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[Drakhoran]

For the same reason, I struggle to see the case where a user can make an argument for an A320/A300 board when all Ryzens are unlocked. They would have to be *very* budget-constrained and certain they will never want to have the flexibility of overclocking at some point down the line.

Which is presumably where there are currently no A320/A300 boards available. They are presumably intended for the Ryzen 3 processors due later this year.

 

[MRORANGE]

Got 4 questions if anyone can kindly answer them.

1. I'm assuming it's better value to get the 1700 due to power consumption and people who happy with a 4.0Ghz OC only? looking at these stats it should be feasible?

2. Will future ITX mobo's be suitable for the 7 series for OC? I am most likely going to use air coolers if I get this

3. Does Ryzen act a as APU and be able to combine it's grpahical horsepower with the GPU? Last time I checked it was only ebenficial for low-mid range systems by AMD.

4. This CPU as far as I can tell will shine in 8 core tasks but gets beaten by intel on programs that uses 4 cores, how much would this impact me if I wanted to use it for gaming at 4K? (not looking above 60FPS). Purpose for 8 cores is for 4K editing and Illustrator/ CAD rendering.

 

[Paragon]

Got 4 questions if anyone can kindly answer them.
1. I'm assuming it's better value to get the 1700 due to power consumption and people who happy with a 4.0Ghz OC only? looking at these stats it should be feasible?

The 1700X/1800X should be better binned so that they should run at the same clockspeeds at a lower power consumption.
The 1700's lower power consumption comes from it having lower clockspeeds. (stock)
There have also been reports that the memory controller on many 1700s does not seem to be as robust as the 1700X/1800X and may not be as good at handling faster memory speeds.

Temperature comparisons are skewed because the X CPUs have up to a 20C temperature offset for some reason.
My 1700X at 3.9GHz reports "73C" running Intel Burn Test (maximum heat/stress) which would be about equal to the 1700 results you've quoted, when you factor in the offset. (53C)

2. Will future ITX mobo's be suitable for the 7 series for OC? I am most likely going to use air coolers if I get this

The motherboard size shouldn't affect this.
Trying to use an air cooler on an 8-core CPU in a cramped mITX build might cause you to run into thermal throttling though - but it can be done. A lot of that depends on the case/cooler.
Linus Tech Tips put a 145W Xeon into one of the smallest PC cases there are, and used an air cooler for it.

3. Does Ryzen act a as APU and be able to combine it's grpahical horsepower with the GPU? Last time I checked it was only ebenficial for low-mid range systems by AMD.

The current Ryzen processors are only CPUs, not APUs. They don't have an integrated GPU.
Basically, AMD put another 4 CPU cores in place of an iGPU.
More than half the chip in Intel's quad-core CPUs is the iGPU now.

4. This CPU as far as I can tell will shine in 8 core tasks but gets beaten by intel on programs that uses 4 cores, how much would this impact me if I wanted to use it for gaming at 4K? (not looking above 60FPS). Purpose for 8 cores is for 4K editing and Illustrator/ CAD rendering.

Resolution in games is 99% determined by your GPU. The CPU affects minimum framerates more than anything else.
So you need a really fast CPU if you want to keep minimum framerates above 120 FPS, less-fast for 60 FPS, and even less for 30 FPS - which is why console games are mostly 30.
Since higher resolutions are going to run at lower framerates anyway due to the GPU, the CPU matters a lot less for 4K60 than if you were trying to run a game at 1080p240.
It's not a bad CPU for gaming by any means, just not necessarily the best across all games - though it can often be second or third on the list.
Its performance in many non-gaming applications can make up for that though, depending on your requirements. It can be twice as fast as a 7700K in some applications.
And even where it's not the best, it's still been a significant upgrade from my i5-2500K in all cases.

Check that the programs you want to run can actually use 8 cores though.
Nearly all of Adobe's programs other than Premiere will not benefit from more than 4. The same could be true of CAD programs.
A lot of these programs would probably benefit greatly if they were well multithreaded, but the codebase is so old that it would be a massive undertaking.

• SOLIDWORKS 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance
• Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance
• Adobe Lightroom CC 2015.8 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance
• Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I'm not sure why anyone would want to go with a budget board for a i7. If you want to go with an enthusiast CPU then you also need a enthusiast mainboard and ram setup.

