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Deleted member 59090
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Looking at the price of their previous Crosshair board I would assume so, yeah.
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AMD Ryzen CPUs will launch by March 3
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Looking at the price of their previous Crosshair board I would assume so, yeah.
Papacheeks
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Damn
Hopefully Asrock Fatality for AM4 won't let me down.Looking for something around $149.
Hiro_Kunimi_80
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Dirk Benedict
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What a lovely motherboard. I'm about to upgrade from a ROG Asus Maximus Extreme IV, myself. This looks like a fine board, however, I am always on the hunt.
Irobot82
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According to Videocardz AMD is making their own OC utility. It seems like you can do per core OC too. It looks similiar to AMD's Wattman.
I wonder if putting a high OC on one or two cores could help them compete better against intel on games that don't use all the cores. Seems like a neat trick to try out.
I wonder if putting a high OC on one or two cores could help them compete better against intel on games that don't use all the cores. Seems like a neat trick to try out.
ethomaz
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Turbo already does that, no?
Lactose_Intolerant
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Wattman is a piece of shit but maybe it is better for their newer cards. On my 390 it is basically worthless. I don't even install it anymore when I do new driver installs.
Irobot82
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I think this is more like instead of going into your UEFI bios and set your OC you can set it on the fly like you can with graphics cards. It also seems like it's more granular. It sounds like you could take Core 0 and Core 1 and clock it up higher and leave the other clores at a lower clock or something like that maybe.
How did I not notice this? How far back does their CPU support go for it?
Intel offers the Extreme Tuning Utility which in effect should do the same things.
The individual mobo manufacturer utilities are usually crap.
ShadowKingpin
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Did anyone see this?:
potatohead
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RGB everywhere 🎆Did anyone see this?:
Machspeed007
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Any new AM4 board supporting Thunderbolt 3? Kind of want that. Sure there's tha add-in board option but I rather not fill an extension slot with that.
You need Intel if you want Thunderbolt.
That works without a Thunderbolt header? Good luck.
ASUS previously had an AM3+ motherboard which planned to include support for a Thunderbolt add-in card, but then Intel decided that it was better to use Thunderbolt as a way to lock in customers instead of opening it up.
They have a lot of frustrating restrictions on the spec, which is why external graphics card docks didn't exist prior to TB3, and why they are so expensive.
I believe that Intel plans on integrating the Thunderbolt controller into the CPU in future, eliminating external chips and any possibility of non-Intel devices supporting it.
There's a reason why Apple are really the only company with widespread Thunderbolt support, and the rest of the PC market has largely ignored it.
It's a shame because it provides some nice advantages over USB for certain applications, but Intel are really holding it back.
Machspeed007
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There's this extension card, don't know if you can actually buy it yet or it's just vaporware:
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboard-Accessory/ThunderboltEX-3/
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboard-Accessory/ThunderboltEX-3/
You can buy it, but it will only work with Intel boards since only they have the required hardware.
Check the specs page for a list of compatible boards.
Nostremitus
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I need these CPUs...
I plan on upgrading both my and my wife's PCs. I'm running on a 2500k and she has a frankenputer from leftover parts paired with an Athlon 850k I got for a good price...
If the prices are legit, these things should have a respectable price/perf advantage...
I don't see why they are rumored to be out in a few weeks an pricing hasn't been revealed.
I plan on upgrading both my and my wife's PCs. I'm running on a 2500k and she has a frankenputer from leftover parts paired with an Athlon 850k I got for a good price...
If the prices are legit, these things should have a respectable price/perf advantage...
I don't see why they are rumored to be out in a few weeks an pricing hasn't been revealed.
Analysis of the recent leaks from AdoredTV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPaxjsrWT_k
thelastword
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Nice analysis, if Ryzen really did not have turbo frequencies engaged, this means that Ryzen's single core performance is better than Skylake's.....
It's going to get interesting when the Ryzen CPU's are tested on X370 Motherboards with better memory et al.....The A320 MB they used is a low tier board and that was decked with some cheap low frequency memory too...
Ryzen is looking like the real deal folks....
TC McQueen
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Here's info from MSI's just finished stream about their Ryzen mobos. There was a lot of dodging questions due to NDA, plus the two hosts were obviously not native English speakers, so it was hard to follow at points:
-11 power phases on high end mobos, 7 on low ends
-One button stable OC on some models
-Comparable mobos to Intel ones, pretty much the same features
-Customizable RGB LEDs
-Tomahawk is good for budget builds, got a design award
-MSI provides some compatibility with XMP for RAM on all mobos
-mATX won't support multiple M.2 SSD's
-The one button OC thing has 8 settings, how far you can get depends on your CPU's binning
-XFR might be on B350 mobos, they can't answer the direct question
-Might support up to/over 3000 Mhz RAM
-No mITX mobos at launch, because AMD doesn't want it (I think)
-Might have dual LAN down the line
-No workstation specific mobos, X-Power models can do the job
-mITX has HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.whatever
-Their M.2 SSD shield supposedly work best with one-sided M.2 SSDs.
