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[matmanx1]

So much depends on pricing here. I'm going to do a GPU upgrade as soon as the new cards are available and prices are firm. I don't necessarily need the newest and greatest (I would be happy with a 980 if the impending 980Ti launch cases prices of the 980 to drop significantly) but I do want the best bang for the buck and I do want something more powerful than a single 970 or a single 290X.

The next few weeks should be really interesting.

 

[BeforeU]

This looks really good. When are they officially announcing this?

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

This looks really good. When are they officially announcing this?

Nvidia 980 Ti in under two weeks most likely. AMD 390X around the same time although might only be available to buy later next month.

 

[jfoul]

AMD Fiji XT Pictured Some More

AMD Teaser Video

"The PCB is extremely compact, with just the GPU package, and its VRM. Speaking of which, the card draws power from a pair of 8-pin PCIe power connectors. The coolant tubes stick out from the rear of the card, making their way to a 120 x 120 mm radiator, with a single included 120 mm PWM fan. With this card, AMD is doing away with DVI altogether. Connectors will be a mixture of DisplayPort 1.2a and HDMI 2.0."

 

[Wag]

Be nice to know if it has more than 4GB. Even if it didn't, and performed as fast or faster than the Titan X I'm not sure it would be adequate for 4k gaming with only 4GB.

 

[pettson3816]

Be nice to know if it has more than 4GB. Even if it didn't, and performed as fast or faster than the Titan X I'm not sure it would be adequate for 4k gaming with only 4GB.

IIRC it's practically confirmed that the cards will have 4gb ram.

 

[UnrealEck]

This is such a hard decision because of the memory. I only play at 1080p at the moment so it might still be a good card for playing games on their highest settings.
Pity we don't have the ability to combine memory yet.

 

[pettson3816]

This is such a hard decision because of the memory. I only play at 1080p at the moment so it might still be a good card for playing games on their highest settings.
Pity we don't have the ability to combine memory yet.

Just let the benchmarks decide.

 

[PFD]

Bring it on AMD. Do we have an announcement date yet?

 

[bomblord1]

AMD Fiji XT Pictured Some More

AMD Teaser Video

"The PCB is extremely compact, with just the GPU package, and its VRM. Speaking of which, the card draws power from a pair of 8-pin PCIe power connectors. The coolant tubes stick out from the rear of the card, making their way to a 120 x 120 mm radiator, with a single included 120 mm PWM fan. With this card, AMD is doing away with DVI altogether. Connectors will be a mixture of DisplayPort 1.2a and HDMI 2.0."

Woah woah woah woah woah. My second monitor only has a DVI and VGA port and there are monitors on the market today you can buy that are the same.

 

[Nostremitus]

Woah woah woah woah woah. My second monitor only has a DVI and VGA port and there are monitors on the market today you can buy that are the same.

I'm guessing that's only for the reference model.

 

[desu]

Woah woah woah woah woah. My second monitor only has a DVI and VGA port and there are monitors on the market today you can buy that are the same.

You could buy an adapter, but yeah dunno why they would ditch the dvi. Maybe they'll include an adapter from the start.

 

[Hamster Plugin]

With this card, AMD is doing away with DVI altogether. Connectors will be a mixture of DisplayPort 1.2a and HDMI 2.0."

Oh, this worries me. I have 2 monitors and a TV connected, and none of them take DisplayPort. TV and my 1st monitor can take HDMI input, but 2nd monitor requires either VGA or DVI (solvable via adapter?).

 

[Ryne]

For me, the cheaper one wins. Hopefully we will get some benchmarks comparing the two upcoming cards soon.

 

[PFD]

Yeah i have one of those cheap korean 1440p 27" monitors that will only accept dual-link DVI. I hope these cards will support it

 

[Renekton]

Oh, this worries me. I have 2 monitors and a TV connected, and none of them take DisplayPort. TV and my 1st monitor can take HDMI input, but 2nd monitor requires either VGA or DVI (solvable via adapter?).

Yea can use adapter but it feels inelegant somehow

 

[Krauser Kat]

Woah woah woah woah woah. My second monitor only has a DVI and VGA port and there are monitors on the market today you can buy that are the same.

it probably comes with a dvi/hdmi connector. I have a couple laying around.

 

[Bastardo]

Woah woah woah woah woah. My second monitor only has a DVI and VGA port and there are monitors on the market today you can buy that are the same.

Nowadays I would always prefer a card with only hdmi + dp or even only dp, even though my monitor is DVI only, too.

