That's what I'm afraid of.
Since I assume both NV and AMD will do that I guess we won't get a real high-end desktop part until the end of the year.
I'd be perfectly happy with a mid-range flagship, as long as it significantly outperforms, say, a 970, across the board, especially at higher resolutions.Given that the new Finfet node is considerably more expensive, there's no doubt they'll mostly harp about the power efficiency and size. Extra transistors won't be free though, so high end is going to be very expensive, and most likely they'll seriously cut the chip sizes. You can't seriously expect AMD or Nvidia to just make a 600 mm^2 chip right out of the gate. This will no doubt disappoint people who are expecting a new Titan by next summer. More than likely all we get to see this year is a mid-range flagship like the 980 that they'll try to sell for $600.
Hmm. This is from techreport review with 5960x running crysis3.
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I guess 140W is doable with 4790k then.
That's what I'm afraid of.
Since I assume both NV and AMD will do that I guess we won't get a real high-end desktop part until the end of the year.
What is high-end now? The $600+ cards?
When I got my 7950 back in 2012. $350 was second best card slot. Are we expecting that or is everything shifted up to like $500 plus.
That's still more or less the case. The single card flagship is $500, the step down is 350-ish. Above $500 you get the Titans, double GPU cards, etc.
And you would be right....the 950 replaced the 750ti as giving the best perf/watt at the low end, so they're probably comparing their lowest end Polaris card to the 950.Yh in the video they do say it's a "comparable" GPU to it though.
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If am not wrong in saying 950 probably has the best perf/watt in maxwell so I could guess they are trying to show the improvements at their best.
Since 2011, both companies have used 28nm production - meaning that each transistor on the chip is one billionth of a metre long.
Everything they have said suggests that they're first launching lower end products.
Yields with these new processes will favour smaller dies at the start.
What does "lower end" mean in this context? The equivalent of R9 390 or the 970?
about that ...I honestly hope all the noise about power efficiency (a good thing, mind you) is not indicative of them not having high-end and/or enthusiast class products at the start.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9886/amd-reveals-polaris-gpu-architecture/2Meanwhile RTG has also disclosed that the first Polaris parts are GDDR5 based. Going hand-in-hand with what I mentioned earlier about RTGs Polaris demonstration, it seems likely that this means well see the lower-end Polaris parts first, with high-end parts to follow.
Given that the new Finfet node is considerably more expensive, there's no doubt they'll mostly harp about the power efficiency and size. Extra transistors won't be free though, so high end is going to be very expensive, and most likely they'll seriously cut the chip sizes. You can't seriously expect AMD or Nvidia to just make a 600 mm^2 chip right out of the gate. This will no doubt disappoint people who are expecting a new Titan by next summer. More than likely all we get to see this year is a mid-range flagship like the 980 that they'll try to sell for $600.
So first 400 cards in the summer, still trailing behind Nvidia then. New Titan should be around March and 1080 in June.