I can see someone going for a regular i7 7700 and using a H270 chipset to save around $100

However, you're right it makes no sense to go for a K model CPU and only pair it with a vanilla 270.

 

[MRORANGE]

The 1700X/1800X should be better binned so that they should run at the same clockspeeds at a lower power consumption.
The 1700's lower power consumption comes from it having lower clockspeeds. (stock)
There have also been reports that the memory controller on many 1700s does not seem to be as robust as the 1700X/1800X and may not be as good at handling faster memory speeds.

Temperature comparisons are skewed because the X CPUs have up to a 20C temperature offset for some reason.
My 1700X at 3.9GHz reports "73C" running Intel Burn Test (maximum heat/stress) which would be about equal to the 1700 results you've quoted, when you factor in the offset. (53C)

The motherboard size shouldn't affect this.
Trying to use an air cooler on an 8-core CPU in a cramped mITX build might cause you to run into thermal throttling though - but it can be done. A lot of that depends on the case/cooler.
Linus Tech Tips put a 145W Xeon into one of the smallest PC cases there are, and used an air cooler for it.

The current Ryzen processors are only CPUs, not APUs. They don't have an integrated GPU.
Basically, AMD put another 4 CPU cores in place of an iGPU.
More than half the chip in Intel's quad-core CPUs is the iGPU now.

Resolution in games is 99% determined by your GPU. The CPU affects minimum framerates more than anything else.
So you need a really fast CPU if you want to keep minimum framerates above 120 FPS, less-fast for 60 FPS, and even less for 30 FPS - which is why console games are mostly 30.
Since higher resolutions are going to run at lower framerates anyway due to the GPU, the CPU matters a lot less for 4K60 than if you were trying to run a game at 1080p240.
It's not a bad CPU for gaming by any means, just not necessarily the best across all games - though it can often be second or third on the list.
Its performance in many non-gaming applications can make up for that though, depending on your requirements. It can be twice as fast as a 7700K in some applications.
And even where it's not the best, it's still been a significant upgrade from my i5-2500K in all cases.

Check that the programs you want to run can actually use 8 cores though.
Nearly all of Adobe's programs other than Premiere will not benefit from more than 4. The same could be true of CAD programs.
A lot of these programs would probably benefit greatly if they were well multithreaded, but the codebase is so old that it would be a massive undertaking.

• SOLIDWORKS 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance
• Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance
• Adobe Lightroom CC 2015.8 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance
• Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance

Thanks! great response, will look into those readings for Adobe software.

I'm still on a q6600 so I've been wanting to update for a while but waiting for something that was would be good in the long run.

 

[Rushersauce]

The 1700X/1800X should be better binned so that they should run at the same clockspeeds at a lower power consumption.
The 1700's lower power consumption comes from it having lower clockspeeds. (stock)
There have also been reports that the memory controller on many 1700s does not seem to be as robust as the 1700X/1800X and may not be as good at handling faster memory speeds.

Temperature comparisons are skewed because the X CPUs have up to a 20C temperature offset for some reason.
My 1700X at 3.9GHz reports "73C" running Intel Burn Test (maximum heat/stress) which would be about equal to the 1700 results you've quoted, when you factor in the offset. (53C)

The motherboard size shouldn't affect this.
Trying to use an air cooler on an 8-core CPU in a cramped mITX build might cause you to run into thermal throttling though - but it can be done. A lot of that depends on the case/cooler.
Linus Tech Tips put a 145W Xeon into one of the smallest PC cases there are, and used an air cooler for it.

The current Ryzen processors are only CPUs, not APUs. They don't have an integrated GPU.
Basically, AMD put another 4 CPU cores in place of an iGPU.
More than half the chip in Intel's quad-core CPUs is the iGPU now.

Resolution in games is 99% determined by your GPU. The CPU affects minimum framerates more than anything else.
So you need a really fast CPU if you want to keep minimum framerates above 120 FPS, less-fast for 60 FPS, and even less for 30 FPS - which is why console games are mostly 30.
Since higher resolutions are going to run at lower framerates anyway due to the GPU, the CPU matters a lot less for 4K60 than if you were trying to run a game at 1080p240.
It's not a bad CPU for gaming by any means, just not necessarily the best across all games - though it can often be second or third on the list.
Its performance in many non-gaming applications can make up for that though, depending on your requirements. It can be twice as fast as a 7700K in some applications.
And even where it's not the best, it's still been a significant upgrade from my i5-2500K in all cases.

