Alien Earth Open Spoiler Thread
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Alex11
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I mean, the hyper sleep is for the distance, so it's like driving or whatever transportation to and from work.
So it's your time and as long as you do your job I guess you could sleep for whatever time.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Company vehicle. They probably charge you for hyper sleep knowing the future.
Alex11
Gold Member
Yeah, then probably it's in their contract things like these, I imagine there's a whole lot of them with the 65 years mission and all.
Alex11
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The best thing in the show so far is this hairdo of Yutani:
Also like this corporate hearing scene, minimalistic in both design and color:
Since the xeno is whatever in this show, they could have instead focused more on these types of corporate interactions, of course with better writing, not this jibber jabber.
Also like this corporate hearing scene, minimalistic in both design and color:
Since the xeno is whatever in this show, they could have instead focused more on these types of corporate interactions, of course with better writing, not this jibber jabber.
The Goddamn Mike
Neo Member
Mason says...
(In cockney accent) "I'm an eight foot creature of some kind with acid for blood, and I arrived on the spaceship. I kill on sight, and am generally unpleasant. Cup o' tea?"
No, you CAN do all that and have the spooky ALIEN creatures STILL escape because they are ALIEN.
Having the kid be blackmailed into sabotage was a good thought, that's another good way to do it, just like Jurassic Park. OF course this show is written by morons so the kid saboteur is the LEAST of the islands problems.
And I gotta say, the xeno should NEVER EVER NEVER EVER be SITTING ON A DAMN BENCH! WTF with that shit?????
And the whole therapy angle, the one place I'd expect these writers to have significant personal experience, and they just let the memory wipe go with zero coaching of the others?
About the only redeeming part of this show are the grotesque new aliens. Plant alien, don't let me down!!!
Also, it would be helpful to see Kid Kavalier do SOMETHING hyper intelligent to justify his place. As it is, I am baffled at how he got this position. I suppose the writers think Elon/Bezos/Jobs are this way, and not super focused dedicated workers in their own right.
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AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
It is hard for people to write good billionaires when they hate them with every fiber of their being.
Plant is nothing it is eyeball all day.
FatallyYours
Gold Member
I finally figured out the potential Alien Earth and Independence Day link
Was obvious really
Last episode will introduce a new hero character and leave us on a cliffhanger
Fades to Black
Queue random metal song
Was obvious really
Last episode will introduce a new hero character and leave us on a cliffhanger
Fades to Black
Queue random metal song
kpopSuperstar
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I just can't take the lab serious anymore, virtually no security on a bunch of alien species, even the kids with their superhero bodies are just stumbling about with no supervision.
It's all just cheap plot devices for things to go wrong. They don't even have a guard at the door.
It's all just cheap plot devices for things to go wrong. They don't even have a guard at the door.
ColonialRaptor
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I'm not sure I can believe this is real. If this is how it's going to pan out it's just frustratingly contrived.
I kinda hope (but don't expect to be right but I hope) that it's all Kid Kavalier playing 4d chess and directing Kirsch to let things happen. He's been made out to be stupidly smart and if that doesn't pay off in some really smart interesting way I'm going to be so frustrated by the outcome. So far it's just heading exactly where we know it will.
I mean the cyborg guy basically announced to kirsch that he's gonna invade the island (and he already knows anyway because he's been watching the traitor kid).
Srsly this is the contained bio lab setup and it's just got a giant aircon vent on the floor that can be crawled into?
Gawd even just the 'break the food tray handle and then back into the containment chamber fully and get locked inside' instead of just open the door with one hand and slide the food in with the other and then shut as quickly as he can... Srsly it's frustrating.
kpopSuperstar
Member
Srsly.
Duellist
Member
I don't know man. I'm enjoying the show. Yes there are parts where I chuckle but overall it's not bad. Fucking eyelien the goat is terrifying though. Best creature of the show. She's like the Asian in the Simpsons that just sits back and watches but you know shit is going to go down as soon as she gets free. Love it
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Yeah eyealien is the star of the show. Mainly because it is intelligent. That's the problem with the Xenos - they really aren't a major threat - you set them up on earth right now, couple hundred drones and a couple of queens, and humanity wouldn't break a sweat eradicating them. Intelligence trumps acid for blood and armored exo-skeleton.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I hope we get more "Invasive Species" in the next season
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Are they planning more? I was under the impression that this was a limited series.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Well I hope this is more than one season
Listening to the podcast is a hoot, it like they are describing a totally different show. You can hear the passion of the set, effects, and costume folks, then you can hear the total fart smelling navel gazing of the actors and writers who apparently spent so much time "discussing the marriage power relationship between an older woman who is closer to Kid K and a younger man who isn't as aware of the real objectives" that they completely forgot to make their characters believable, the dialogue natural, and the chain of events even remotely coherent.
