Zaraki_Kenpachi
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HiroProtagonist said:
Well it's really going to depend on what they reveal.
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Amazon Kindle |OT| of eInk superiority
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Well it's really going to depend on what they reveal.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
HiroProtagonist said:
Meh. I'm really happy with my Kindo.
Amazon could drop the price. That might be reason enough to wait a few weeks.
For my part I just got a Kindle a week ago and ordered it knowing that there could be a new version in a few/several months. Doesn't really matter to me since I really want one for the summer and am not particularly worried about new technologies (eg, colour) yet.
For my part I just got a Kindle a week ago and ordered it knowing that there could be a new version in a few/several months. Doesn't really matter to me since I really want one for the summer and am not particularly worried about new technologies (eg, colour) yet.
Good to hear.outunderthestars said:
PjotrStroganov
Member
I bet there won't be a colour e-ink reader for a while.
And I'm happy as can be with my current kindle. I just want to read books on it and it suits me fine.
And I'm happy as can be with my current kindle. I just want to read books on it and it suits me fine.
I wish pubs would get on the ball with pricing. Selling the digital copy for basically the same as the physical isn't cool. My grandfather wants me to read unbroken, I don't wanna spend 13 bones on it. I guess a lot of people bitched at Amazon since some books say that the price is set by the publisher.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
kaskade said:
IIRC they added that after the agreements changed when the iPad came out.
I received a Kindle for Christmas and to be honest, I rarely use it. I have yet to pay for anything on it, though I've loaded it with free books and games.
I'd love to be able to use it for documents at school made available online, but it's just not the most functional when I've tried it.
I'm just curious if you guys can help me start taking advantage of this nifty device. I know I can make use of it, I'm just not sure how. If that question is too vague, guide me to cool free things to do or help me out with easing the school PDF's process (getting it on the Kindle, making it work well, basically hassle-free).
I understand this is a pretty general question, but I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to say. HOORAY SUPER FAST POORLY THOUGHT OUT POSTS!
I'd love to be able to use it for documents at school made available online, but it's just not the most functional when I've tried it.
I'm just curious if you guys can help me start taking advantage of this nifty device. I know I can make use of it, I'm just not sure how. If that question is too vague, guide me to cool free things to do or help me out with easing the school PDF's process (getting it on the Kindle, making it work well, basically hassle-free).
I understand this is a pretty general question, but I hope you guys understand what I'm trying to say. HOORAY SUPER FAST POORLY THOUGHT OUT POSTS!
PotatoeMasher
Member
kaskade said:
I've noticed many of the new releases I'd like to buy are more expensive than a hardcover copy. Fucking ridiculous.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
ngower said:
Not really? You just put the pdfs on the kindle... Is the formating wonky or what about the pdfs on it is bad? And I'm not sure about "cool things". It's an ereader, it's used to read books.
Jayayess1190
Member
Buy some books?ngower said:
HiroProtagonist said:
This isn't an issue for people who purchased a Kindle wanting an e-Ink reader. All signs point to Amazon releasing a new tablet which will be LCD based technology. This in no way competes with a dedicated eReader like the Kindle currently is. I would never switch to LCD after reading on an e-Ink device.
Sent said:I'm pretty sure they don't want to lower the prices at all, no matter what we scream at themI have a hard time paying Kindle price when it's 3x the paperbook price.
3x the paperbook price? Most new Kindle releases are $9.99 to $12.99, you're telling me you can get the same in paperback for $3?
Very true. They wanna make money. Now that the base is growing maybe they'll see that it's a real market. Amazon is awesome with their MP3 store, they get some pretty low prices on relatively new albums.Sent said:I'm pretty sure they don't want to lower the prices at all, no matter what we scream at them
Also, for LA Noire fans. http://www.rockstargames.com/lanoire/features/stories/
They are releasing some noire stories that'll be .99 for the collection.
HiroProtagonist
Member
Manics said:
It rumor is "the new B&N ereader may be a low priced, monochrome, compact Nook device that would compete with the Amazon Kindle."
I imagine it's probably just an eink nook with the touch LCD removed - with a smaller/sleeker form factor.
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Well sometimes the PDFs are a little awkward to read, like it requires me to zoom in and then pan left to right, it's not like reading an e-book where zooming on the text pushes text to other pages.