Reason being: Usually DVI takes a lot of space on the back, which can be used for better airflow. Of course this point is moot with a watercooled card.

 

[Exalted]

Both Intel and AMD have announced that they were droping suport for "legacy" display outputs in 2015 almost 4 years back. Displayport and HDMI are the future.

 

[bomblord1]

Both Intel and AMD have announced that they were droping suport for "legacy" display outputs in 2015 almost 4 years back. Displayport and HDMI are the future.

What about a dual link DVI should be considered legacy? Is it just the age?

 

[PumpkinSpice]

What about a dual link DVI should be considered legacy? Is it just the age?

Probably they don't like the size of the port honestly.

 

[zoobzone]

My Dell U2713H only came with a mini-DP to DisplayPort cable - the monitor accepts DisplayPorts only.

My GTX980 comes with no cables and only has DisplayPorts.

I was forced to use Dual Link DVI.

 

[Pagusas]

Woah woah woah woah woah. My second monitor only has a DVI and VGA port and there are monitors on the market today you can buy that are the same.

You'll have no issue, an HDMI to DVI cord results in no quality loss as the pin count and signal are the same. No worries at all. Hell you won't even notice honestly as an HDMI to DVI cord is no thicker than a regular cord, just one end has HDMI and one end has DVI.

 

[bomblord1]

You'll have no issue, an HDMI to DVI cord results in no quality loss as the pin count and signal are the same. No worries at all. Hell you won't even notice honestly as an HDMI to DVI cord is no thicker than a regular cord, just one end has HDMI and one end has DVI.

I have had trouble with adapters from HDMI to DVI not working in the past.

 

[Irobot82]

I have had trouble with adapters from HDMI to DVI not working in the past.

Mkenyon pointed out that Dual Link DVI to another source doesn't work very well. But if you are using a DVI to HDMI etc you are fine. I think the dual link dvi's are used on anything larger than 1080p like those 1440p Korean monitors.

 

[matmanx1]

AMD Fiji XT Pictured Some More

AMD Teaser Video

"The PCB is extremely compact, with just the GPU package, and its VRM. Speaking of which, the card draws power from a pair of 8-pin PCIe power connectors. The coolant tubes stick out from the rear of the card, making their way to a 120 x 120 mm radiator, with a single included 120 mm PWM fan. With this card, AMD is doing away with DVI altogether. Connectors will be a mixture of DisplayPort 1.2a and HDMI 2.0."

Oooh! We're getting closer, aren't we? I'm guessing the first reviews will start popping up after the event next week (on the 3rd, unless I am remembering wrong?). I just hope pricing is competitive and availability is decent.

 

[dgrdsv]

AMD Radeon 300 series to arrive on June 16th

 

[Shambles]

AMD Fiji XT Pictured Some More

AMD Teaser Video

"The PCB is extremely compact, with just the GPU package, and its VRM. Speaking of which, the card draws power from a pair of 8-pin PCIe power connectors. The coolant tubes stick out from the rear of the card, making their way to a 120 x 120 mm radiator, with a single included 120 mm PWM fan. With this card, AMD is doing away with DVI altogether. Connectors will be a mixture of DisplayPort 1.2a and HDMI 2.0."

Mmmmm I like shorter GPUs. They are ridiculously long these days. My GPU is more of an S shape than straight thanks to how long and heavy it is. If nothing else HBM is exciting for shortening these cards.

 

[KojiKnight]

The PC centric E3 show is starting to make more and more sense.

 

[Renekton]

SweClockers claim that AMD has given a red light to all board partners for any kind of presentations or public announcement happening at Computex. It is quite disappointing to say at least.

If that’s all true, then the only new card to be shown at Computex is GeForce GTX 980 Ti.

Eek I'm not 100% sure that is a good idea.

 

[opticalmace]

The PC centric E3 show is starting to make more and more sense.

Good point.

Eek I'm not 100% sure that is a good idea.

Eh, guess they'll announce at E3. Not so bad.

 

[desu]

AMD Radeon 300 series to arrive on June 16th

Good bye, I really don't know why they taking so much time ...

 

[matmanx1]

AMD Radeon 300 series to arrive on June 16th

E3 reveal makes sense in the context of "this is a gamer-centric card being revealed at a gamer-centric event" but I was selfishly hoping for a Computex reveal as that would be sooner. Oh well.

Letting Nvidia hit with the 980Ti first doesn't seem smart but maybe AMD is banking on folks taking a wait and see approach since the Fiji series is something so new and different.