Some shows can get away with being so abstracted from logical structure and totally focused on intercharacter drama because they are based on a source material that DOES have that stuff. Game of Thrones is like this. They could play a little fast and loose with detailed stuff because the books were rock solid, and even when they weren't, you KNEW GRRM had it all figured out regardless if it was explained in the novels. Tolkien was the same way. The Alien IP has been worked over by logical engineering types to explain a lot of the facets of the universe, but this show just hand waves it all. I've come to the disappointing realization that this show isn't intended for sci-fi geeks AT ALL, it is pure mass market pap with the thinnest of sci-fi skins. Maybe if I was less of a science type I could over look all the bizarre actions and choices they made. I can enjoy a show like Landman, for example, because I know little to nothing about oil drilling, were I involved in that field perhaps it is as full of gaps and omissions. Somehow I doubt it though, A:E is really on a new level of brain dead "experts".
I can't imagine it can pull itself together in these last 2 eps. Am I fully hate watching at this point? Not quite, as I'm trying to focus on the parts I do like, primarily WETAs work on the effects. But I hope this is a contained story because a 3 year wait for season 2 isn't gonna be worth it.
Some shows can get away with being so abstracted from logical structure and totally focused on intercharacter drama because they are based on a source material that DOES have that stuff. Game of Thrones is like this. They could play a little fast and loose with detailed stuff because the books were rock solid, and even when they weren't, you KNEW GRRM had it all figured out regardless if it was explained in the novels. Tolkien was the same way. The Alien IP has been worked over by logical engineering types to explain a lot of the facets of the universe, but this show just hand waves it all. I've come to the disappointing realization that this show isn't intended for sci-fi geeks AT ALL, it is pure mass market pap with the thinnest of sci-fi skins. Maybe if I was less of a science type I could over look all the bizarre actions and choices they made. I can enjoy a show like Landman, for example, because I know little to nothing about oil drilling, were I involved in that field perhaps it is as full of gaps and omissions. Somehow I doubt it though, A:E is really on a new level of brain dead "experts".
I can't imagine it can pull itself together in these last 2 eps. Am I fully hate watching at this point? Not quite, as I'm trying to focus on the parts I do like, primarily WETAs work on the effects. But I hope this is a contained story because a 3 year wait for season 2 isn't gonna be worth it.
RCX
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"Oi, bruv, smashing day innit? Time for a pint!"
Shockwave_Fox
Member
This series is absolutely horrendous.
How retarded are these people and so utterly useless at everything.
Acting is poor as well and the writing is pathetic.
How retarded are these people and so utterly useless at everything.
Acting is poor as well and the writing is pathetic.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
This show probably could have been half its length and benefited from a much tighter and interesting story. The latest episode was pretty painful to watch. You'd think the scientist guy would sound the alarm as soon as possible when he saw what had happened to the kid, but no, let me get in there without protective gear hoping I don't get attacked.
It has become too unbelievable that the facility would be that understaffed all of the time. Is there seriously a massive air vent with a flimsy panel as the second barrier from the super lethal aliens? There's a heavy locked door, but what good is it with those vents?
The show sprinkles a few genuinely good moments with a lot of head-scratching trash.
It has become too unbelievable that the facility would be that understaffed all of the time. Is there seriously a massive air vent with a flimsy panel as the second barrier from the super lethal aliens? There's a heavy locked door, but what good is it with those vents?
The show sprinkles a few genuinely good moments with a lot of head-scratching trash.
Even 71% seems pretty biased. I think there are folks who are gaslit into thinking the Peter Pan stuff implies deeper meaning than they understand so they overlook the glaring narrative flaws because "it's artistic". Critics of course crave novelty and "subverting expectations" more than anyone so naturally they will praise such notions, even if the end result is less than expected.
