LectureMaster
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Apparently they were using AI-generated art for loading screen also.
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Almost all of the actors that feature in the Zombies crew in Black Ops 6 have pulled out of working over the lack of AI protections in their contracts
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Apparently they were using AI-generated art for loading screen also.
Reizo Ryuu
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I wondered why sam sounded different, that's too bad, julie nathanson's maxis was perfect, she did the voice for over a decade...
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
They are using AI-generated content in their loading screens as well. Who knows where else.
Represent.
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Thousands of artists at their disposal and they use fucking AI. Gross company
Hrk69
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Represent.
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Dismissing real humans is worse. Theres no excuse to have access to thousands of artists and use AI. Just use a drawing thats already made or something, jesus. Disgusting cheap company.Dismissing AI is like shunning the printing press for replacing scribes
Make billions off of transactions, skins, Nicki Minaj, but cant pay an artist. Yeah ok.
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Hrk69
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Represent.
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go look at their earnings this year. they can afford to pay an artist. stop shilling for them and AI.
Hrk69
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Of course, they can afford it, but why should they pay when free alternatives are available? It's a company, not a charity.
You'd better get used to AI, it’s set to become a major part of gaming and media in the near future
xrnzaaas
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I bet it's intentional since this is Black Ops 6, right? Right?
LectureMaster
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Goalus
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What is so surprising about a monster having six fingers?
A hydra has three heads if I am not mistaken.
Deft Beck
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Just because you can't tell the difference doesn't mean a voice actor's performance isn't valuable.
If anything, it proves why we need a healthy and resilient market for amateurs and unknowns instead of the same bunch of big-name people in every AAA production.
Cyberpunkd
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Artist will take hours what an AI can do in 2 minutes.
Cyberpunkd
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If you can’t tell the difference the stuff will be replaced by AI, no use to cry over it. The larger problem is voice actors never pushed for being co-owners of artistic output. You see Kojima name on the box? You see voice actor’s voicing the main character?
Holammer
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I don't mind AI use, but a company with Activision's resources doing it this sloppily? That's just a sad display.
That's just it, it's probably used everywhere. This is one of few with the telltale signs of AI use.
If they noticed it in production they would have re-rendered the hand area or given it to an actual artist for a quick retouch.
That's just it, it's probably used everywhere. This is one of few with the telltale signs of AI use.
If they noticed it in production they would have re-rendered the hand area or given it to an actual artist for a quick retouch.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Every single calling card, emblem, loading screen, basically all "art" is AI.
BO6 is an AI hellscape of a game.
Deft Beck
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Sure, voice actors don't "own" a character. You cast them in a role, book them for studio time, direct them through the material, and then they walk out the door. Any other revenue from being that character comes from guest appearances at conventions where they take pictures with people and/or sign headshots.
Still, voice actors embody a character and bring it to life; then they see how that resonates with people around the world. To deny them the chance to act is to deny the humanity of acting as a creative discipline. That's worth fighting for.
Heisenberg007
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I reckon this phenomnon will only grow with future ABK and Xbox games.
Here is a 7-fingered human hand. I assume there is a thumb there but who knows
You know, of all the shit they could do with AI, for example, detect and ban cheaters, they go for artists.
It's not like that stuff is expensive, either. They probably could crank that shit out before the engineer is done typing his prompt and satisfied with the result.
ChorizoPicozo
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[XXX]How CoD's use of A. I. is putting Xbox ahead in the lawsuit race between artists and A.I. implementation.
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I understand AI will soon be good enough that it'll be impossible to tell the difference, but why are we just shrugging and accepting this?
I'm not comfortable with AI replacing humans in every artistic field, especially when the end result is a bigger rich/poor divide.
I'm not comfortable with AI replacing humans in every artistic field, especially when the end result is a bigger rich/poor divide.
Holammer
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The only alternative is to ban or control the Abominable Intelligence, but that's going to hurt your country and companies, giving a leg up to your competitors.
See the positives, give it a few years and a team of a couple dozen can produce a game on the scale of GTAV in record times.
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Cyberpunkd
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Yes, which is why companies view AI as the answer, plus it’s a licensing nightmare afterwards.
Trilobit
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Smart move. You never know what the contract stipulates. Suddenly the developer might sell the data of the likeness of an actor to other companies and the actor has no way to withdraw their permission. Any agent worth their money will warn their clients of all the risks that exist in non-ironclad contracts.
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BiggStankDogg
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This one is pretty egregious - strings are changing directions out of nowhere, some are connected in weird spiderweb-like areas, and most go through the middle of the pinheads.
IDKFA
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The only alternative is to ban or control the Abominable Intelligence, but that's going to hurt your country and companies, giving a leg up to your competitors.
See the positives, give it a few years and a team of a couple dozen can produce a game on the scale of GTAV in record times.
I see your point. However, could we not argue that AI will also impact countries as it could cause mass unemployment?
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No more than at least 5 fingers on digital avatars.
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StreetsofBeige
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Most voice acting in games is shit anyway. No wonder Activision seems interested in doing AI then.
I think in modern day gaming, assuming a game has some half decent budget and lots of employees, the graphics, music and overall gameplay are generally serviceable. Some better, some shittier, some unfairly nitpicked to death, but I;d say if there's one part of gaming that is still ultra cheese it's:
- Overall plot
- Dialogue
- Voice acting
I'm confident most people feel the same. A lot of the cringe moments come from some lousy script and voice cut scenes.
