american idiot is 10 years old this year

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Meh. American Idiot being ten years old?

THIS album is 20 years old:

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Exactly.

Fuck that rock-opera type shit.

1994 Green Day along with 1,038 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours & Ker-Plunk are where its at.

Get off my lawn.
 
The Huffington Post Poly-Sci 101 political punk movement was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for west-coast punk rock.

Fuck, even the Get Up Kids were cashing in on the Rock Against Bush bandwagon. You're a midwest emo band, what are you doin'!?
So damn true. If you want to put a finger on exactly when punk died, pick up a Rock against Bush album.
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American Idiot is a great rock album. I personally prefer Dookie over it but it's easily their second best record.

I love pop-punk music but dammit if I not hate that term, it's impossible to talk about it without things derailing into "it's not punk" territory.

Also, Taking Back Sunday are great. Not the best in the scene but far from awful.
 
Fucking hell, Green Day on the American Idiot tour was the first gig I went to, almost impossible to believe that was almost 10 years ago.

I can't listen to the album anymore these days though. I really went off it and anything GD post-AA.
 
Thought it was great when it first came out, but I can really only listen to the latter half of the album these days. I really do like Wake Me Up When September Ends, despite the endless airplay it once recieved.

Everything they did before AI though was loads better though. I'd even argue Dos! was a better album(Stop Drop and Roll! certainly was).


And the Rock Against Bush records had some great songs on them, although one of them was definitely more quality heavy than the other one.
 
Never was much of a Green Day fan, but the title track has a message I can definitely get behind.

I am surprised that it is 10 years old already. Shit.
 
I was a huge fan of Green Day in their early days. It reminds me of our basketball warm ups and bus trips in middle school. I had Dookie on cassette and listened to it while I mowed our lawn. I can still remember all the words to each song on that album.



I would say that I actively dislike the direction that they took after American Idiot. It is a completely different band.
 
I honestly really liked both American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown. Of course, I'm one of those types that really just listens to the music itself, and I don't usually try to dissect the lyrics. If I did that, maybe I'd find myself agreeing with most of the Internet...not sure.
 
Remember when this came out. Only liked Holiday off the album, some others were alright, some weren't.

Whilst I've never really been a fan of Green Day, I find Basket Case and Holiday to be genuinely great songs.
 
I agree with everyone posting Dookie. Now THAT album takes me back, stopped listening to GD after insomniac/nimrod.
I remember being on hold with the local radio station for ages waiting to request Basket Case. Ahhhhh memories. American Idiot blows though.
 
I'm not really into that genre, but it has some good stuff on it.

I felt old when it came out (I was around for Green Day's first run,) and now this makes me feel even older.
 
I'm not wild about this album, other than the "Jesus of Suburbia" track. It's basically five songs in one, complete with signature changes and lots of great riffs. It's nine minutes of fun.

Worst tracks: all others, but especially "American Idiot," "Holiday," and "Wake Me Up When September Ends." I don't like this as a concept album and I don't like the individual songs, so it's not too hot in my book.

Nothing against Green Day, mind you. I loved them in middle school and high school and still like several of their albums. 90s Green Day was really, really good. Every album from 39/Smooth up through Nimrod were great. Dookie and Nimrod are my two favorites.

Then a new century started and they've never been as enjoyable.
 
Green Day is such a terrible band. I remember when this came out all the bros at my high school were blastin this stuff from their pickup trucks trying to look hard, haha.
 
I remember getting Dookie, the first CD I ever owned. I liked American Idiot, super catchy and overall a good pace over the entire album. It was nice to listen to an album that tied itself to other songs in the album. Powerchords, catchy bass lines, crisp drumming and simple harmonies have been their formula for almost a quarter of a century.


I feel old.
 
Like all rock operas, the actual story/themes are pretentious nonsense.
 
Great Album. I remember not having the highest expectations following warning!, but the rock-opera concept won we over. Jesus of Suburbia, St. Jimmy, Give Me Novacaine & Letterbomb are still some of my favorite Green Day songs. Also saw American Idiot twice on Broadway (2nd time had Billie Joe as St. Jimmy); both of which were good fun.
 
This album represents the period of my life when I listened to the radio non-stop at work and bought whatever albums they played.
I loved this album at the time (I think I was 19/20) but I honestly can't listen to it now, at all.
 
The first Ramones record is solidly pop punk and released on a major label.

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To give The Clash some credit they did it 20 years before Green Day, were more punk and actually made good music.
2) The Sex Pistols and the rest of their generation of punk were born at a time when major labels were the only options. We live in a time where I have friends that have self released albums. There's no excuse in this day and age to write an album that is anti establishment while being signed to a multi million dollar corporation. Especially when you have the money the guys in Green Day have.


Plus if there's any example of a punk band not being anti-establishment, it's the Ramones. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_ideologies#Apolitical

It's not really about Green Day being pop punk, it's about them being hypocrites
 
Plus if there's any example of a punk band not being anti-establishment, it's the Ramones. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_ideologies#Apolitical

It's not really about Green Day being pop punk, it's about them being hypocrites
The anti-radio, anti-commercialism, anti-establishment part of punk really developed in the local hardcore scenes of the 80s. Of course, any time you try to define punk rock, it's immediately oxymoronic to narrow down a scene that's supposed to be welcoming to ideas.
 
The anti-radio, anti-commercialism, anti-establishment part of punk really developed in the local hardcore scenes of the 80s. Of course, any time you try to define punk rock, it's immediately oxymoronic to narrow down a scene that's supposed to be welcoming to ideas.

Right, so the themes of the Ramones songs weren't contradictory to their marketing, distribution, and general music making process. Green Day, on the other hand, does have that contradiction.
 
I thought the thread title said "American Idol...."
and thought to myself "that means I've been ignoring this show for 10 years"

then I reread it just before entering, and though, "Oh, maybe that was what they were referring to" only to realize this was some GreeDay album.
 
here's my interpretation of the album:
st. jimmy is the alter ego of Jesus of Suburbia. jesus is lonely and a character totally opposite from him emerges. he says that only his shadow walks beside him and in st. jimmy, jimmy is said to be the light of the silhouette. Jesus tries using novacaine in order to rid jimmy and soon becomes suicidal due to Jimmy in his head and it saddens whatsername. "Nobody likes you ..." is Jimmy speaking in his head and making him come to realize the way things really are. He does not want to admit it but soon realizes that Jimmy is right and he is his only hope. When jimmy died, he had no reason to stay and runs away from everything and then starts a rocknroll career and then later on comes back to his town and ends up seeing his old girldfriend, whatsername"

but in the lyrics of homecoming it says dear j w/rock and girlfriends lyrics and the one line it says "i got a kid in the bay" and in the opening song of homecoming it says "jimmy died today/blew his brains out into the bay
 
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