RCX
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"Folks" or "fucking idiots"?
A buddy of mine is a big fan of this show, at least after 2-3 eps. I'll have to discuss it with him to see if he is still a fan and if so, what about the show resonates with him. But like I think I said early on in this thread, the 'casual' viewer, not deeply steeped in sci-fi topics, sees this stuff and is just blown away because it's all new to them. Black Mirror would be the only other exposure to these concepts (and the format of that show, taking 1 tech and doing a deep dive per ep, would be a MUCH better way to do A:E as well, I think) for these people. They are over-awed by the effects, the atmosphere, the circular dialogue that sounds good but ultimately says very little. They are waiting for that "OMG the aliens did WHAT?!?!??!" right hook that 'prestige' TV has trained us to expect, that the slow burn cumulates in an insane batshit crazy final reveal.
So I wouldn't call the fans of A:E "fucking idiots", they just don't have a refined palate for this stuff.
It's the WRITERS who are the idiots, how do you spend MONTHS designing that lab area, blocking it for all the action, going through design after design, and then settle on a giant, easily removed, air vent? Not a biohazard incinerator the hybrids can learn to override, or some sort of loading dock with guardian synths the hybrids can control, ANYTHING that makes some rational sense?
About the only explanation now is that Kirsch has been manipulating all the work schedules, the monitoring systems, the security in order to engineer failures. But then that begs the question, why does Kid K TRUST Kirsch so much? Why isn't there some redundancy, a "trust but verify" mechanism, any sort of back stop to Kirsch just running the company how he sees fit? As it stands right now, Kid K is just a doofy puppet with Kirsch and that bald guy actually running the show, executing all the ideas, making shit happen. Kid K himself barely seems to understand biology, physics, or psychology, he is totally myopic and easily distracted. At this point I'm just waiting for him to make a pass at Wendy because she is modelled on his mother or something ("ohhhh, sick burn, bet you didn't see that coming" expectations subverted!!!).
Spukc
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someone give this person a gold account
RCX
Member
I'm still shaking my head at the fact that they fired low-sperm science guy but didn't immediately revoke his access and escort him off the island....because they needed the plot to happen.
Holy fuck this show is mind-numbingly stupid. I love it though. Haven't had this much fun rolling my eyes at a show since Rings of Power (in fairness I couldn't stick it out with that trash pile though)
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This is directly due to a lack of the IMPORTANT type of diversity on the writing team.....folks that have been in proper scientific research centers, have worked for billionaires before, have corporate experience, and military experience, etc. They would know about the risks of firing someone and then just forgetting about it. Even if Kid K wanders off to chase butterflies or read his book, the folks who ACTUALLY MAKE HIS TRILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION RUN would most certainly swoop in.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I disagree. In Alien the crew were just puit of their depth AND being actively sabotaged by Ash. In Aliens they had SPECIFIC (and critical) incompetent character, Gorman, AND were actively sabotaged by Burke.
On A:E we have what is supposed to be a boy genius (we are told, never shown), an island FULL of top notch scientists and engineers (we are told, never shown), a RESEARCH spaceship FULL of of scientists and doctors (we are told, never shown). All we get are sorry excuses for professionals, supposedly acting in their areas of expertise, that have to be brain dead zombies in order for the alien creatures to get out and cause any trouble. I've worked labs and could put out a dozen more plausible scenarios in a weekend over scotch, never mind YEARS of development.
Vyse
Gold Member
Come on. He has dirty feet! Case closed.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Brilliant
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Nah in Aliens the colonial marines are outright dumb and incompetent. Entering an Alien lair without nearly all the weapons instead of just heading back and getting non-armor piercing ammo and more flamethrowers before returning is ridiculous. Collecting the ammo - how could that ever make sense? Sending the entire crew including Bishop to the surface leaving a nuke armed space destroyer completely unoccupied in space. The grizzled sergeant not taking charge and instead trying to have a conversation while doing 'can you here me now', although "all after incenerators" is a classic line. Dude leaving the drop ship on a potentially hostile planet (for a piss I guess) and leaving the door open. Having a glass window on your armored personnel carrier.
It takes a massive catalog of stupidity to put them in a position to be able to lose against the Aliens.