Jayayess1190 said:
I prefer the physical format any day of the week, but if the ebook were substantially cheaper (think Amazon mp3 cheap albums versus CD/vinyl version of the album) I'd bite. I still can grab plenty of philosophy and history texts for free so it's not that big of a deal, and I probably have about 150 books on the kindle I want to read here and there.
HiroProtagonist
Member
Manics said:
No doubt Kindle will remain king, but I'm interested to see how Amazon responds to B&N. They seem very good about responding to competition. (Unlike some companies - I'm lookin' at you Nintendo!)
Edit: I just realized that I posted essentially the same thing twice. I wasn't trying to be an ass - I'm just so focused on the Parks and Rec season finale that my brain would not form a new thought.
outunderthestars
Banned
PotatoeMasher said:
Kindle versions are less than the paperback or hardcover price. Walk into a book store and you'll see a major difference. Amazon however, aggressively discounts those books, whereas the kindle version is not discounted by the publisher.
It just shows how much better it would be if Amazon still controlled pricing on kindle books.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
outunderthestars said:
I think thats a big problem for most that would buy a Kindle tho..they're use to the 30% off price that amazon has on every book and don't buy books at book stores at list price anymore.
to Us..the price difference between Amazons Paper books and Kindle books isn't enough.
VistraNorrez
Member
E-books, depending on the e-reader, have a lot of advantages over physical books. You can change font, font size, words per line, there's a built in dictionary, you can search much easier, and it can weigh less than a paperback. And it isn't easy to digitize a physical book you own, unlike a CD and to a lesser extent vinyl. I easily prefer reading on my Kindle over a physical book.ngower said:
They should be cheaper than the physical book and I think 9.99 is reasonable for a new release. The problem isn't really Amazon, they started the Kindle store with the 9.99 price but the publisher's didn't like it (with some good reason, by the way) and decided to put up some ridiculous prices. And those prices are going to stay for a while because it seems like most people don't have a problem with them.
The price increases have really kept me from using my Kindle as much as I thought I would. I live in a modest size town with a really good library and so I'd rather just go and borrow a book instead of paying $13 for it.
Just today I read some good stuff about http://www.amazon.com/Switch-Change-Things-When-Hard/dp/0385528752/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1305829850&sr=1-1. Paperback is under $7 while the Kindle version is $12. Instead of buying either I'm just going to grab a copy at the library after work.
Just today I read some good stuff about http://www.amazon.com/Switch-Change-Things-When-Hard/dp/0385528752/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1305829850&sr=1-1. Paperback is under $7 while the Kindle version is $12. Instead of buying either I'm just going to grab a copy at the library after work.
I was browsing this page couple of hours ago at work and the book was 9.99$, and just when I was prepared to pay for it now -- guess what? It's free.
2:46: Aftershocks: Stories from the Japan Earthquake http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004VP3KHK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
GET IT! I'm sure it's a fantastic read, and now totally free. Kindle rocks.
2:46: Aftershocks: Stories from the Japan Earthquake http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004VP3KHK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
GET IT! I'm sure it's a fantastic read, and now totally free. Kindle rocks.
Phantast2k
Member
Echoes said:
They're doing it wrong..
Jayayess1190
Member
Can't argue with free. Bought!Phantast2k said:
My kindle arrived on tuesday and I could not be more surprised at how awesome this thing actually is. I'm actually cancelling my Dance of Dragons preorder and switching to the Kindle version. Being able to type notes, highlight passages and search through books is just amazing. First thing I did was to install the wallpaper jailbreak to get these amazing backgrounds. I also tried viewing some manga I converted with mangle, which is also pretty great. The text is a bit small in places but still perfectly readable.
Overall I'm astonished at how quickly I warmed to the whole E-Book idea. I thought I'd actually miss having the paper in my hands but within minutes I fell in love with this thing.
Also, I'm really glad i picked the cover with the little light. Reading in bed with the light on and the rainymood mp3 as background music is simply the best reading experience I've ever had.
One of my favourite features is the built in dictionary. Not being a native english speaker there are quite a few words I actually have to look up when I'm reading english books, and being able to just move the cursor to a word an getting a definition blew my mind.
