• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

American Idol is back!

Aside from Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood, what did any of the winners end up doing? I guess similarly, where are the winners of The Voice?

I remember Clay Aiken had a career, despite placing second, but even the guy who beat him just up and disappeared.

Academy Award Winner Jennifer Hudson for the non-winners as well. And I thin Fantasia still has a career.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
They JUST cancelled it due to declining ratings?!?!?!

I really don't get why Fox would want it back. Nobody cared about their FINAL SEASON run. And like you said, they JUST cancelled it. American Idol on ABC might perk a few ears up, they do well with The Bachelor and Dancing with the Stars. Promote during those shows and retool the format a little and you're good. American Idol back on Fox is business as usual. Nobody will care.
 

morningbus

Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Is ABC really called "The Alphabet"? I've never heard that before.

All the older broadcast networks have these weird nicknames:

ABC - The Alphabet Network
NBC - The Peacock Network
CBS - The Tiffany Network

I don't think Fox or CW have nicknames, but the WB was called the Frog.
 
A key part of this revival is that Simon will be back.
If it gets debuted on NBC, which it won't since the battle is between ABC and Fox.
The ABC deal would preclude the involvement of original judge Simon Cowell, who was rumored to be a possibility to rejoin the show at NBC, where he produces ”America's Got Talent" and has an exclusive agreement.
 
image.jpg
 

KSweeley

Member
This article reports that NBC did make an attempt to get American Idol, article also questions why American Idol is being revived at a "Big Four" network: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/american-idol-revival-poised-move-forward-at-abc-1000790

ABC emerged as the front-runner to land Idol earlier this week, though Fox — the show's home for 15 seasons — was said to still be in the mix. NBC, which also put in an offer for the show earlier this year, was out of the bidding.

Few in reality thought American Idol was gone for good when Fox shut it down after 15 seasons in 2016, but a broadcast return this soon seemed unlikely. Still, Fremantle has been aggressive in trying to find a new home for the once-global franchise.

The return of American Idol back on the Big Four is a bit of a head-scratcher. It was a shell of its former self when it finally wrapped up, averaging a 3.0 rating among adults 18-49 and 11 million viewers in its final season. Those numbers, which include time-shifting, are actually pretty good by most standards — though not by the ones the show was held up against. American Idol came with an incredible price tag for Fox, which had to pay astronomical salaries to talent — most notably to Seacrest and judge Jennifer Lopez.
 

conpfreak

Member
American Idol is fine, but they need to alter the formula a bit. There's no need for people to line up in cities around the country when you can upload an audition in a instant. Round 1 should definitely be video submission only and have the internet vote on the entries. Round 2 should be judges clearing out the junk from that group, then Round 3 should be back to internet voting.
 

Etzer

Member
Eh, not interested. I'm not a fan of the joke auditions that producers let through. At least on The Voice every contestant is at least decent.
 

JCX

Member
American Idol is fine, but they need to alter the formula a bit. There's no need for people to line up in cities around the country when you can upload an audition in a instant. Round 1 should definitely be video submission only and have the internet vote on the entries. Round 2 should be judges clearing out the junk from that group, then Round 3 should be back to internet voting.

I've been over auditions for a long time. Last few seasons I would just catch highlights online.

Reduce auditions, lengthen Hollywood Week (best part of the show).

For Semis, I prefer the Top 24 whittled down to 12 over 3 weeks method.

Also please get rid of the Judges' save. Leads to worse performances, and it would only have prevented one Shocking!Elimination (Jennifer Hudson) from happening. Also it never saved anyone with a chance save for Jessica Sanchez.
 
Do any of the talent that make it through these shows ever actually reach any amount of sustained success?

It seems like as soon as they're done with the show everyone moves on.
 
well, it's official.
“American Idol is a pop-culture staple that left the air too soon,” said Dungey. “ABC is the right home to reignite the fan base. We are thrilled viewers will once again share in these inspiring stories of people realizing their dreams.”
How is leaving after 14 years too soon?
Disney co-chairman Ben Sherwood — in another line could be interpreted as a dig at their rival — said the new version would be an improvement upon Fox’s run.

“‘Idol is an entertainment icon, and now it will air where it belongs, in ABC’s lineup of addictive fan favorites alongside Dancing with the Stars and The Bachelor,” he said. “America, get ready for the return of a bigger, bolder and better-than-ever Idol.”
Is that a threat?
 

chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
I think this either lives or dies based on if they can get Seacrest back. He really was the glue that bound this show together.
 

BigDug13

Member
It'd be interesting if they use this as an opportunity to soft-reboot the format a bit. Shorten up the season, maybe see if they can make live voting and elimination work in practice. I think if you can condense this down into a regular Sunday block of programming, there's potential for strong event television.

Or more likely, this dies in less than a season.