Check that the programs you want to run can actually use 8 cores though.
Nearly all of Adobe's programs other than Premiere will not benefit from more than 4. The same could be true of CAD programs.
A lot of these programs would probably benefit greatly if they were well multithreaded, but the codebase is so old that it would be a massive undertaking.

• SOLIDWORKS 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance
• Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance
• Adobe Lightroom CC 2015.8 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance
• Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017 AMD Ryzen 7 1700X & 1800X Performance

This is a great post.

 

[·feist·]

Ryzen 7 Hackintosh.

Tech Guy [YouTube] —— In Photoshop: 8-Core MacPro vs AMD Ryzen 1700 PC

정곰스튜디오 [YouTube] —— 라이젠실험실 3회 바이오스 오버클럭 국민오버 3.8Ghz Ryzen vs Mac Pro 다시올립니다.

HotHardware —— AMD Ryzen Powered $1500 System Smokes $5500 Mac Pro In Photoshop Benchmark


Tech Guy [YouTube] —— In Premiere Pro: 8-Core MacPro vs AMD Ryzen 1700 PC



Another user went further (beyond MacPro vs Ryzen on Windows performance comparisons), creating the basis of a possible 8C/16T DIY MacPro using a Ryzen 7 1700, Asus Prime B350 M-A, 8GB Corsair 2400 and Radeon HD 7950 GPU.

"Kernel and boot [by] Bronya"


http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/322433-ryzen/#entry2397155
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/to...12x-sierra-kernel-researchdevelopment-thread/
https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/63xw8c/mavericks_working_on_ryzen/
https://np.reddit.com/r/hackintosh_ja/comments/63zsvq/ryzenでmavericksを動かしたらものすごく速かったらしい_rhackintosh/

Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— Ryzen 1700 OS X 10.9.5 // VM win 7 32 bit 8T

Gils Applemania [YouTube] —— AMD Ryzen OS X 10.10.5





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4.2GHz Ryzen 5 1500X (4.3GHz "close" to stable)
Compared against stock + OC 4C/8T Devil's Canyon, Sky Lake, Kaby Lake, Sandy Bridge and several other AMD/Intel CPUs.

*Note, benchmarks only include Nvidia GPU (GTX 1080)


Legit Reviews —— AMD Ryzen 5 1500X Overclocked Benchmark Results At 4.2GHz

We were able to push the limits of our AMD Ryzen 5 1500X processor and was able to increase the all-core clock speed from 3.6GHz all the way up to 4.2GHz! To do this we needed to increase the CPU voltage up to 1.425 on the AMD X370 motherboard that we were using for testing, but our CPU temperatures barely broke the 70C mark since we were using the Corsair Hydro Series H110i Extreme Performance liquid CPU Cooler ($124.00). We were able to get 4GHz stable on all cores with no voltage increase, so overclocking this processor should be easily done.

AMD Ryzen 5 1500X at 4.3GHz

It should be noted that you might be able to get 4.3GHz stable on the Ryzen 5 1500X as it felt like we were so close to getting it stable! We ended up settling for 4.2GHz as it was rock solid and wouldn't crash on any of the benchmarks we run in out test suite.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

If you don't go the SLI route and don't plan on overclocking, you can get a mobo that's in line (or cheaper) with AM4 prices.

Yes, the cpu is more expensive, but it's also significantly more powerful than an 1600 (and you get a more mature platform that has less issues).

It really depends on the budget and needs.

Singnificantly is a bit of an overstatement. Better? Yes.

Night and day better? Im not so sure.

The 1600X is really the perfect CPU in terms of balance/money/cores and speed.

 

[shandy706]

I can see someone going for a regular i7 7700 and using a H270 chipset to save around $100

However, you're right it makes no sense to go for a K model CPU and only pair it with a vanilla 270.

This is what I did. i7 7700 - $219 and ASRock H270 ITX - $85.

