outunderthestars
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Mairu said:
They put some some statement about not expecting a new e-ink kindle until 2012. The android tablet is their focus for 2011
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Amazon Kindle |OT| of eInk superiority
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They put some some statement about not expecting a new e-ink kindle until 2012. The android tablet is their focus for 2011
outunderthestars
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http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/no-new-e-ink-displays-for-kindle-until-2012/24151
Amazon has said that they won't release a new e-ink Kindle until the next generation of displays are ready, which looks like 2012
Amazon has said that they won't release a new e-ink Kindle until the next generation of displays are ready, which looks like 2012
HiroProtagonist
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Snaku said:
rude. :\
The screens are the same dimensions, but the Nooks bezel makes it look more squat. It's 6.5" x 5.0" - 1.5" from being a square.
Snaku said:
Thats exactly it, it is all personal and fact we have all this competition just makes it even better for everyone involved. The Nook is a nice device, and I spent about a month deciding which I wanted to get - Kindle 3 or the original, back in September last year. My father owns the original 3G model Nook and the fact it had Android made me horny but something about it irked me.
Mainly the thing about deleting, the battery life and I found the interface very unintuitive. For instance, if I want to change fonts on the Kindle I simply press the font key whereas on the Nook just getting the touch screen to light up was a press in itself to start with.
HiroProtagonist
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For anyone interested, here is a list of the "special offers" offered to KSO users:
Seriously? 50% off the lighted leather case? /jealous
Seriously? 50% off the lighted leather case? /jealous
outunderthestars
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HiroProtagonist said:
I can pm you the code and you can see if it works. I already have a nice case.
I've saved about $150 so far thanks to the special offers. I <3 my Roku
HiroProtagonist
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outunderthestars said:
Thanks, but I already have one. I'm just jealous that you guys get it @ half off.
Amazon should offer an opt-in option for pre-KSO customers. I'm not sure if I'd sign-up, but those offers are tempting.outunderthestars
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swoon said:
No, the window to get the codes sent is small. Once that code arrives you have months to go redeem it though.
Trent Strong
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I don't get the lighted cover. Back in my day, people had lamps.
Jayayess1190 said:
Hysterical that Amazon would so brazenly edit their info like that, especially when it's inaccurate. From that link:
The new Nook's battery life is at least twice as long as the Kindle's under equal conditions. Shameful of Amazon to try and steal B&N's thunder on this specific point lol.
Marty Chinn
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Mairu said:
It's just nice not to constantly have to charge it.
And it's not like that's the only differentiator. Amazon decided to go after the tablet market this year and will simply have to concede the ePaper battle for 2011. It's a reversal of last year where Amazon had the better eReader and B&N had a tablet (that's a hackers' dream).
They'll just have to live with the choice.
They'll just have to live with the choice.
outunderthestars
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Raistlin said:
The Kindle will still outsell the Nook 5 to 1 with ease this year. E-reader customers aren't tech savvy and Amazon has market recognition. They won't care about minor differences in technology, as much as they will buy a Kindle because their friends have Kindles.
outunderthestars
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Raistlin said:
The Nooks sold between 1-2 million last year
http://ceoutlook.com/1-million-nooks-sold/
The Kindles sold between 8 -10 million.
HiroProtagonist
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outunderthestars said:
This was from E Ink marketing vice president Sri Peruvemba, not anyone from Amazon. It's just saying that there will be no new display, not that Amazon won't release a Kindle revision. Amazon could still release a IR equipped touch - Kindle with the pearl display, or even (I highly doubt) release a new Kindle with screens from another manufacturer. Who knows what they're doing.
outunderthestars
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Raistlin said:
You said they are conceding the market. I disagreed seeing as they dominated the combined sales of both the nook and nook color last year and continue to do so this year. When you control close to 70% of an entire market you reach a point of consumer association. That means that when someone decides to get an e-reader they'll most likely just get a Kindle and not bother researching other options.
There were/are much better mp3 players than ipods, better phones than iphones, and better tablets than ipads, yet all three continue to dominate their respective markets, for the same reason that the Kindle is dominating its. Marketshare is more important than technical innovation.
outunderthestars
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Raistlin said:
When has the market ever cared about who has the better product?
