DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yep. Same here, still won't sub.
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All-new PlayStation Plus launches in June with three flexible membership options
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
You already knew the fridge was empty before you opened it. Don't lie
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Wait...multiplayer access now costs $120 per year?
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
$18 a month for their highest tier and they don't give you first party games day and date
Who's actually gonna pay $216 a year when the annual option is $120, though?
What? No, it's still $60.
Yoboman
Member
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Let me get those legacy games separately, otherwise they can fuck off.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Second tier isn't horrible, especially for people like me who aren't in the ecosystem yet.
worldwithpyramids
Member
This is nearly the worst possible outcome for this lol
Fbh
Member
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Maxwell House
Member
Where did you read this? I have seen nothing that says that.
Oh, I see it now in the press release. So does that mean PSNow subscribers who are paying $10 a month can continue to get Playstation + Premium for $10 a month even though the price is supposed to be $18 a month?
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Papacheeks
Banned
You mean for people who never had intention of being in the ecosystem?
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Not releasing big games day one on the platform means it sucks ass. Not saying they should do it for all games, but not even a couple... nah it's dead to me.
Die Namek Ability
Member
So for an extra 8 bucks a month i get a 800 game library? Seems like a decent deal. Whats with all the concern? If you dont like it keep paying your PS plus as it exists, subscribe to gamespass and/or fuck off.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
PS3 games as a streaming only option is crap, but it means that they are still nowhere near where they need to be with their x86-64 emulator or at least not at the performance level of Zen 2 / PS5 GPU, I suspect they have PS3 Cell Blades for it still.
Would be good if they said “PS3 games streaming only now, but to be downloadable at a future date”.
Papacheeks
Banned
Sony makes some of the biggest budgeted games. It makes sense to recoup that investment through actual digital and physical sales than to rely on a service that is 100% hit driven.
Trogdor1123
Member
Obviou want to see the lists of games but I also want to know the Canadian price too
I really like that they have a yearly fee as opposed to the 3 months packages for game pass that I buy.
I’m wondering if I should just trade my ps5 for and series x after I’m done horizon
I really like that they have a yearly fee as opposed to the 3 months packages for game pass that I buy.
I’m wondering if I should just trade my ps5 for and series x after I’m done horizon
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I wonder what this means for the ps1 games I already bought for Vita.
Topher
Identifies as young
I'm trying to reconcile the disappointment some are expressing here. What was it that folks thought they were getting with this? Why does this suck? It isn't amazing news, no, but it isn't bad news either. It is a service restructure which doesn't change anything for those who choose not to change.
DonJorginho
Banned
I wouldn't personally pay it monthly, but for people who are restricted to doing so, it rips them off and takes advantage.
graywolf323
Member
I mean those BF sales are nice, it's usually about half price so I try to stock up on Game Pass then to top off my sub to 3 years (though this last BF I couldn't afford to so my GPU is set to expire right now in March of 2024ignore me
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
There are emulators on the PC that run amazingly well off this very Zen/RDNA spec and a hair lower. But that also means they would have to do what MS did, and test game by game basis.
It all comes down to cost in the end (licensing, manpower, risk vs sales ratio, etc), however.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Topher
Identifies as young
Looks to me like PS now is being split into the Extra and Premium tiers. If you just want downloadable part of PS Now then go with Extra. Want the BC streaming, then pay for Premium.
ByWatterson
Member
I don't know how much of a use case I am, but nearly everything about Sony's assumptions seems incorrect to me.
Backwards compatibility isn't the only thing that sold me on Game Pass, but it was a big part of it - but with bells and whistles, like resolution and framerate boosts for old Fallout games I'd never played. Seeing PS3 treated dirty here (when it can and currently IS being emulated elsewhere) is inexplicable, and no discussion of boosting games is telling.
Day one first party, yes, I understand the reasoning, and I've agreed with it in the past, but Game Pass provides this insane security and permanence. Okay, so Sony won't go Day 1 - but it should give us confidence that the library will be built over time and stay that way. Threatening limited availability of top titles from the outset is bonkers to me. Should be the exact opposite.
Finally, not throwing out third-party heavy hitters in the announcement is a massive red flag. They won't be aggressive. It won't have the bangers Microsoft is willing to pay for.