I was going to do an AMD build to support their work, but I couldn't pass up the above deal.

 

[·feist·]

[YouTube] Cryorig AM4 bracket for AMD Ryzen

 

[TC McQueen]

[YouTube] Cryorig AM4 bracket for AMD Ryzen

Somebody with a YouTube account ask him when he got his, because nobody on the AMD sub-Reddit (including me) has gotten anything from Cryorig regarding these brackets shipping out.

 

[metareferential]

Singnificantly is a bit of an overstatement. Better? Yes.

Night and day better? Im not so sure.

The 1600X is really the perfect CPU in terms of balance/money/cores and speed.

It really is, I'm not debating that.

There are cases though, where its value isn't that big, when you consider prices elsewhere in the world, which is what makes my posts seem exaggerated here xD

Sadly in Europe a 1600x is only slightly cheaper than a 7700k (meaning you don't have that sweet 100 $ difference).

As a mid-to-high-range cpu though it's great, especially so if you want to do other things outside of gaming.

I might even build two rigs just to have one xD

 

[Datschge]

Sadly in Europe a 1600x is only slightly cheaper than a 7700k (meaning you don't have that sweet 100 $ difference).

Checking prices here in Germany the difference is currently about 75€ which is close to $80 or more than 1/5th of the 7700K's price here. I'd call that pretty significant.

 

[Mr Swine]

Checking prices here in Germany the difference is currently about 75€ which is close to $80 or more than 1/5th of the 7700K's price here. I'd call that pretty significant.

It's 900 sek (100 dollars) difference between the 1600x and the 7700k here in Sweden.

Myself I don't know which to buy, either the 1600x or the 1700x

 

[metareferential]

Checking prices here in Germany the difference is currently about 75€ which is close to $80 or more than 1/5th of the 7700K's price here. I'd call that pretty significant.

It's 900 sek (100 dollars) difference between the 1600x and the 7700k here in Sweden.

Myself I don't know which to buy, either the 1600x or the 1700x

You can find one for 250 euros in Italy...so prices are normalizing...tempting.

Strangely enough, in Switzerland it's still a bit expensive compared to the 7700k (or even a 7700). We'll see. In the meantime, I'll stop rambling about prices xD

 

[Marmelade]

Checking prices here in Germany the difference is currently about 75€ which is close to $80 or more than 1/5th of the 7700K's price here. I'd call that pretty significant.

Here in France you can get a 1600X for 255€ while the 7700k is 360€ (amazon.fr for both)
The R5 are great deals

 

[Seronei]

Amazon.fr is so much cheaper than anything else I've seen in Europe, only place that I've found where the prices between i5 and ryzen 5s are the same as in the US. 255€ for the 1600x and 235€ for the 1600. I don't understand how their 1600x is the same price as the 1600 on amazon.de even though it's the "same" company.

 

[·feist·]

As previously mentioned, I expect Mini-ITX boards will begin showing up around Computex 2017 time frame. Some will merely be displayed publicly, while others should be close to retail availability.

Still waiting on whether a "Crosshair Impact"/"Crossblade Impact" ever materializes from Asus, but for now we can add ASRock to the list:


"ASRock X370 Mini-ITX AM4"
http://akiba-pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/news/1055202.html

Google Translate:

Product points and others are explained by Mr. Chris Lee of the company. Among them, the mini-ITX motherboard equipped with the X370 chipset, although only silhouette was released, product specs etc. were introduced.

In addition, it is said that the release time is scheduled for June to the end of June, and that the upper CPU such as Ryzen 7 1800 X can be installed.

Finally a Mini-ITX motherboard for Ryzen at ASRock?
https://www.cowcotland.com/news/57445/carte-mini-itx-ryzen-asrock.html

Google Translate:

For now, the Mini-ITX offer in Ryzen is very small, and things should not change for a while.
Because if ASRock did a little teaser at an event in Japan, nothing is really expected before this summer.

The motherboard in question remains close to the larger models of the brand and thus moves away from what Biostar does on its two Mini-ITX boards. The network part is in fact entrusted to an Intel chip, while the sound benefits from the Creative Sound Blaster Cinema 3 technology.

For the rest, we will wait to see real photos in order to understand the why of the two HDMI outputs and the exact position of M.2.

