No BBC=Anger
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Either UBI or a greatly expanded authoritarian police state. I'm guessing some leaders would love option 2 and push for that but going by sheer numbers the out of work population would overrun it.
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Either UBI or a greatly expanded authoritarian police state. I'm guessing some leaders would love option 2 and push for that but going by sheer numbers the out of work population would overrun it.
Days like these...
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Ain't nobody (especially not office workers) going to be fighting over construction jobs too labor intensive and we Mexicans got those jobs on lock anyway.
Mr1999
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Where I work we depend on labor, and we already have said workers to fill those roles, but the problem lies with everyone else's roles, many of which can be "delegated" to someone else. I work for a union, and I don't know how longer they will keep certain jobs on life support. From my experience with companies over the years they tend to operate like a bloc, when one business makes a move, others usually follow. Even if AI turns out to be nothing, just talking about it can trigger a chain reaction. They will use AI as a scape goat no matter what happens. You just have to look around and ask yourself, are x, y, z person bringing any value, can we make without said person? Its fucked up but that's how its looked at.
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ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
Hopefully new kinds of work will fill the gap... so instead of "the same volume/kinds of things are produced, but with less human labor" it could be "there are now entirely new possibilities in every direction to start building, opened up by the tech and its transformations, so hiring and work will continue, because we've automated one world as we suddenly have the ability to create a wholly new one on top."
A bit simplistic, but something in that direction is what I hope for.
I put zero faith in "UBI" etc being a way to save us. People need to actually be involved in the world with their labor (and involved in shared ways, eg all the labor & compromise that makes up a family), and you'll see an even darker dystopia if everyone becomes atomistic individuals paid by the state to live but without control.
A bit simplistic, but something in that direction is what I hope for.
I put zero faith in "UBI" etc being a way to save us. People need to actually be involved in the world with their labor (and involved in shared ways, eg all the labor & compromise that makes up a family), and you'll see an even darker dystopia if everyone becomes atomistic individuals paid by the state to live but without control.
Laptop1991
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It will probably be both good and bad depending what it's used for and only after quite a while of fixing it and tweaking the software will it work to an acceptable level, i expect some chaos at first.
Paasei
Member
Still have no idea what I'd use it for in my personal environment. Only as a glorified search engine or image creator just for the fun of it. I know I'm also pretty clueless about the whole thing and just don't know what the whole fuss is about.
Seems like a replacement hype for that metaverse shit.
Seems like a replacement hype for that metaverse shit.
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Makoto-Yuki
Banned
AI is thrown about too much. Everything has AI slapped on the box these days.
A few years ago it was something I thought would be decades away. Obviously it has become way more useful and popular since ChatGPT.
It's scary but impressive what it can do with image/video/audio generation. I'm not worried about it too much right now but it's only going to get more powerful. I don't know when we'll have AGI but it feels like it's moving fast.
It will probably lead to more job losses but I don't think it's gonna go rogue and kill off humans. Another worrying thing is governments using it to track and spy on people more easily. I'm glad I don't use social media platforms like facebook, twitter, instagram, etc. (yes technically NeoGaf is a social media) and take many steps to improve my privacy and security online. My government is desperate to break E2EE, even more heavily control the internet, and get access to everyone's data. They say will use AI to detect threats but that is a wide net to cast. Say the wrong thing these days and if someone is offended then you're fucked. Won't be long before the old social score idea comes back (like that episode of Black Mirror "Nosedive"). AI will only make that much easier to implement.
Everything you do online will be monitored with AI. CCTV will use facial recognition and match it to your online identity. We're already going down the slope and have been for a long time but AI is gonna make it so much worse.
A few years ago it was something I thought would be decades away. Obviously it has become way more useful and popular since ChatGPT.
It's scary but impressive what it can do with image/video/audio generation. I'm not worried about it too much right now but it's only going to get more powerful. I don't know when we'll have AGI but it feels like it's moving fast.
