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[DCharlie]

"Pat Summitt became the winningest coach in the history of college basketball Tuesday when her Vols beat Purdue 75-54"

... winningest?

when did that one come into existance?

 

[mrklaw]

about the same time 'funnest' did.

 

[8bit]

Also: More-ish.

 

[psycho_snake]

According to dictionary.com, the word exists. its the first time I have ever heard of it.

 

[olimario]

win·ning·est ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wnng-st)
adj. Informal

More successful or winning more often than any others of its kind: “It was one of America's winningest days for women” (Christian Science Monitor).

It's informal everywhere but ESPN. I've been hearing it there for years.

 

[aoi tsuki]

Pfft. A local weather forecaster said the temperatures would be "up near sixty-five degrees" today.

+1 Teh South

 

[olimario]

Pfft. A local weather forecaster said the temperatures would be "up near sixty-five degrees" today.

+1 Teh South

What's wrong with that? And what's wrong with saying 'I'm fixin' to do something'?
Words and phrases have been around so long and are so commonly used that they become a part of acceptable language.

 

[xsarien]

"Pat Summitt became the winningest coach in the history of college basketball Tuesday when her Vols beat Purdue 75-54"

... winningest?

when did that one come into existance?

It's informal, which makes it technically correct, but not something you'd, say, put outside of a sports column.

Speaking of funky variations on the language, the British predilection for pluralizing companies drives me absolutely batty.

e.g., in the U.K., you'd say "Sony are really screwing Europe with the PSP's late launch." In the U.S., you'd say "Sony is really screwing Europe with the PSP's late launch."

 

[aoi tsuki]

What's wrong with that? And what's wrong with saying 'I'm fixin' to do something'?
Words and phrases have been around so long and are so commonly used that they become a part of acceptable language.

How long until "aks" is an acceptable alternative to "ask"?

http://pawell13.by.ru/tlz/sounds/2acv04/204-02.mp3
http://pawell13.by.ru/tlz/sounds/2acv04/204-02.mp3

 

[Pellham]

Speaking of funky variations on the language, the British predilection for pluralizing companies drives me absolutely batty.

e.g., in the U.K., you'd say "Sony are really screwing Europe with the PSP's late launch." In the U.S., you'd say "Sony is really screwing Europe with the PSP's late launch."

Aren't we the only country that singularizes companies? Not that I mind of course, but I see Australians and other people saying "Sony are" as well.

 

[Ghost]

The one that gets me is check/cheque

We gave you two seperate words why do you only use one of them?!

 

[xsarien]

The one that gets me is check/cheque

We gave you two seperate words why do you only use one of them?!

Why use both?

 

[Azih]

I make the effort to use 'are' instead of 'is' for companies myself. Companies are collections of people after all and giving corporations an identity of their own independent of that is friggin' creepy.

 

[Blackace]

only used by sports broadcasters...... Just because you are stuck in England doesn't mean you have to try to pick on American English!


PS: DROP THE U!

 

[Ghost]

Why use both?

Because they mean different things.

PS: DROP THE U!

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[xsarien]

Because they mean different things.

In the U.S., we have one "check" to rule all of the definitions.

 

[Blackace]

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well then at least start speaking French then! because that's where the extra U came from

 

[Loki]

I make the effort to use 'are' instead of 'is' for companies myself. Companies are collections of people after all and giving corporations an identity of their own independent of that is friggin' creepy.

Overanalyze, much?

 

[Azih]

It's friggin' creepy I tells ya!

 

[pj]

I make the effort to use 'are' instead of 'is' for companies myself. Companies are collections of people after all and giving corporations an identity of their own independent of that is friggin' creepy.

I think they're both right.. [people at] Sony are making a new kind of tv. [Everyone within] Sony is working on a new kind of tv.

 

[Dilbert]

Colloquialisms drive me crazy sometimes. The hay-chewing contraction "y'all" is going to incite me to violence someday.

As long as we're throwing out bad language which originated in sportscasting, my pet peeve is the use of "defensed." We already have a word for that, assholes -- it's "defended." Does anyone know who started that annoying trend?

 

[Blackace]

I think they're both right.. [people at] Sony are making a new kind of tv. [Everyone within] Sony is working on a new kind of tv.

that's not exactly how this happens...but it is one way to look at it.

 

[xsarien]

I think they're both right.. [people at] Sony are making a new kind of tv. [Everyone within] Sony is working on a new kind of tv.

Oh, as far as grammar is concerned, both are correct. It's strictly a case of the U.K. and U.S. being seperated by a common language. (As the saying (sorta) goes.)

 

[xsarien]

Colloquialisms drive me crazy sometimes. The hay-chewing contraction "y'all" is going to incite me to violence someday.

Heh. The class president in college used "y'all" in his column at least once per week. It drove myself and others absolutely batshit for no logical reason.

 

[fennec fox]

Company names are singular and to me it doesn't look right at all to act as if they have an s at the end of them.