Biostar X370-GTN Mini-ITX
Gigabyte AB350N-Gaming WiFi Mini-ITX

Im waiting for this so next month I can do a ITX build.

Is that the only ITX board that's been announced?

The Gigabyte AB350N-Gaming WiFi Mini-ITX was announced, but has not yet been shown:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232090121&postcount=1815

 

[Degenerate]

Looking into building a rig, trying to keep costs as low as possible, between $6-700USD. Is the 1500x more then adequate or should is the 1600x the way to go?

 

[DonMigs85]

Looking into building a rig, trying to keep costs as low as possible, between $6-700USD. Is the 1500x more then adequate or should is the 1600x the way to go?

The regular 1600 seems OK and comes with the nice stock cooler

 

[Vash63]

I hope they get this memory compatibility thing figured out sooner than later. I almost picked up a 1700(X?) last week at Fry's but they didn't carry a single set of 3200MHz+ memory that was on Asus' QVL at that speed.

 

[Steel]

Looking into building a rig, trying to keep costs as low as possible, between $6-700USD. Is the 1500x more then adequate or should is the 1600x the way to go?

The 1600 comes with a cooler, unlike the other two, and should overclock quite well, so that'd probably be the best bang for your buck. The 1500x is alright too, though.

 

[CarbonFire]

Looking into building a rig, trying to keep costs as low as possible, between $6-700USD. Is the 1500x more then adequate or should is the 1600x the way to go?

1600 non-X, quality yet affordable B350 board, and the best 16GB of RAM you can fit into your budget. Jet.com has the 1600 on sale with 10% off right now, puts it at around $200 (or $189 if you waive free returns, same price as the 1500x retail). Add about $120-140 for good RAM, $80 for a quality B350 Mobo, $200-250 for an RX480/580.

That puts you at around $600-650 for the core components. If you can find some better deals for certain items you might be able to get it down a little further. From there it will depend on if you have any other components, or are starting from absolute zero (Hard drive/SSD, case, monitor, power supply, keyboard, mouse). If you have no computer parts at all, you're looking at closer to $900-$1,000. If you have an older computer and you're upgrading, $600-700 is potentially doable.

 

[Mr Swine]

I hope they get this memory compatibility thing figured out sooner than later. I almost picked up a 1700(X?) last week at Fry's but they didn't carry a single set of 3200MHz+ memory that was on Asus' QVL at that speed.

Isn't the May update going to solve most of the 3200Mhz+ memory being compatible with Ryzen motherboards?

 

[Khaz]

What's the point of having the X370 on a mini ITX motherboard?

 

[JohnnyFootball]

What's the point of having the X370 on a mini ITX motherboard?

More USB drives!

Other than that, good question. SLI/Crossfire seems to be the major difference between than a B350

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Okay, its only a matter of time before I get a 1600X B350 combo.

My question is what kind of DDR4 memory do I want to get?

 

[Papacheeks]

Okay, its only a matter of time before I get a 1600X B350 combo.

My question is what kind of DDR4 memory do I want to get?

DDR4 3200 is what you want to get a little performance bump in ryzen. Most B350 boards right now Bios wise support 3200mhz memory. SAMSUNG chips seems to have the better compatibility.

 

[Datschge]

3200MHz is the current limit (higher will be downgraded to that depending on board compatibility).

I expect all RAM questions becoming easier to answer once the May microcode update is finally there.

 

[pooptest]

3200MHz is the current limit (higher will be downgraded to that depending on board compatibility).

I expect all RAM questions becoming easier to answer once the May microcode update is finally there.

Not that you have a crystal ball, but do you think the May update will expand on the XMP compatibility, too?

I have this RAM: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231914 and can only get 2667 out of it, @ 16-16-16-36-1T.

 

[Datschge]

Not that you have a crystal ball, but do you think the May update will expand on the XMP compatibility, too?

I have this RAM: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231914 and can only get 2667 out of it, @ 16-16-16-36-1T.

