American Censorship Day (Internet Censorship)

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Please this issue will have a completely negligible effect on voter turn out one way or the other in all demographics. Very few people would list the open nature of the internet as their voting priority. The politicians can safely take the money on this issue with little fear of any negative repercussions.
 
So this will outlaw a vast majority of the most visited online websites and make felons out of almost every young internet user in America? I'd like to see them try.
 
This benefits no one but the government, but is coming sooner or later. These 'golden years' of the Internet are getting dimmer and dimmer.
 
it's pretty ridiculous and I'll have myself a hearty laugh when it passes like a bitch.

microsoft supports it, by the way. well, kind of. nintendo, too.
 
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the worst this could bring?

There's too much stuff on the internet that needs to go away. I love the internet as much as the next person. However, it has changed our way of life forever, not always for the better.
 
Already emailed my congressman. It brings me great shame to say that I wouldn't have even heard of this had it not been for 4chan...
 
Captain Sparrow said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the worst this could bring?

There's too much stuff on the internet that needs to go away. I love the internet as much as the next person. However, it has changed our way of life forever, not always for the better.
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........ serious?
 
Slayer-33 said:
Wtf is happening to our USA?

WTF MAN.

Where are they getting these "ideas" from? What the fuck.
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The US government is no longer controlled by the citizens of this country, its controlled by the corporations of this country (and that's why the US will fail).
 
G-Fex said:
If this passes it kills youtube, Justin.tv/USTREAM, Thatguywiththeglasses, angry video game nerd and all the people from TGWTG like Spoony and Brad
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Not Brad i like him :( (and the other TGWTG people) and if this gets passed im moving back to Canada probably Vancouver, but chances are it will be Toronto where i was born)
 
Rapstah said:
If a site is hosted in say China, how would the censorship be enforced if the site's owner didn't agree to remove the content in question? By just blocking it for all US users? It's obviously impossible for all website owners outside of the US to make a censored version of their webpage for US readers only.
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It would be enforced at the DNS level. ISPs themselves would have a huge blacklist of sites they're supposed to block at a judge's whim.

So, if a judge decided NeoGAF was "infringing", all compliant ISPs in the US would have to block it. NeoGAF would have no say in the matter.
 
In the event this does pass, you still have options. There are out-of-country proxies, alternate / open DNS systems, and as a last resort, Tor. Technology cannot and will not be defeated by any government.
 
I'm not usually one for these overzealous self-righteous Internet calls to arms that come up every couple of months, but I wholly support fighting this 110 percent. The slippery slope argument makes me laugh on Gaming side, but it's very frightening here. Just the government having the power to take sites offline whenever it feels there is a copyright infringement is not something I want to experience. We should be better than this. I'm disgusted that this bill has made it as far as it has.
 
JdFoX187 said:
I'm not usually one for these overzealous self-righteous Internet calls to arms that come up every couple of months, but I wholly support fighting this 110 percent. The slippery slope argument makes me laugh on Gaming side, but it's very frightening here. Just the government having the power to take sites offline whenever it feels there is a copyright infringement is not something I want to experience. We should be better than this. I'm disgusted that this bill has made it as far as it has.
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Yeah, I am honestly pretty scared of this bill. It would cripple the internet significantly. It's just so totalitarian.
 
Stumpokapow said:
In the event this does pass, you still have options. There are out-of-country proxies, alternate / open DNS systems, and as a last resort, Tor. Technology cannot and will not be defeated by any government.
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Hypothetically speaking, if this does pass, how would that affect Neogaf as a whole? If something similiar to Mass Effect 3 spoilers incident happened, would that be sufficient to close down the site?
 
So assuming this passes, which I'm afraid it will, how long do you think it'll take the government to start laying the hammer down on people and websites? Do you think it'll be a gradual process where the law is enforced more strictly as time passes or will Big Brother go nuts immediately?
 
I dunno...say this passes, and somehow some big website like facebook or youtube is shutdown...wouldn't there be a massive backlash? Millions and millions of people follow certain websites religiously, and if shit started getting shutdown by the government I just feel like there would be hell to pay. Maybe I'm crazy.
 
Agentnibs said:
If something like this passes Obama will veto it, no doubt in my mind!
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Then you haven't been following Obama these last few years. He is in the pockets of the film and recording industry. He supports this legislation. Its a forgone conclusion.
 