Its hard to put them into context, especially today. But in the 80's the US had gone a decade or more since a big war, lots of "common sense" lessons get lost in that time. I think in the Aliens universe, there was very little actual conflict, the Marines were not some crack elite Seal Team Six type unit, they were largely peacetime forces that quickly and easily put down any colonial dispute and then drank and fucked a lot. Pretty much what MOST militaries are like, borderline fuck-ups given a bit o'training. Cameron was probably drawing on a lot of vietnam era military lore, so draftees, folks avoiding prison by joining, lots of disorder in the ranks, little officer oversight, and not a ton of "professionalism" the way we think of it NOW, after 20 years of honing that edge in almost constant warfare, especially small unit stuff. Back then it was artillery, armor, and air power that got the $$$, light infantry was a joke and special forces was very hush hush.
So for me, the actions of Gorman and the marines just kinda blindly going along with it, rings VERY TRUE with how militaries CAN be, and how many were, at various times.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Can't wait for tommorow
FatallyYours
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GymWolf
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I mean, were you expecting good things from modern alien?
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Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Definitely more thought and effortIt's a quickly made and terrible meme
Better writing than A:E though
roosnam1980
Member
Can't wait for tommorow
FatallyYours
Gold Member
Episode 7 - equally as bad as episode 4
The comedy episode
Why the fuck does that facehugger sound like a zombie?
KILL OFF THESE IDIOT-KID SYNTHS PLEASE!
Lol, so the alien flies are not dangerous at all then
pathetic! 2 redshirts can come in and contain them, but a supercomputer synth cant figure out basic lab safety around them
6 billion dollars per synth huh...Didn't the destruction of the Nostromo cost 42 million? And Ash, a synth was on board the nostromo... somethings not adding up properly... imagine that, on this show?!?
You can turn off the tracking with 1 key stroke, but you can't turn it back on at all. Nope. Not how that works at all. Theres only 1 person in the world who can press "turn on tracking" on that island, and hes been fired! Atrocious writing
You can't just erase things? Except ginger synths memories. You can erase them. But we don't talk about massive inconsistencies between episodes. Or even between scenes in the same episodes. Sometimes even in the same scene! Who is writing this tripe??
Holy shit there are actual people walking about and doing things on the island. Only took until episode 7 for them to turn up! They are all braindead, but they are there....
Christina Pratt has no issues letting innocent humans get killed by her pet xeno-raptor? So she's not that human after all then
So there is an alarm system for the lab breeches? Shame that it was non existent in the last episode!
who turned it on? You know what, fuck it, it works when it wants to work! 
Huge island, but thankfully Christina Pratt and Co find the graves of the kids. Because it's a pivotal scene that tied all my lingering questions together and answered them, well worth the time spent here. Thanks show!
Thankfully that security team are completely deaf, not hearing the 2 idiot-kids scream or scientist moving about in the jungle just centimetres away
For an island under going an alien containment breech, all those soldiers are happy to just casually walk around, no frantic communication, no fearful looking around, they havn't even broken a sweat! Well trained soldiers on this island!
Getting facehugged gives you flashbacks in 3rd person, allowing the scientist to piece the whole thing together! Of course!
Thank god someone switched off those alarms so that no one now has to worry about a xenomorph running about killing everyone anymore
If there's one thing synths are known for, it's making a mansized bamboo raft very quickly from non existent resources in the middle of a fucking jungle
The island doesn't have drones or satellites monitoring for incursions like this? No? No motion detectors in the water miles off the island? No heat detectors anywhere? Just 6 men in 2 teams walking about the entire island will do for defence. Sure. Sounds about right...
Yeah, fuck that dead body in particular! Dump it in the water. All those "shoot to kill" bodies are going to start clogging up the island at any point now aren't they
FUCK OFF lol
Maths may be universal in theory, but how does the eye understand the human mathamatical question being proposed to it? Somehow it also understands toilet humour! Fucking bollocks
Ladies and gentlemen...Jurassic World Alien! all the xeno-raptor wants is to be loved, and caressed and for someone to clean off this damned human blood!
Thankfully someone knew exactly where the chestburster was going to go - which direction, after being released on a deserted beach, and was able to set up a trap for it. Remembering that the synth tracking is turned off at this point....Trash. Fucking trash
Holy shit, must have blown the budget on hiring extras for this episode!