Anything above 2667MHz is XMP. My understanding is that boards supporting up to 3200MHz already do this by circumventing current limitations, the update may open up support for even faster memory in the CPUs without needing hacks anymore. AMD has been pretty wishy washy about the exact details likely to not step into the overpromise underdeliver pitfall, especially as such improvements depend on board manufactures releasing respective BIOS updates.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Right now, the 1600X and B350 are my choice upgrades. I am starting to lean more to the possibility that it may be in my best interest to wait until the first refresh/rebadge of the Zen architecture happens. I figure that will allow for further optimizations/maturity of the drivers/BIOS updates etc.

But damn I am ready to bite the freakin bullet!

 

[Papacheeks]

Right now, the 1600X and B350 are my choice upgrades. I am starting to lean more to the possibility that it may be in my best interest to wait until the first refresh/rebadge of the Zen architecture happens. I figure that will allow for further optimizations/maturity of the drivers/BIOS updates etc.

But damn I am ready to bite the freakin bullet!

I already did , awaiting my asrock fatality B350 gaming G4 board, and my case that Newegg fucked up on shipping me the wrong one.

I probably wont be building this till end of next week. But looks like by early may the microcode update for Ryzen get's another upgrade more than likely supports up to 3200-3600 in XMP for most board partners.

 

[pooptest]

Anything above 2667MHz is XMP. My understanding is that boards supporting up to 3200MHz already do this by circumventing current limitations, the update may open up support for even faster memory in the CPUs without needing hacks anymore. AMD has been pretty wishy washy about the exact details likely to not step into the overpromise underdeliver pitfall, especially as such improvements depend on board manufactures releasing respective BIOS updates.

Gotcha. Yeah, I have the Taichi and it supports 3200, but I guess I gotta wait for more BIOS updates.

Thanks~

 

[SURGEdude]

Is there a consensus at the moment on if it's worth waiting for the first refresh for someone who can afford to wait it out and is looking at the 1600 line and new GPU as a replacement for an FX-9590 +R 290 combo system?

I don't want to get bit as an early adopter especially since I don't need to upgrade, but I also don't want to wait for a better deal and just end up getting old hardware at a slight discount.

 

[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

I posted this in the pc building thread, but are there any good m-atx mobo for ryzen? Most of the mobos I've searched are either not great or overpriced.

 

[shark sandwich]

I posted this in the pc building thread, but are there any good m-atx mobo for ryzen? Most of the mobos I've searched are either not great or overpriced.

I had the Asus Prime and returned it for a MSI B350 Mortar. I am happy with it so far. It shows an accurate CPU temp and voltage reading, and runs my memory at its XMP settings when "A-XMP" setting is enabled. (All issues I had with the Prime).

Also has 2 chassis fan headers vs 1 on the Prime.

 

[Renekton]

Is there a consensus at the moment on if it's worth waiting for the first refresh for someone who can afford to wait it out and is looking at the 1600 line and new GPU as a replacement for an FX-9590 +R 290 combo system?

I don't want to get bit as an early adopter especially since I don't need to upgrade, but I also don't want to wait for a better deal and just end up getting old hardware at a slight discount.

I'd say give it another 2 months for the memory fog to clear up.

 

[Marmelade]

EU GAF:
Ryzen 5 1600 @209.99€ on amazon.fr
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B06XNRQHG4/

 

[CarbonFire]

I'd say give it another 2 months for the memory fog to clear up.

Yeah, that's pretty sound advice for people who aren't desperate to upgrade right now. Plus by June we should know about how Vega stacks up compared to Nvidia's best, so that should provide a clearer picture for people looking to do full builds or upgrades.

Personally I probably would have waited a few more months, but I snagged one of those insane Microcenter deals for a 1700X and X370 Taichi and couldn't pass it up. Feels good to be throwing my business AMD's way again, after so many years of being stuck with Intel being the only viable game in town.

 

[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

I had the Asus Prime and returned it for a MSI B350 Mortar. I am happy with it so far. It shows an accurate CPU temp and voltage reading, and runs my memory at its XMP settings when "A-XMP" setting is enabled. (All issues I had with the Prime).

Also has 2 chassis fan headers vs 1 on the Prime.

I was thinking about getting Asrock AB350M Pro4 mobo. I was planning to going for white/black aesthetic look for my upcoming computer build. I haven't looked at the MSI B350 Mortal, but I'll look it up.