TL;DR: I love my Kindle!
Overall I'm astonished at how quickly I warmed to the whole E-Book idea. I thought I'd actually miss having the paper in my hands but within minutes I fell in love with this thing.
Also, I'm really glad i picked the cover with the little light. Reading in bed with the light on and the rainymood mp3 as background music is simply the best reading experience I've ever had.
One of my favourite features is the built in dictionary. Not being a native english speaker there are quite a few words I actually have to look up when I'm reading english books, and being able to just move the cursor to a word an getting a definition blew my mind.
TL;DR: I love my Kindle!
Slappers Only
Junior Member
From an outsider's perspective, how long until we get a color eInk Kindle that also performs just as well in B&W mode as the current Kindle does? Is this even feasible?
I'm trying not to care about e-readers until I can get color without backlighting.
I'm trying not to care about e-readers until I can get color without backlighting.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Slappers Only said:
It's not clear that there's going to be a color eInk Kindle.
Slappers Only
Junior Member
Ah, disappointing. I suppose the screen has to live up to the tech's good name.Stumpokapow said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Slappers Only said:
Slappers Only
Junior Member
Flawless.JoshuaJSlone said:
HiroProtagonist
Member
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
HiroProtagonist said:
Amazon: We sell 105 Kindle books to every 100 paper books, free downloads excluded
Dvorak: SHOW ME THE NUMBERS
... they just did. They can go out and say "We sell 205,000,000 million books this year. 105,000,000 of them were Kindle, 100,000,000 paper", but how does that really provide any more information than what they've already shown?
Dvorak said:
"I live in a rather special world. I only know one person who voted for Nixon. Where they are I don't know. They're outside my ken. But sometimes when I'm in a theater I can feel them." - Pauline Kael
Dvorak said:
By "just surpassed", he means almost a year ago, and Amazon is saying that they're selling 3 times as more Kindle books in 2011 than in 2010, so I'm not sure how this landmark is hard to believe.
Does he not believe they're selling three times as many books this year, or does he believe that number but not believe that that's high enough to exceed paper books?
Especially given that if he buys their "surpassed hardcover sales" press release from mid-2010, he's gotta buy their "surpassed softcover sales" press release from late-2010, and I'm not sure how you can't put two and two together and see that this was the next and obvious milestone
Dvorak said:
1) No they're not counting used books. They don't sell used books. Other people sell used books on Amazon marketplace. Is Dvorak dumb?
2) Yes, short books are counted. Why wouldn't they be? A short paperback book is counted just like a short Kindle book is counted. Saying 25 page mini-essays don't count is ridiculous, like excluding poetry anthologies from bound books would be.
Trojita said:
Two Kindles can have the same account, yes.
Smithy C said:
Of course I have 400 books on my Kindle only to make myself look smart! It's not like I buy them because I want to read them. Pfft. Who actually reads books? They're just shelf decoration these days.
Why would I even talk to others about how many books I have? I don't even notice how many books I have. I just think about what I'm going to read next. And what would be the point of spending a bunch of money on a dedicated device for reading e-books if you're only going to have a couple? People who buy this sort of thing are usually the kind of people who read a ton. This makes it easier for those people. That's the point.
Ugh... someone who thinks reading is just for those who show off and put on airs...
Ivan A Nguyen
Member
I read this article as well. This is a classic example of the 'This does not fit my world view so I must not accept it' that is so prevalent in online discourse. This shouldn't be a paid article, this should just be the Youtube reaction shot of him reading the announcement and saying "Nu'uh!"
Really? I only do about 10% travel, but I can't remember the last time I got on a plane where I didn't see someone with a Kindle or a Nook. I've seen maybe one Sony reader while traveling, but the sample size of 20 flights a year multiplied by the six or seven people I can see on each flight doesn't make me think that no one has a Sony reader either.Dvorak said:
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
I tried that, but unless you have a US credit card/billing address the email comes pretty quick. I got it almost instantly.Jintor said:
PjotrStroganov
Member
I hope he is in the next TWIT podcast. There usually are others that oppose his knee-jerk reactions.
overthehill99
Member
What's up with Kindle books not having chapter markers? I just bought 1984, and it doesn't have them. Shouldn't that be a requirement for all books?