It's online play + PS Plus + non-boosted very old games. For more money. That's it.
Backwards compatibility isn't the only thing that sold me on Game Pass, but it was a big part of it - but with bells and whistles, like resolution and framerate boosts for old Fallout games I'd never played. Seeing PS3 treated dirty here (when it can and currently IS being emulated elsewhere) is inexplicable, and no discussion of boosting games is telling.
Day one first party, yes, I understand the reasoning, and I've agreed with it in the past, but Game Pass provides this insane security and permanence. Okay, so Sony won't go Day 1 - but it should give us confidence that the library will be built over time and stay that way. Threatening limited availability of top titles from the outset is bonkers to me. Should be the exact opposite.
Finally, not throwing out third-party heavy hitters in the announcement is a massive red flag. They won't be aggressive. It won't have the bangers Microsoft is willing to pay for.
It's online play + PS Plus + non-boosted very old games. For more money. That's it.
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BabyfaceRe
Member
To get the oldest games in their catalog, you must pay for the highest tier? More nostalgia bait and another slap in the face for PS fans.
-No day 1 game.
-No details on what this catalog of old gen games is.
-Not everything is native, too much cloud streaming.
-Strictly worse than Game Pass in terms of pricing and quality releases.
-No mention of if DLC will be included with games like Ascension with Returnal. (though we all know the answer already.)
Not sure what I'm supposed to be excited about here? Playing PSP, PS2 and PS3 games is appealing, but no fucking chance am I paying for the most expensive tier to get my hands on the oldest and cheapest games in their library.
-No day 1 game.
-No details on what this catalog of old gen games is.
-Not everything is native, too much cloud streaming.
-Strictly worse than Game Pass in terms of pricing and quality releases.
-No mention of if DLC will be included with games like Ascension with Returnal. (though we all know the answer already.)
Not sure what I'm supposed to be excited about here? Playing PSP, PS2 and PS3 games is appealing, but no fucking chance am I paying for the most expensive tier to get my hands on the oldest and cheapest games in their library.
Mephisto40
Member
It sucks because the only option for most of the games is going to be to stream them, and streaming on PSNow is hit or miss at best, it's impossible to play games on it that require precise button inputs in my experience
Hitchyhero
Banned
Streaming PS3 games was obviously going to be the only option and I get that... But its very weird to put that in the highest tier considering it would be such a small niches. Why not put it in the mid tier and entice people to the more expensive tier with a few more PS5 games extra per month. They wouldn't even need to be new.
Perhaps I'm in my bubble but I don't know why any one would pay for the top tier as it currently stands.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And CDKeys for $30 on average every other month. Like most of us stack up with since the PS4 era.
TheGodfather07
Member
It's pretty easy trolling ammo. Xbox fans seem to think everything should be given on a subscription. It just doesnt work that way for sony and Nintendo. They were always gonna be trolled for no day 1 first party games even though we all knew that wasn't gonna happen already. It won't be happening anytime in the near future either.
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Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
I want the PS1 games I purchased on PS3/Vita to be counted and downloadable on PS4/5. This is just going to piss me off when I see these games offered on the sub service, but still not available to me on these newer systems.
graywolf323
Member
yeah which is what PS+ is already priced at, nothing changed in that regard whatsoever
yeah I'm subbed through 2031 thanks to that
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Topher
Identifies as young
The only option for games prior to PS4 is steaming. That hasn't changed.
ReBurn
Gold Member
It's been 10 bucks a month if you buy monthly for some time now. It's not more expensive. Yearly was always a better deal.
Trogdor1123
Member
That’s what I do too. I wonder how quick these will show up?
01011001
Banned
indeed you can, very easily too!
you even have the choice between multiple emulators for PS1, and PPSSPP for PSP runs like a charm. PS2 has some issues, but it also had issues in the existing officially released PS2 classics
spons
Gold Member
At least with Xbox you can purchase actual games from Argentina or Brazil or something for 10% of the price they ask in the West.
WoodyStare
Member
I’d like to know this as well. My subscription is good until 2024. I actually wouldn’t mind paying extra for Premium if they discounted and converted it.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's okay, we don't need to MSToo™ in a Sony thread.
We ofc know this, not mentioning doesn't detract.