I think in modern day gaming, assuming a game has some half decent budget and lots of employees, the graphics, music and overall gameplay are generally serviceable. Some better, some shittier, some unfairly nitpicked to death, but I;d say if there's one part of gaming that is still ultra cheese it's:
- Overall plot
- Dialogue
- Voice acting
I'm confident most people feel the same. A lot of the cringe moments come from some lousy script and voice cut scenes.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
That was a very one sided video lol
Slightly different to AI as this is referring to automation in ports, something that's been around for decades. My problem with AI mixed with automation is the amount of jobs it can replace. Programming, data analysis, quality assurance, any contact centre or web chat, scheduling, writing, any artistic job including game development etc etc I could go on.
People like to use the industrial revolution as an example, but that event didn't replace as many jobs as AI/automation could potentially replace. If we see new jobs come out of this and people are better off financially then I'll be all for it, but I can't see that being the case. My fear is that it'll widen the rich and poor divide even more.
Varteras
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Most people who watched jobs go away thought it was terrible then because they couldn't imagine then how things would look on the other side. Every new technology is disruptive. Jobs are lost. Existing jobs get expanded head counts. New jobs are created. Less money is being spent here, so more money can go there. The little guys who couldn't afford huge headcounts like the big guys can now make products and services that compete.
The whole "sky is falling" rhetoric isn't new and, no, it's not different today. Revolutions happen and they change everything. Like the Industrial Revolution and the Agricultural Revolution. If you think some AI revolution is different or unique in how much it will change things compare to those in the past, you may want to dig a little more into how much life changed for people at those points in history.
We adapt to a new reality. The world keeps spinning. You'll have a job somewhere. It just won't be voice acting in a video game.
Puscifer
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I want to remember this post when it threatens your job. There's advertisements I'm seeing now saying shit like "AI won't complain about a work life balance" the people pushing this shit DO NOT have your best interest at heart.Dismissing AI is like shunning the printing press for replacing scribes
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I studied Early Modern Europe, including the Industrial Revolution as part of my history degree, which is why I don't believe it's correct to compare the AI revolution to the Industrial Revolution.
For example, people who were impacted by the Industrial Revolution still had employment. People went from mostly agrarian jobs to working in factories. This was disruptive for a number of reasons, including poor workers rights, the increase in child labour, unsafe working environments and mass migration into urban environments, which caused it's own host of problems (slums, workhouses etc).
There is also the speed of change that is different. People and governments had time to adapt to the Industrial Revolution, but The AI Revolution is happening at a much faster pace. Also while the Industrial Revolution replaced physical roles with machines, AI has the potential to automate cognitive tasks, affecting a wider range of jobs, including those in creative and professional fields.
StreetsofBeige
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Automation cuts some jobs but brings forth others.
All the photocopiers --> fax machines --> PC --> emails cut down administrative paper pushing jobs probably -90% alone the past 40 years. Companies and workers survived. It might suck for those old school paper pushing jobs, but it creates opportunity for other jobs.
To me, it comes down to how much people value those redundant jobs vs new jobs. IMO, 99.9% wont care. Ok, the retail workers will care, but most people arent retail workers for dead chains. Case in point, look at all the stores and chain shut down the past 20 years since online sales happened and Amazon took over. Look at all the awesome Blockbuster and mom and pop movie stores dead due to Netflix. Nobody cares, life moves on, and all people care about is how much shit they can get asap for as little money as possible (consumerism at good value), which is really no different than what companies gun for (as much money as possible with low costs).
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Varteras
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Imagine yourself as the ruler of any country or nation during a time of massive revolution. Regardless of what it was. It was a huge advancement. But you, believing yourself to be some benevolent ruler with what you believe to be the best interests of your people, said "No. We will not do this. Too many jobs will be lost right now. I don't know what the future would look like. Therefor I will not risk some of my people's immediate future for this advancement". But every other country around you jumped in. You'd be fucked. Your country would watch its standing in the world plummet and this would have a massively adverse affect on your people.
Those who embrace it will have a huge advantage over those who avoid it because of the worry of the disruption. Those dock worker jobs are relevant. No matter how much you wish to downplay it. Those docks that don't use automation are inefficient and dangerous. The ones that do are the ones people want their product to go through. Because it gets results. Jobs are lost sure. And as I said, existing jobs will get expanded headcounts and new jobs will get created. And jobs in other industries that are adversely affected by inefficient dock workers, or dock worker strikes, will have less to worry about. Like my friend who got laid off for two weeks because of it.
You can't point to a time in human history where this all wasn't the case. Only a relatively brief time of hardship for certain people. Like I said, upstart developers who can't afford big headcounts but have great ideas will now have more of a fighting chance to get their game out there and compete with the big guys. Instead of being hamstrung by not having $400 million to spend on people, space, and equipment. You're not a psychic. None of us are. I'm going to guess you're also not much of a visionary either. Which is fine, too. Because most people, myself included, really aren't. But your inability to see what this looks like on the other side is not only not a good enough reason to try and stop it, but it won't matter if you try.
Like in every revolution before, human society will be forever altered. Things we just assumed as perpetual won't be anymore. The status quo will change. Laws will change. Norms will change. Expectations will change. What the job market looks like will change. But what won't change is that people will have something to do. That we'll ultimately adapt to whatever that new world is. And it will be just as striking of a difference as it was when we stopped hunting and gathering and were finally able to plant ourselves and start making cities. Things will be different. Different doesn't mean bad.
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Unknown Soldier
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Studio chuckles and replaces all the zombies voices with AI too
EverydayBeast
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AI is having its moment, great opportunity to repair AI, improve it.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Games take years to make so artists have enough time to finish their work.
FunkMiller
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Everyone who champions AI now, when it takes their jobs in a few years:
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