According to James Gunn, The Batman 2 doesn't even have a script at this point
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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I'm happy he's not rushing. I think that lot of scripts are rushed into production nowadays and I want this sequel to be good
March Climber
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Is this going to be another Joker situation where the director had an incredible idea for a one-off movie… and then the studio asked him to make another one?
Hope not.
Hope not.
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
Whilst I enjoyed his Batman albeit what I could make out seeing as the entire film was drenched in MOODY DARKNESS I have absolutely no desire to ever rewatch it again not to mention I couldn't tell you one thing about the plot it was so memorable, whereas you stick on the opening 5mins of a Dark Knight and my ass is glued to the seat right to the end.. for the umpteenth time, I have no desire for a new Matt Reeves Batman
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Vlodril
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I thought it was ok when i saw it but i have 0 recollection what it was about. Very strange.
TheAtomicPile
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Let's see, we've got:
- No script.
- Gunn: "Batman's my biggest issue in all of DC right now."
- Unprovoked assurances that the sequel definitely isn't canceled.
Not looking good...
- No script.
- Gunn: "Batman's my biggest issue in all of DC right now."
- Unprovoked assurances that the sequel definitely isn't canceled.
Not looking good...
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Truth. Jumbled mess after the super hype initial reveal..so much nonsense yapping
WhiteWaterM00se
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I think you need to move on at this point. It isn't anyone's fault, it he got sick or whatever.
So it should be full steam ahead on the next Batman movie. Personally, I would like to see them do sequels and then rest and reboot. Trilogies are not required in most cases.
Edit: so if the Gunn Batman is Brave and Bold, do that for two movies then move on to an older noir Batman or for the love of GOD…Batman Beyond.
So it should be full steam ahead on the next Batman movie. Personally, I would like to see them do sequels and then rest and reboot. Trilogies are not required in most cases.
Edit: so if the Gunn Batman is Brave and Bold, do that for two movies then move on to an older noir Batman or for the love of GOD…Batman Beyond.
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Audiophile
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Whole movie felt like they were winging it and relying entirely on vibes. Every time anything came up it was immediately solved, then insert a moody load of nothing, then on to the next scene to present the viewer with something else that will be resolved before we cut away. Every time a little momentum kicked up and it felt like something was gonna happen it just petered out like a wet fart. Whole thing was cinematic blue balls and I say that as someone who often loves slow, atmospheric movies that I can just settle into.
I was completely perplexed by the hype and positive response to it. Best thing it has going is cinematography that was seemingly constructed for the purpose of looking good in shrunk down screenshots on social media.
There's also Reeves' impressive feat of somehow getting Jeffrey Wright to be mediocre.
Avid Reading Horse
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I remember just a little. There was the funeral scene where there was some terrorist attack or something... they showed the full scene weeks before the movie came out and honestly it was better as a standalone than it was situated in the film... there was... Lenny Kravitz's daughter bitching about White Privilege.... and... Colin Farrell Penguin saying something like "I got you.. I... got.. you..." I think when they were playing the Batmobile level.
Aside from that the Twilight Vampire brooded about doing 'detective work' but I don't think he ever actually solved anything and then the movie ended. I miss the days of Christian Bale yelling at people.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
I dont give a shit about Batman anymore unless they stick with one for good. Enough with changing the actor every time and the multiverse shit.
Audiophile
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A lot of modern blockbusters that are surprisingly successful are like porridge, a week later I just can't tell one bite from the next and it all turns into a indistinct slurry in my head. There's very little dynamics. I finally watched Dune Part One after years of hype and really didn't enjoy it at all despite expecting to and loving Villeneuve's other work. Now a few months later my memory of it is just a big sterile, droning, sand-coloured blob of that I feel nothing for.
bitbydeath
Member
James is mandating scripts be completed prior to shooting, and rightfully so.
MCU often goes ahead without a script, this is why Guardians stands above most.
DreamcastSkies
Gold Member
Who will be Batman in Gunnverse?
Pagusas
Elden Member
Is that why Guardians 2 was so bad? Did they force it made without a locked script?
bitbydeath
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March Climber
Gold Member
How old are each of you? If you don't want to give a specific number, an age range is fine.
This isn't a post of me attempting to defend the movie, this a post of me worrying about the effects of aging on my memory.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Wasn't a fan of Guardians 2 either, but the company couldn't have been happier with the production process. Gunn apparently had that film wrap ahead of schedule and under budget.
Ensuring you finish a script before filming doesn't mean the script is great, but it does mean that you don't run into as many production problems and balloon the spending.
As for Batman Part 2, any personal issues Reeves may or may not be having aside, I can imagine struggling with a story. The first one has a really barebones plot and set of characters, and it's nothing we haven't seen before. The "realistic" Batman Reeves went for is very limited in what he can do.
Vlodril
Member
Oh i am old(ish. 50) and my memory is crap but it hasn't happen with other movies.
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
I'm in my early 50's chap and whilst the ole memories aren't what they used to be probably due to copious amounts of chemicals ingested during the rave years I can still remember a good movie but BatMan was so dark and so bleak, there was no break, no levity, no shift in tone nor palette it was just 3hrs of Emo shit that blended the entire movie into one, hell I couldn't even tell you what the major action scenes where or if there where any lol
kruis
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I Agree. The Penguin TV series was so much better than the Batman movie. I liked it when I saw it but I hardly remember anything about it now. All I remember is how murky and dark the visuals were.
Oh, and I'm in my late 50ies. It's clear that Neogaf is a forum primarily for middle aged Sony fans.
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Audiophile
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33 here. Plenty of movies I remember fine, but with a lot of recent blockbuster stuff there's something very flat about them, kind of like a song that is just one note and loud all the way through, there's no dynamics to make it memorable.
RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
The best Batman movie will forever be BATMAN RETURNS and nobody will have ever have the balls to make something like it ever again.
It was 89 on steroids. The movie actually looks like a comic or cartoon, with incredible and gorgeous practical effects and set works.
It was 89 on steroids. The movie actually looks like a comic or cartoon, with incredible and gorgeous practical effects and set works.
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kunonabi
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I mean the climax of the movie of the movie was him hulking out to move a piece of metal so yeah Bale definitely had it better, funny voices aside.