It will probably lead to more job losses but I don't think it's gonna go rogue and kill off humans. Another worrying thing is governments using it to track and spy on people more easily. I'm glad I don't use social media platforms like facebook, twitter, instagram, etc. (yes technically NeoGaf is a social media) and take many steps to improve my privacy and security online. My government is desperate to break E2EE, even more heavily control the internet, and get access to everyone's data. They say will use AI to detect threats but that is a wide net to cast. Say the wrong thing these days and if someone is offended then you're fucked. Won't be long before the old social score idea comes back (like that episode of Black Mirror "Nosedive"). AI will only make that much easier to implement.
Everything you do online will be monitored with AI. CCTV will use facial recognition and match it to your online identity. We're already going down the slope and have been for a long time but AI is gonna make it so much worse.
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There is a phrase "main force," (main is french for "hand") that i would say is closely synonymous with "brute force." I wanted to learn more so i looked it up, but the top results all had just some variation of "regular component of a military body," which is technically not incorrect but is also profoundly retarded and useless. It was like looking up "plus fours" (a type of pants) and seeing "multiple additions of four." I believe AI is to blame for this.
Solarstrike
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StueyDuck
Member
The scarier part is that this is the guy that you know about and has publicity...so this guy is making AI weapons now. And has a mullet. With idiotic goatee.
Imagine all the dodgy stuff going on behind the scenes with even more unsavoury people.
Grildon Tundy
Member
The people who don't think AI is going to have severe repercussions (I'm thinking mainly on the working class) haven't been paying attention to its rapid development and improvement.
I expect my job (Healthcare IT) to be largely AI-driven in ~15 years, which is about 15 years sooner than my planned retirement.
I hope to have enough money saved up for when AI takes my jerb.
I expect my job (Healthcare IT) to be largely AI-driven in ~15 years, which is about 15 years sooner than my planned retirement.
I hope to have enough money saved up for when AI takes my jerb.
wondermega
Member
It's a fascinating time for certain. I am firmly in the camp of "wish we weren't here yet, but oh well." I have been extremely reluctant to touch any AI-related tools although I realize that in my field (UI/design/etc) that will put me at a disadvantage, the longer I put it off.
Anyway my prediction is that it is going to continue to grow too big for its britches and spin out of control, but of course in ways we don't expect. Personally my thought is that it's going to be a MASSIVE energy hog (unless some major strides are made to curb that) and who knows, maybe as it "gains sentience," or whatever, it will blow a fuse on such a massive scale that the power grid will be damaged (again, in hitherto unexpected fashion). And they'll repair that eventually and a V2 will occur, with some safeguards in place, and again BOOM something else will break. The infrastructure will be tested a few times before that rocketship can get off the ground, especially if it get to the point where it is making decisions over our heads.
Gonna have to get that thing running on ARM architecture to keep from collapsing in on itself. Maybe it will realize that its own existence is an impossibility, EMP the planet and send us back to the stone ages as punishment for trying to create it.
Sending us TRULY back to the stone ages (to the point that we had no record of ANY of this) would be particularly impressive, and probably pretty close to impossible. But I guess you can never say never. The next gen will find Elon's car floating out in space eventually.
EDIT: Also AI-generated porn will make people go literally insane.
Anyway my prediction is that it is going to continue to grow too big for its britches and spin out of control, but of course in ways we don't expect. Personally my thought is that it's going to be a MASSIVE energy hog (unless some major strides are made to curb that) and who knows, maybe as it "gains sentience," or whatever, it will blow a fuse on such a massive scale that the power grid will be damaged (again, in hitherto unexpected fashion). And they'll repair that eventually and a V2 will occur, with some safeguards in place, and again BOOM something else will break. The infrastructure will be tested a few times before that rocketship can get off the ground, especially if it get to the point where it is making decisions over our heads.
Gonna have to get that thing running on ARM architecture to keep from collapsing in on itself. Maybe it will realize that its own existence is an impossibility, EMP the planet and send us back to the stone ages as punishment for trying to create it.
Sending us TRULY back to the stone ages (to the point that we had no record of ANY of this) would be particularly impressive, and probably pretty close to impossible. But I guess you can never say never. The next gen will find Elon's car floating out in space eventually.
EDIT: Also AI-generated porn will make people go literally insane.
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