 

[jfoul]

Gigabyte G1 GAMING Radeon R9 380

 

[Theonik]

Gigabyte G1 GAMING Radeon R9 380

GDDR5?
Edit: oh right this isn't Fiji.

 

[jfoul]

GDDR5?
Edit: oh right this isn't Fiji.

It's not exciting like the 980ti info right now, but it's something. The 380 & 380X are interesting because they seem to be based on Tonga/Tonga XT with 2/4GB. I think the 380/X will be slotted below and above the GTX960. The 390/X will be competitive with GTX970/980, but sporting 8GB.

 

[Hazaro]

Hoping for surprise news at Computex now nVidia has put ball in their court.

 

[Renekton]

Hoping for surprise news at Computex now nVidia has put ball in their court.

They are saving for E3 <__<

 

[Nikodemos]

It's not exciting like the 980ti info right now, but it's something. The 380 & 380X are interesting because they seem to be based on Tonga/Tonga XT with 2/4GB. I think the 380/X will be slotted below and above the GTX960. The 390/X will be competitive with GTX970/980, but sporting 8GB.

I sure hope so. The current 290X, while reasonably powerful in its own right, lacks a great deal of optimisations/tweaks brought about by Tonga (not least of which the improved tesselation and colour compression). I hope the rumour about 285 being made from chips rejected by Apple is true, and the 'real' Tonga to be unveiled soon(ish).

 

[Paganmoon]

Woah woah woah woah woah. My second monitor only has a DVI and VGA port and there are monitors on the market today you can buy that are the same.

I recall my 7970 reference card came with a Displayport -> DVI adapter in the box, shouldn't be a problem.

 

[martino]

They should call it the AMD Zeus

Zeus if it perform less. Uranus if it performs better.

 

[matmanx1]

It's not exciting like the 980ti info right now, but it's something. The 380 & 380X are interesting because they seem to be based on Tonga/Tonga XT with 2/4GB. I think the 380/X will be slotted below and above the GTX960. The 390/X will be competitive with GTX970/980, but sporting 8GB.

What's Tonga? A new chipset revision? Sorry I've been out of the loop for a while.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

is this a rebrand? do we have an idea what the 290 will be rebranded as? will a 390/390X compete with 970/980?

 

[Arkanius]

The announcement was delayed/not today?
Good job AMD, you are losing the Enthusiast market to Nvidia due opportunity.

 

[dgrdsv]

What's Tonga? A new chipset revision? Sorry I've been out of the loop for a while.

Tonga is a chip used for Radeon R9 285. It is currently the newest and the only discreet chip (or is it? not sure about this) using GCN v1.2 architecture.

 

[The Llama]

Tonga is a chip used for Radeon R9 285. It is currently the newest and the only discreet chip (or is it? not sure about this) using GCN v1.2 architecture.

Yeah I think that's right. 7xxx series and the 270's/280's use GCN 1.0, the 290's use GCN 1.1, and then Tonga is 1.2. I'm guessing the entire 3xx series will be 1.2 based. But that's just a guess!

 

[TouchMyBox]

Tonga is a chip used for Radeon R9 285. It is currently the newest and the only discreet chip (or is it? not sure about this) using GCN v1.2 architecture.

What's it trying to be discreet about though?

 

[Marlenus]

is this a rebrand? do we have an idea what the 290 will be rebranded as? will a 390/390X compete with 970/980?

I have read that Fiji is being manufactured on GFs 28nm process so the same might apply to the 390 and 380 models too. If that is the case a chip based on Hawaii with Tonga's improvements and a clock bump could match a 980 and GFs process has much lower leakage so the power consumption will also be reduced vs the 290X. It would be a competitive product if it is true.

 

[dgrdsv]

Yeah I think that's right. 7xxx series and the 270's/280's use GCN 1.0, the 290's use GCN 1.1, and then Tonga is 1.2. I'm guessing the entire 3xx series will be 1.2 based. But that's just a guess!

Unlikely as this would mean that they'll have to rebuild all chips but Tonga for 300 series. We already know that most of 300 series are made of rebadged 200 series.

What's it trying to be discreet about though?

Hah, don't shoot me, I'm Russian. I was going for discrete of course.

 

[The Llama]

Unlikely as this would mean that they'll have to rebuild all chips but Tonga for 300 series. We already know that most of 300 series are made of rebadged 200 series.

It's been so long since the 2xx series launched, I think it's a strong possibility. But we'll know soon enough. Either way, yeah, the 3xx series will basically be "clones" of the 2xx series. I just think they'll base them off the newer architecture.