How do you make live voting and elimination work when only two time zones get to do it while the show is airing? There will be zero reason for people on West side to watch the show if they wish to vote.
 

DonShula

Member
I've been over auditions for a long time. Last few seasons I would just catch highlights online.

Reduce auditions, lengthen Hollywood Week (best part of the show).

For Semis, I prefer the Top 24 whittled down to 12 over 3 weeks method.

Also please get rid of the Judges' save. Leads to worse performances, and it would only have prevented one Shocking!Elimination (Jennifer Hudson) from happening. Also it never saved anyone with a chance save for Jessica Sanchez.

Hollywood Week was also my favorite. Seems like a lot of drama there which is still unlike the reality TV we have now.

I think reviving this on a Disney network and giving it the backing of their vast resources makes some sense. If anything can return Idol to prominence, it's Disney's cross promotion. And I'm not joking about that either. Disney has its tentacles in a lot of demographic buckets and would give Idol a ton of visibility.
 
How do you make live voting and elimination work when only two time zones get to do it while the show is airing? There will be zero reason for people on West side to watch the show if they wish to vote.

The OP mentioned it as counter-programming to Sunday Night Football, which could mean they air it live nationwide. Doing one longer show a week that includes an elimination could bundle everything up into a pretty digestible package. Personally, I gave up on the show as it became a series of bloated distractions that put absolutely every bit of progression behind a commercial break.

Think of it like this. Two hour show on Sunday nights. Performers do their thing, audience gives a thumbs up/down rating in real time. Voting only active for that performer during their song + judging and ad break. Performances conclude, special musical guest distracts the audience while everything is tallied, and your host unveils the night's rankings. Bottom goes home (possible judge's save).

Whole thing wraps up in a reasonable time, and in a format that translates well for the DVR audience. Plus if you're cutting all the existing talent (Seacrest, J. Lo, etc) - it could be cheap as hell to produce.
 

KSweeley

Member
ABC has officially announced the pickup of American Idol today, May 9th: https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/american-idol-abc-revival-1202419304/

MAY 9, 2017

ABC is the official new home of “American Idol.”

The broadcaster revealed Tuesday morning on “Good Morning America” that it has given a greenlight to a 16th season of the long-running music competition. The series order ends not only a process that saw multiple networks explore bringing the reality franchise to their air, but also a briefer-than-anticipated absence for a show that just a year ago celebrated its “farewell season.”

“America, get ready for the return of a bigger, bolder and better-than-ever ‘Idol,’ ” Disney/ABC TV Group president Ben Sherwood promised.

“ ‘American Idol’ is a pop-culture staple that left the air too soon,” said Channing Dungey, president of ABC Entertainment, in a statement. “ABC is the right home to reignite the fan base. We are thrilled viewers will once again share in these inspiring stories of people realizing their dreams.”

The new-model “Idol” comes from FremantleMedia North America and Core Media Group’s 19 Entertainment. Executive producers include FremantleMedia North America’s Trish Kinane and Jennifer Mullin. Fox is believed to still have an ownership interest in the show.

”ABC’s passion and enthusiasm make them a perfect home for ‘American Idol,’ ” said Cecile Frot-Coutaz, CEO of FremantleMedia Group. “We are excited to be partnering with them to discover the next generation of talented artists. It’s an irresistible combination that means now is the ideal time to welcome back one of the most successful shows in the history of contemporary television.”
 

lenovox1

Member
I think this either lives or dies based on if they can get Seacrest back. He really was the glue that bound this show together.

Seacrest works for ABC Studios now. He's Michael Strahan's replacement on Live with Kelly.

They've talked about it on the show. He's willing to come back. But keep in mind that he was one of the more expensive elements on the FOX show. I doubt he comes back for less money than he was making on FOX.
 
Seems random that ABC of all networks would pick this up.

I can see it in terms of all the cross promotion they can do, possibly have a new area in the parks as an excuse to do Disney karaoke or something, maybe bring back those *kid idol* shows for the Disney Channel.
 

Ducarmel

Member
I hope after auditions they just focus on the singing/competition and power through it and skip the emotional back story parts.

they wont do this they will take the emotional back ground story to levels beyond what fox did.
 

netguy503

Member
Hollywood Week was also my favorite. Seems like a lot of drama there which is still unlike the reality TV we have now.

I think reviving this on a Disney network and giving it the backing of their vast resources makes some sense. If anything can return Idol to prominence, it's Disney's cross promotion. And I'm not joking about that either. Disney has its tentacles in a lot of demographic buckets and would give Idol a ton of visibility.

Isn't the "American Idol Experience" at Disney MGM studios?
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
It feels too soon for this.

Katy Perry would be a good choice though. She actually has a personality that would work.

I mean, Jennifer Lopez? Really?
 
The only thing I got from this is that Disney needs to take back Monday Night Football from ESPN and put it back to its rightful place on ABC.
 
Top Bottom