Jesus fucking christ.
My only point in this thread (at least in the past few days) was hey guys check out their new reader it's pretty sweet
Holy fucking fanboy. When has gaf given a fuck about the market unless they were trolling? Apparently my only console should be a Wii?
My only point in this thread (at least in the past few days) was hey guys check out their new reader it's pretty sweet
Holy fucking fanboy. When has gaf given a fuck about the market unless they were trolling? Apparently my only console should be a Wii?
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
You're flying off the handle over nothing. All he did was post relevant information on sales comparison and you're sperging out like he stabbed your mother. He didn't even post it to argue with you, really. Instead, it was a contribution to a natural progression of the subject. Relax yourself, champ.Raistlin said:
He's right. It doesn't really matter that the Nook is the better product right now because people are still going to want the Kindle due to its popularity.
Loki said:
This is according to B&N. Nobody has a test unit yet to actually try out their battery claims. Companies always inflate the battery numbers, just look at Apple and iPhone, I don't get near the battery performance they talk about unless I keep the phone in airplane mode and never use it LOL
Raistlin said:
Poster above is correct, you are flying off the handle for nothing. Your statement that Amazon is "conceding the e-ink market this year" is ridiculous when they outsell all other eInk readers and most likely will continue to do so. All the bells and whistles don't get people to run out and buy a product, if they did everyone would have bought the Sony touch-screen eInk reader that's been out for months. It basically has the same features as the new Nook. Amazon can afford to wait and announce a new line of Kindles with brand new technology that trumps the Pearl screen and everyone will be on board. They're not conceding anything.
Marty Chinn said:
I have to agree with the other poster. When you don't have to charge something for 3-4 weeks, it's not like it's a chore to charge it. I'm so used to having to charge my damn phone every day that charging the Kindle once a month is a breeze. At a certain point, 1 month, 2 months it makes little difference.
Leona Lewis
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Why don't owners of the ad-free Kindle have a chance to enjoy these offers? It'd only boost the sales of the partners Amazon is working with, plus it seems really unfair. I'd understand if the only incentive to get the Kindle w/ads was the deals, but it's cheaper than the regular Kindle too. Grrr.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Manics said:
Sadly it becomes a problem for me since it lasts so long I forget to charge and have had it die on me more than once while reading. :lol
Great...At this rate, with all the new announcements, I will never be able to decide.
With the Kobo and the Nook being tied to actual brick-and-mortar stores, will bankruptcy, company dissolution have an effect on the lifespan of these devices? Amazon ain't going anywhere so maybe Kindle is the safest bet?
With the Kobo and the Nook being tied to actual brick-and-mortar stores, will bankruptcy, company dissolution have an effect on the lifespan of these devices? Amazon ain't going anywhere so maybe Kindle is the safest bet?
Your Excellency
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Guys, do you turn the Kindle off so that the screensaver is displayed? Or do you turn it off 'properly' to save energy?
Just bought one...
Just bought one...
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It doesn't use energy to display things. That's the point of e-ink.Your Excellency said:
Jayayess1190
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Barnes and Noble books uses ePub, and with Calibre you can buy a book from Amazon and convert it to ePub to read on the Nook or Kobo.Help Me! said:
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Just picked up Heart of Darkness, since it's free. Never did read through it before - am I in for good things?
Your Excellency
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I can't believe it's not using any energy when the screensaver is on. That is mental.
Admittedly I was drunk, and it seemed he was missing my (poorly communicated) point.Manics said:
Sorry outunderthestars
What I was trying to say was concede the e-ink market in terms of tech and features.
Again, I give zero poops to sales. I'm talking about the better product. Nook will IMO have a fairly sizable tech and feature advantage for nearly a year.
Regarding the Sony though, it's not really a perfect comparison. Their touch unit is quite a bit more expensive, the eReader software itself is missing a lot of Nook's features (even Kindle is versus Nook - stuff like public library usage (I know the Sony can use this), a functional lending/borrowing model, social media features, in-store specials, etc), and the requirement to sideload via a PC is obviously less practical for many people.
Jayayess1190
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Yes, with next firmware update supposedly.Help Me! said: