC users have been irritated about
I want everyone to enjoy ABZÛ!
Incitemaybe
Member
Finished it today and loved it.
Would have loved 60 fps and the black bars when meditating to disappear after letting you know what sea life you were spectating however.
Wonderful experience nonetheless 🙏 Something I will certainly come back to just to swim around or have on in the background.
Would have loved 60 fps and the black bars when meditating to disappear after letting you know what sea life you were spectating however.
Wonderful experience nonetheless 🙏 Something I will certainly come back to just to swim around or have on in the background.
The comparisons to Journey are sort of getting a bit tiring now. Yes, there are people who worked on it that worked on Journey but that doesn't mean every aspect of one game needs to be compared with the other. I even heard on Gamespot's Lobby this morning the reviewer say "I was disappointed it didn't have the multiplayer aspect that Journey had...". - So, I suppose I can say that I'm disappointed Titanfall 2 isn't set in Hell like Doom is?
I don't what it is about "Art-House" games that instantly make people compare them with eachother when they should be the most unique experiences around.
I don't what it is about "Art-House" games that instantly make people compare them with eachother when they should be the most unique experiences around.
Nope:
Amazing experience and astounding tech/art work, BTW.
But not as fresh and as powerful as Flower and Journey, in my opinion.
Still one of the best things of the year.
I think the issue is that it is trying to be Journey, from the gameplay to the lore presentation. It just felt like a re-skin of Journey to me, that's not to say it wasn't great.
Goldrusher
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semiconscious
Member
giant squid patch requests:
1) collectible info for each chapter on the chapter select menu screen
2) eliminate meditation black bars
thanks!
...100%! I forgot to mention this! Although I could've sworn it was TR1...
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It totally is! Forgot to say it here but I agree with the TR music vibe.
There aren't very many games like this so it's easy to compare the two. On top of that, it's quite obvious that Abzu was trying to be a lot like Journey and illicit those same emotions and feelings. Your example feels very disingenuous. Why are you using the setting for your argument? Way off base compared to the comparisons being made here. And yes, you can make actual comparisons between Titanfall and Doom. What's wrong with comparing mechanics and features between the two?
The Lamonster
Member
We need a first-person PSVR experience for this game.
yeah, and it doesn't even feel like a solid 30 when sharply turning or panning the camera :/
So I'm in the area where
and I thought it'd be neat to swim all the way back to the top.
About halfway through I completely lose my sense of orientation and had no idea if I was going up or down anymore. I just keep swimming into a certain direction for a bit and eventually I come up to the surface where it's just the sun on the horizon. Really nice scene but then I look back down to see where I need to return and all I see is just complete emptiness and I feel very shook all of the sudden. It's a really daunting feeling to see absolutely nothing below you for miles so... I just restarted the level. The scale of this game is really something else.
you just finished swimming with the blue whales and are now where all the evil triangles are
About halfway through I completely lose my sense of orientation and had no idea if I was going up or down anymore. I just keep swimming into a certain direction for a bit and eventually I come up to the surface where it's just the sun on the horizon. Really nice scene but then I look back down to see where I need to return and all I see is just complete emptiness and I feel very shook all of the sudden. It's a really daunting feeling to see absolutely nothing below you for miles so... I just restarted the level. The scale of this game is really something else.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
giant squid patch requests:
1) collectible info for each chapter on the chapter select menu screen
2) eliminate meditation black bars
thanks!
Yes!
I think I tried swimming back up from there and it wouldn't let me! Where did you start moving upwards - do you remember?
Would be so good if it was 60fps (on PS4)... for some reason without it it feels "lacking" since the graphics are quite simple... yet I get that they are pulling off cool things with the large clusters of fish.
I played the first 30 min or so the other day and while it is fairly neat, it doesn't quite have the magic of Spore / Flower / Journey... at least not yet.
I hope to see stuff that WOW me going forward...
I played the first 30 min or so the other day and while it is fairly neat, it doesn't quite have the magic of Spore / Flower / Journey... at least not yet.
I hope to see stuff that WOW me going forward...
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Oh, you will!
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Did you find the
Finding Nemo Easter egg? After you grow the third Coral Tree, when you go into the temple keep looking at the ceilings and in one of them there is a hole you can swim into and in the large room there's a Clown Fish and a Blue Tang swimming around, chasing each other. Obviously a Finding Nemo reference!
I wonder what other nods there are?
Deckard Chapel
Banned
The swimming mechanics are the best I've experienced in any game to date. I don't see how it can be topped - the freedom of movement is simply staggering.
Just finished it, absolutely INCREDIBLE.
There's so much stuff to like about this game. The incredible presentation, with some of the best vistas and scenes in gaming, period. The fluid controls which make controlling the swimmer an absolute joy. The small interactions with all the sea-life, each one carefully crafted with beatiful animations. That FUCKING SOUNDTRACK. Austin Wintory is one of the best composers around. The music in this game just fits everything SO WELL, and in doing that makes every aspect of the game even better.
I love this game.
There's so much stuff to like about this game. The incredible presentation, with some of the best vistas and scenes in gaming, period. The fluid controls which make controlling the swimmer an absolute joy. The small interactions with all the sea-life, each one carefully crafted with beatiful animations. That FUCKING SOUNDTRACK. Austin Wintory is one of the best composers around. The music in this game just fits everything SO WELL, and in doing that makes every aspect of the game even better.
I love this game.
RealityCheque
Banned
The missus is out for the night next weekend so I'm going to hold off and do this in one sitting then, journey style.
Can't wait to see what it's like.
Can't wait to see what it's like.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Great write-up!
I love it too. It doesn't get stale or boring, either.
I hope we get a physical edition with extra content, levels, etc. - there can never be enough ABZÛ!
uomoartificiale
Member
Sorry if anything I'll say will bum out someone in here, but I can't say I enjoyed the experience.
As a huge Journey fan, I would say that this game captured all the superficial aspects of that game but nothing of its essence. It's visually very pretty but that's about it, the swimming action is very well done but the game thinks it can manage tight corridors as well as the open areas, and every time I wanted to explore I was redirected back to the corridor path the game wanted me to stick to. Even the music, while very well produced and interesting, seemed affected by this sense of vagueness, lacking one simple coherent theme. I won't propose my wife to play it together like we did with Journey as I initially planned.
As a huge Journey fan, I would say that this game captured all the superficial aspects of that game but nothing of its essence. It's visually very pretty but that's about it, the swimming action is very well done but the game thinks it can manage tight corridors as well as the open areas, and every time I wanted to explore I was redirected back to the corridor path the game wanted me to stick to. Even the music, while very well produced and interesting, seemed affected by this sense of vagueness, lacking one simple coherent theme. I won't propose my wife to play it together like we did with Journey as I initially planned.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Wow, I'm sorry it didn't connect with you. Maybe try playing it again in the near future? Second chances make better impressions sometimes!
Just finished it. It's my favorite game of the year so far, though that's an indictment of the year as much as praise for the game. The art direction is really second to none, and I also loved the tranquility and enigmatic story, though I'm not sure I fully understood it, or whether it's meant to be.
However I do agree with the Journey (and also Flower) comparisons and that it ultimately falls short. The game really misses Jenova Chen and feels exactly what happens if you let the art director instead of the game designer take control, even though the thing that happens as a result of that is undoubtedly insanely beautiful. (very mild spoilers)
This game follows the Journey template to tell a new story. But both Flower and Journey weren't meant as templates for a story; their game design and interaction were developed precisely to enhance the rhetoric of the story. Journey was a parable of life and how the only thing that makes our barren journey to the end worthwhile is being together with other people. And so the whole game design revolved around creating that meaningful connection with another soul until the passing to the other world (read Eurogamer's interview by Simon Parkin to understand how). Flower, a much simpler story of course, used its gusts of wind mechanic to enhance the feeling of blowing away evil spirits, much like Tibetan Buddhism. Maybe Abzu had this too, but I am oblivious to it. However, nothing in the swimming interaction seems to particularly enhance the message.
Lacking that, Abzu misses, well I'm not going to say soul because that it has, but definitely some profoundness.
However I do agree with the Journey (and also Flower) comparisons and that it ultimately falls short. The game really misses Jenova Chen and feels exactly what happens if you let the art director instead of the game designer take control, even though the thing that happens as a result of that is undoubtedly insanely beautiful. (very mild spoilers)
This game follows the Journey template to tell a new story. But both Flower and Journey weren't meant as templates for a story; their game design and interaction were developed precisely to enhance the rhetoric of the story. Journey was a parable of life and how the only thing that makes our barren journey to the end worthwhile is being together with other people. And so the whole game design revolved around creating that meaningful connection with another soul until the passing to the other world (read Eurogamer's interview by Simon Parkin to understand how). Flower, a much simpler story of course, used its gusts of wind mechanic to enhance the feeling of blowing away evil spirits, much like Tibetan Buddhism. Maybe Abzu had this too, but I am oblivious to it. However, nothing in the swimming interaction seems to particularly enhance the message.
Lacking that, Abzu misses, well I'm not going to say soul because that it has, but definitely some profoundness.
I too wasn't a huge fan. The soundtrack is *by far* the best part of the game.
On PC I experienced intermittent frame drops and sound would cut out here and there (970). I had no difficulty with the camera in large areas but once I was in a more enclosed space I had serious issues with the camera. The game didn't connect with me emotionally compared to Journey (not sure if that's because this seemed like Journey 2 beat-for-beat), but even the
section, which is clearly the best part of the game, wasn't nearly as polished as Journey. I was ripped out of that moment when
and half of them end up just clipping through.
Abzu certainly has character but it needed some more technical work in addition to something else to put it all together.
On PC I experienced intermittent frame drops and sound would cut out here and there (970). I had no difficulty with the camera in large areas but once I was in a more enclosed space I had serious issues with the camera. The game didn't connect with me emotionally compared to Journey (not sure if that's because this seemed like Journey 2 beat-for-beat), but even the
whale
fish swim into the mouth of the whale
Abzu certainly has character but it needed some more technical work in addition to something else to put it all together.
Rndm
Member
Same. Guess that's because it's the same instrument (oboe) and you don't often hear that in a solo in the beginning of a song. Is there any other game with an oboe heavy soundtrack? ABZÛ really seems like an exception here and Austin even said that the oboe is the star in ABZÛ much like the cello is the star in Journey.
Deckard Chapel
Banned
Agreed.
WoolyNinja
Member
Thanks - you've saved me a lot of typing as I agree with everything you've said. It was an ok game but nowhere near my Journey experience.