Nintendo is putting out yet another stupid Mario game.

And, just to keep the rule intact even in odd cases,

Codemasters is putting out yet another stupid Dizzy game.

 

[Blackace]

Oh, as far as grammar is concerned, both are correct. It's strictly a case of the U.K. and U.S. being seperated by a common language. (As the saying (sorta) goes.)

well in American English it is wrong. You'd flunk out of grade if you wrote "Sony are making the PlayStation 3"

Sad that a lot of American people don't even know there are other English standards... However, the word "tyre" just looks flat out wrong to me :lol

 

[xsarien]

well in American English it is wrong. You'd flunk out of grade if you wrote "Sony are making the PlayStation 3"

I was the guy in the English class that would argue this point until the teacher either just relented, or confirmed that I had a case.

 

[Soybean]

Yeah, I hate that "Sony are doing this" stuff too. While comprised of many people, Sony and other companies are still incorporated as a single entity. If one of my cells fucks up and starts reproducing in a cancerous (hope I didnt make that word up) manner, my body is going to die, not my body are going to die. Similarly, Sony is going to to be in trouble if this British guy doesn't get things in order.

 

[Blackace]

I was the guy in the English class that would argue this point until the teacher either just relented, or confirmed that I had a case.

yeah but a lot of American school teachers don't know about British English, so they'd use MS Word and get the red line of "flunkin-ur-ass" to show up..

 

[xsarien]

yeah but a lot of American school teachers don't know about British English, so they'd use MS Word and get the red line of "flunkin-ur-ass" to show up..

I'd be more worried about the teacher's ability in general if they were using Word's well-meaning, but sometimes misguided attempts at correction in lieu of their own knowledge.

 

[borghe]

delete

 

[Blackace]

I'd be more worried about the teacher's ability in general if they were using Word's well-meaning, but sometimes misguided attempts at correction in lieu of their own knowledge.

well you'd have the right to be worried in the American public education system.

 

[xsarien]

well you'd have the right to be worried in the American public education system.

In general, yeah. Thankfully my high school had teachers who were a bit above the national average.

or is this just another bash america thread.....

"Another"? Sensitive much?

 

[borghe]

delete

 

[Azih]

Yeah, it's been oddly slow.

 

[DCharlie]

"give it a break. just on the first page alone you have the shiavo thread which has resorted to bashing the american government, this thread, and the "what do you hate more" thread. and that is from within just the last 2.5 hours...."

hey , it's not our fault your country is full of inbred hick retards who have to use words like "winningest" because the phrase "most successful" would mean people have to figure out what one extra word means

Actually, "most successful" sounds potentially gay and may possibly be "French".

*runs*

seriously though, this probably is the hatingest thread ever.

 

[lilraylewis]

To renew the discussion on collective nouns, I think the rule in American English is this: if all the individuals encompassed by a noun are acting in unison, the noun is singular; if this is not the case, the the noun is plural.

So, for example, "the team wins the game" and "the team argue amongst themselves" are both correct in American English.

When speaking, though, I hardly ever assign a plural verb to a collective noun. It sound fucked up to me.

 

[wobedraggled]

How long until "aks" is an acceptable alternative to "ask"?

I hate that SO much.

Can I AXE you a question?

No you can't put a sharp blade into me to make me answer your inquiry.

 

[xsarien]

give it a break. just on the first page alone you have the shiavo thread which has resorted to bashing the american government

Hey, guess what? The U.S. government isn't infallable. When they ignore the Constitution to score political points, they get called on it. You need - desperately - to learn to seperate "making fun of politicians' acts" with "making fun of the United States."

 

[lilraylewis]

hey , it's not our fault your country is full of inbred hick retards who have to use words like "winningest" because the phrase "most successful" would mean people have to figure out what one extra word means

Actually, "most successful" sounds potentially gay and may possibly be "French".

*runs*

seriously though, this probably is the hatingest thread ever.

Well now, to be fair, "most successful" would be a little ambiguous. If I saw a sign that read "Pat Summit: Most Successful NCAA Coach Ever," I'd be a little confused. I mean, in what way is she the most successful: player graduation rate, most wins, most championships, etc. "Winningest," then, is a useful little word in my opinion...

Spoiler

, you fuckin' limey.

 

[alejob]

How about the use of the word "literally"? It's always misused. If you say literally it means what you wrote word for word.

Like I've heard comentators say "he has to carry his team on the back, literally". That means all the other players should jump on his back.

 

[borghe]

delete

 

[fennec fox]

There was no arrogance in this thread until you came along. British English v. American English is a favorite topic of mine, and now look!

And then you deleted the post I was replying to, you prat!

 

[u_neek]

How long until "aks" is an acceptable alternative to "ask"?

http://pawell13.by.ru/tlz/sounds/2acv04/204-02.mp3
http://pawell13.by.ru/tlz/sounds/2acv04/204-02.mp3

And they actually use that word throughout the entire series. Love Futurama!