Credo said:
So assuming this passes, which I'm afraid it will, how long do you think it'll take the government to start laying the hammer down on people and websites? Do you think it'll be a gradual process where the law is enforced more strictly as time passes or will Big Brother go nuts immediately?
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The ones that would abuse this law would be the corporations, not the government. They are the ones taking down, muting videos, and banning users in Youtube. If you watched the Vimeo video, it explains this.

Other countries would start making their own laws as well.

Major internet companies' open letter, in case you haven't read it.
 
Sgt.Pepper said:
Hypothetically speaking, if this does pass, how would that affect Neogaf as a whole? If something similiar to Mass Effect 3 spoilers incident happened, would that be sufficient to close down the site?
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It would depend entirely on how a court chooses to interpret the statute, which I haven't and don't intend to read. As best as I understand from the summaries, the law would allow authorities to take all appropriate measures, which would basically mean that if you were in the US, they'd work on getting your host to disconnect you, and if you were outside the US, they'd work on making sure that your domain name doesn't resolve to your server (If, say, Kotaku was subject to the list, kotaku.com would fail to go to any website, but the server running Kotaku would still exist and be up. Non-Americans would still see the site, Americans wouldn't.)

The only solution would be to, in some way, opt out of your ISP's DNS--either by using a proxy that is not blacklisted, by using an Open DNS service that is not blacklisted, or by running Tor AND hope that the site in question is hosted in a foreign country.
 
Sad state of affairs that insanity like this is even up with a CHANCE to get passed. I could easily see this getting a slide in via some sick "woops, just in time for the holidays, gotta go people" as it winds down.
 
I don't speak legalese but here's what I understood about this bill. Basically, all ad providers and content hosts need to have an easily-contactable copyright representative that will handle take-down requests. Once evidence (a court-order?) is presented, the site/ad provider HAS to take download the content, immediately and before a trial. ISPs also have to block access. The streaming thing is more directed to pirate TV and sports broadcasts online, not youtube.
Having someone to contact would be a blessing for a lot of companies that get content pirated online, but the law is vague enough to completely cripple fair use of any sort of IP. This law needs to be rewritten.
Did I understand everything all right?
 
Sgt.Pepper said:
The ones that would abuse this law would be the corporations, not the government. They are the ones taking down, muting videos, and banning users in Youtube. If you watched the Vimeo video, it explains this.

Other countries would start making their own laws as well.

Major internet companies' open letter, in case you haven't read it.
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I watched that video just now. It's hard for me to imagine the Internet in a crippled form like it would be if this bill makes it through, but I trust my Congressmen to massively screw everything up, so I'm afraid I won't have to imagine for long.
 
You know what's really disturbing about this. It's that this story and bill are hardly getting any traction in the media. There are articles here and there but for the most part it's being ignored. Most of Silicon Valley is vehemently against this shit, understandably, but other than that nobody seems to care.
 
slit said:
You know what's really disturbing about this. It's that this story and bill are hardly getting any traction in the media. There are articles here and there but for the most part it's being ignored. Most of Silicon Valley is vehemently against this shit, understandably, but other than that nobody seems to care.
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They need to have serious discussions about Kim Kardashian's divorce. No time for this!!
 
X-Frame said:
They need to have serious discussions about Kim Kardashian's divorce. No time for this!!
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Self regulation is the ideal solution. As a user I'm annoyed when YouTube gives me a "copyrighted content taken down" message, but I know its better then the alternative. And I'm opposing this bill completely because I know what a mess its going to be.

But here's where the argument gets interesting for me: do people have a right to access any page on the internet regardless of content? Should the government be able to block access to ThePirateBay, a site which is explicitly run to enable copyright violation?
 
The_Technomancer said:
Self regulation is the ideal solution. As a user I'm annoyed when YouTube gives me a "copyrighted content taken down" message, but I know its better then the alternative. And I'm opposing this bill completely because I know what a mess its going to be.

But here's where the argument gets interesting for me: do people have a right to access any page on the internet regardless of content? Should the government be able to block access to ThePirateBay, a site which is explicitly run to enable copyright violation?
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This is more because this bill is based on corporation interest rather than public interest.
 
slit said:
You know what's really disturbing about this. It's that this story and bill are hardly getting any traction in the media. There are articles here and there but for the most part it's being ignored. Most of Silicon Valley is vehemently against this shit, understandably, but other than that nobody seems to care.
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The media is controlled by the same corporations that would want this bill passed.
 
Arde5643 said:
This is more because this bill is based on corporation interest rather than public interest.
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Which is why I oppose it. But I know some people are ideologically against any form of internet regulation or control.
 
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