Meh. American Idiot being ten years old?
THIS album is 20 years old:
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Exactly.
Fuck that rock-opera type shit.
1994 Green Day along with 1,038 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours & Ker-Plunk are where its at.
Get off my lawn.
Meh. American Idiot being ten years old?
THIS album is 20 years old:
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So damn true. If you want to put a finger on exactly when punk died, pick up a Rock against Bush album.The Huffington Post Poly-Sci 101 political punk movement was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for west-coast punk rock.
Fuck, even the Get Up Kids were cashing in on the Rock Against Bush bandwagon. You're a midwest emo band, what are you doin'!?
Exactly.
Fuck that rock-opera type shit.
1994 Green Day along with 1,038 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours & Ker-Plunk are where its at.
Get off my lawn.
I didn't know that was on BJA's part. which is awesome, that's a great comp. got me hooked on Lipstick Homicide, The Dopamines, and The Max Levine Ensemble, among a few othersAlso he got Larry Livermore to make The Thing That Ate Larry Livermore. Which is awesome and has a lot of the best current pop-punk bands.
The first Ramones record is solidly pop punk and released on a major label.Because pop punk is the commercialization of a genre founded on anti-consumerism. It doesn't make sense.
How can you be so right, and then suddenly so wrong?Why should a song be penalized for being catchy? Isnt that one of the points of making a song?
Horrible album.
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Also not enough Nimrod love in here.
Dookie is arguably their best, but I prefer Nimrod slightly more.
Green Day is such a terrible band. I remember when this came out all the bros at my high school were blastin this stuff from their pickup trucks trying to look hard, haha.
I fuckin lol'dFirst album to make me stop and really think about what's going on in the world and what I can do to change it but I didn't do anything at all
The first Ramones record is solidly pop punk and released on a major label.
To give The Clash some credit they did it 20 years before Green Day, were more punk and actually made good music.
2) The Sex Pistols and the rest of their generation of punk were born at a time when major labels were the only options. We live in a time where I have friends that have self released albums. There's no excuse in this day and age to write an album that is anti establishment while being signed to a multi million dollar corporation. Especially when you have the money the guys in Green Day have.
The anti-radio, anti-commercialism, anti-establishment part of punk really developed in the local hardcore scenes of the 80s. Of course, any time you try to define punk rock, it's immediately oxymoronic to narrow down a scene that's supposed to be welcoming to ideas.Plus if there's any example of a punk band not being anti-establishment, it's the Ramones. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_ideologies#Apolitical
It's not really about Green Day being pop punk, it's about them being hypocrites
The anti-radio, anti-commercialism, anti-establishment part of punk really developed in the local hardcore scenes of the 80s. Of course, any time you try to define punk rock, it's immediately oxymoronic to narrow down a scene that's supposed to be welcoming to ideas.
Looking back, that was such an odd time in history. Then we reelected Bush.
Remember Rock Against Bush?