-There might be some mobos without RGB LEDs
-No native M.2 Raid 0 support (software only), one m.2 slot is linked to CPU and one is linked to PC-H (I think)
-MSI supports Windows 7 with extra RAM
-ATX/mATX don't have built in WiFi/Bluetooth, but support M.2 add-on cards
Also, supposed specs for one of Biostar's X370 boards
-11 power phases on high end mobos, 7 on low ends
-One button stable OC on some models
-Comparable mobos to Intel ones, pretty much the same features
-Customizable RGB LEDs
-Tomahawk is good for budget builds, got a design award
-MSI provides some compatibility with XMP for RAM on all mobos
-mATX won't support multiple M.2 SSD's
-The one button OC thing has 8 settings, how far you can get depends on your CPU's binning
-XFR might be on B350 mobos, they can't answer the direct question
-Might support up to/over 3000 Mhz RAM
-No mITX mobos at launch, because AMD doesn't want it (I think)
-Might have dual LAN down the line
-No workstation specific mobos, X-Power models can do the job
-mITX has HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.whatever
-Their M.2 SSD shield supposedly work best with one-sided M.2 SSDs.
-There might be some mobos without RGB LEDs
-No native M.2 Raid 0 support (software only), one m.2 slot is linked to CPU and one is linked to PC-H (I think)
-MSI supports Windows 7 with extra RAM
-ATX/mATX don't have built in WiFi/Bluetooth, but support M.2 add-on cards
Also, supposed specs for one of Biostar's X370 boards
I'm a long time intel and nvidia guy, but I've admired AMD's recent R&D. If these new CPUs and GPUs deliver as promised, I think AMD could take the crown from the upcoming 1080ti. As much as Nvidia Gefore Experience drives me crazy with their optimization suggestions (either way too aggressive or conservative in many cases) I LOVE having drivers available for games either the day they come out or a couple days early. This is something that drove me crazy with AMD last time I owned one of their GPUs. If they can get the software side up to par with their latest hardware developments it's a whole new ballgame.
dgrdsv
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Ah yes those famous CPU drivers!..
That said, it would be nice if AMD did fix the driver bottlenecks in their GPU drivers :lol
Unknown Soldier
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If AMD had the personnel to do this, don't you think they would have done it by now after all these years?
RandomExpletive
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No ITX at launch? Booooo, I want my quad-core steaming box now!
Or should I go with hexa-core...
Or should I go with hexa-core...
Unknown Soldier
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For a streaming box? Put a dual-core i3 in it and a GTX 1050 and let the GPU handle the transcoding lol, you don't want something that consumes 200W on 24/7 when you could have something that only consumes 35W
RandomExpletive
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Oh I guess that shoulda been more specific, this would be a new build to replace my 2500k and get myself down to ITX form factor. I'd like to be able to game and stream, which I can't do very well with my 2500k.
dgrdsv
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First CPU-Z screenshot of Ryzen CPU leaked
Ryzen 5 1600X:
6800K@4GHz:
Hype rising.
This is a bit offtopic here and can derail the thread -) but from what is happening for the last couple of years it's pretty clear that they don't intend to - their way of "fixing" this is to promote the usage of DX12 and VK APIs where the actual fixing is down to developers.
Ryzen 5 1600X:
6800K@4GHz:
Hype rising.
This is a bit offtopic here and can derail the thread -) but from what is happening for the last couple of years it's pretty clear that they don't intend to - their way of "fixing" this is to promote the usage of DX12 and VK APIs where the actual fixing is down to developers.
My next CPU right there
LelouchZero
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Wow this is really impressive if true! I know it's just one benchmark but it looks like their SMT is bit more efficient than Broadwell-E's SMT seeing as it's around 8% faster in the "CPU Multi Thread" results.
The single-thread results are also very interesting, as the 4GHz i7 6800K is around 2% faster while supposedly clocked 11% higher than the Ryzen CPU.
Lagspike_exe
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First CPU-Z screenshot of Ryzen CPU leaked
Ryzen 5 1600X:
6800K@4GHz:
Hype rising.
This is a bit offtopic here and can derail the thread -) but from what is happening for the last couple of years it's pretty clear that they don't intend to - their way of "fixing" this is to promote the usage of DX12 and VK APIs where the actual fixing is down to developers.
Godly value. R5 1600X is what, half the price, and the motherboards with OC will also be much cheaper than Intel's X99 ripoff.
dgrdsv
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Yeah, seems a little too good even.
Here's my 6850K@stock (granted I have FB2K playing in the background but that shouldn't affect the result much):
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Deleted member 59090
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Let's just say it's time to move on from Phenom 965
lordfuzzybutt
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i7-6700 for reference.
ShadowKingpin
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So is my penis from all of these benchmarks.
Jokes aside, this is fucking incredible news.
Insane Metal
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DAAAAAAAAAMN
Let's just say it's time to move on from Phenom 965
Hi five Phenom buddy!
I think mine is nearing the end of it's watch.
Intel's Turbo mode already dynamically clocks individual cores, depending on how many threads are being processed. Single core turbo speeds are higher than dual. Dual core turbo speeds are higher than quad. etc.
Yeah, Intel has their own OC utility.
People overclocking manually, for practical use, basically never disable cores anymore, for overclocks. If anything, they will disable iGPU, turbo, power saving features, and even hyperthreading, to keep all cores active and clocked as high as possible. Before they would resort to disabling cores.
DouglasteR
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Very nice AMD !
Hoping for the BEST !
Hoping for the BEST !
opticalmace
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Very nice AMD !
Hoping for the BEST !
Who's the guy in the gif? I keep seeing him around and he looks familiar. The line in his hair makes me think of Geordi from Star Trek TNG lol.