Christina Pratt could hear the 6 wey-yu hidden troops in the jungle, but not the 20 Prodigy troops hiding nearby
Only 1 member of the security force is allowed to engage at 1 time. Because trash writing is trash. If you were only gonna have 1 of them killed and the other 29 stand around looking like fucking dumbasses, only have 2 or 3 in the first place
Please, PLEASE tell me they ginger synth is dead! I'll instantly add 1 point to the episode score if its confirmed
Best part of the episode- queen's of the stone age!
The comedy episode
Why the fuck does that facehugger sound like a zombie?
KILL OFF THESE IDIOT-KID SYNTHS PLEASE!
Lol, so the alien flies are not dangerous at all then
pathetic! 2 redshirts can come in and contain them, but a supercomputer synth cant figure out basic lab safety around them6 billion dollars per synth huh...Didn't the destruction of the Nostromo cost 42 million? And Ash, a synth was on board the nostromo... somethings not adding up properly... imagine that, on this show?!?
You can turn off the tracking with 1 key stroke, but you can't turn it back on at all. Nope. Not how that works at all. Theres only 1 person in the world who can press "turn on tracking" on that island, and hes been fired! Atrocious writing
You can't just erase things? Except ginger synths memories. You can erase them. But we don't talk about massive inconsistencies between episodes. Or even between scenes in the same episodes. Sometimes even in the same scene! Who is writing this tripe??
Holy shit there are actual people walking about and doing things on the island. Only took until episode 7 for them to turn up! They are all braindead, but they are there....
Christina Pratt has no issues letting innocent humans get killed by her pet xeno-raptor? So she's not that human after all then
So there is an alarm system for the lab breeches? Shame that it was non existent in the last episode!
who turned it on? You know what, fuck it, it works when it wants to work! Huge island, but thankfully Christina Pratt and Co find the graves of the kids. Because it's a pivotal scene that tied all my lingering questions together and answered them, well worth the time spent here. Thanks show!
Thankfully that security team are completely deaf, not hearing the 2 idiot-kids scream or scientist moving about in the jungle just centimetres away
For an island under going an alien containment breech, all those soldiers are happy to just casually walk around, no frantic communication, no fearful looking around, they havn't even broken a sweat! Well trained soldiers on this island!
Getting facehugged gives you flashbacks in 3rd person, allowing the scientist to piece the whole thing together! Of course!
Thank god someone switched off those alarms so that no one now has to worry about a xenomorph running about killing everyone anymore
If there's one thing synths are known for, it's making a mansized bamboo raft very quickly from non existent resources in the middle of a fucking jungle
The island doesn't have drones or satellites monitoring for incursions like this? No? No motion detectors in the water miles off the island? No heat detectors anywhere? Just 6 men in 2 teams walking about the entire island will do for defence. Sure. Sounds about right...
Yeah, fuck that dead body in particular! Dump it in the water. All those "shoot to kill" bodies are going to start clogging up the island at any point now aren't they
FUCK OFF lol
Maths may be universal in theory, but how does the eye understand the human mathamatical question being proposed to it? Somehow it also understands toilet humour! Fucking bollocks
Ladies and gentlemen...Jurassic World Alien!
all the xeno-raptor wants is to be loved, and caressed and for someone to clean off this damned human blood!Thankfully someone knew exactly where the chestburster was going to go - which direction, after being released on a deserted beach, and was able to set up a trap for it. Remembering that the synth tracking is turned off at this point....Trash. Fucking trash
Holy shit, must have blown the budget on hiring extras for this episode!
Christina Pratt could hear the 6 wey-yu hidden troops in the jungle, but not the 20 Prodigy troops hiding nearby
Only 1 member of the security force is allowed to engage at 1 time. Because trash writing is trash. If you were only gonna have 1 of them killed and the other 29 stand around looking like fucking dumbasses, only have 2 or 3 in the first place
Please, PLEASE tell me they ginger synth is dead! I'll instantly add 1 point to the episode score if its confirmed
Best part of the episode- queen's of the stone age!
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FatallyYours
Gold Member
What a load of bollocks this is. Steadily worse writing each episode. Waiting for the InGen helicopters to come flying over trying to catch the xeno in the wild ready for the crossover film Alien vs T.Rex
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