Anyway, what is the general consensus for Ryzen builds out there? Is it worth the hassle searching for the mob that supports this processor or should I just go with Intel like most of others out there.

Finding a suitable m-atx mobo for this processor is a bigger hassle than I've ever imagined.

 

[Deleted member 59090]

EU GAF:
Ryzen 5 1600 @209.99€ on amazon.fr
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B06XNRQHG4/

Aaaand bought. Thanks for the tip.

 

[masterkajo]

EU GAF:
Ryzen 5 1600 @209.99€ on amazon.fr
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B06XNRQHG4/

Oh man that is 40€ cheaper than Amazon.de but I have to pay for shipping and it is a hassle to return if it comes to it.

EDIT: and bought. Thanks.

 

[·feist·]

ComputerBase —— AMD Ryzen: Dual-Rank Memory is the best choice

ComputerBase —— Benchmarks: AMD Ryzen 7 & 5, FX, Phenom II and APUs in comparison



ComputerBase —— Processor ranking: CPU comparison with AMD Ryzen 7 & 5 for April 2017

Google Translate:

AMD Ryzen 7 presses Intel Core i7

The two fastest CPUs in the benchmarks come from Intel, belong to the Core i7 family and have eight or even ten cores based on Broadwell-E. The prices are 1,100 and 1,800 euros respectively. This makes it all the more astonishing to see which CPUs are in second and third place: Ryzen 7 ensures movement in the market and is at the top with the models 1800X, 1700X and 1700 - the prices are 330 to 510 euros. Intel's four-core models with high clock frequencies can only keep the Core i7-7700K up with Hyper-Threading - but it costs roughly as much as the Ryzen 7 1700 with eight cores. About 340 euros. However, it is important to note that Ryzen 7 shows a very high performance in applications, but only an acceptable performance in games.


AMD Ryzen 5 is the new head of the middle class

The Core i5 marks the mainstream division in a large CPU comparison with various models and has since the beginning of April now also competition by Ryzen 5 get. These offer up to six cores and twelve threads at similar prices, where Intel has only four cores / threads. In applications the Core i5 has no chance against Ryzen 5 and also in games can convince AMDs architecture in this price segment. Overall, Ryzen 5 is therefore preferable to the Core i5.

 

[AmyS]

I didn't know there was a 16-core / 32 thread version of RyZen for consumer desktops in the pipeline for later this year on the X399 chipset.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp...s_leaked_about_amd_s_x399_16-core_ryzen_cpu/1

Probably old news to you guys but I haven't been following RyZen all that closely.

Also, Joe Macri on the Disruptive Nature of AMD Ryzen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKqn_E3xai4

 

[Nostremitus]

I didn't know there was a 16-core / 32 thread version of RyZen for consumer desktops in the pipeline for later this year on the X399 chipset.

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp...s_leaked_about_amd_s_x399_16-core_ryzen_cpu/1

Probably old news to you guys but I haven't been following RyZen all that closely.

Also, Joe Macri on the Disruptive Nature of AMD Ryzen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKqn_E3xai4

Their biggest in the pipeline would be the 32core 64threaded Naples chip.

 

[AmyS]

Their biggest in the pipeline would be the 32core 64threaded Naples chip.

I know, but that's not for PC desktops.

 

[Spooky Scary Skeleton]

Looks like I'm gonna opt out for the Intel cpu instead of Ryzen because of how terrible AMD is when it comes to emulating.

 

[Nostremitus]

I know, but that's not for PC desktops.

Ah, missed that distinction.

 

[·feist·]

TechSpot —— The Best CPUs: This is what you should get

Almost 18 months have passed since we last updated our ‘Best CPUs’ feature and that’s mostly because since making our picks back in late 2015 very little had changed. Well, that is until very recently.

After all the extensive testing you are familiar with, we've come up with this quick guide to bring you the best CPU choices available right now. We'll also digress on which is the best overall platform to invest in right now.

• Best Enthusiast/Value Gaming CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600
  
  
  
• Best Budget CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5 GHz Socket 1151
  
  
  
• Best Performance Desktop CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3.0 GHz Socket AM4
  
  Also Our Pick for Best High-end CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3.0 GHz Socket AM4​
  
  
  
• Best PC Platform: AMD B350 (or AMD X370)