BreezyLimbo
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Hows housing costs for students over there? Thats the biggest hurdle I see in this
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Americans can study in Germany for free, in English
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Sweden changed their rules for non EU citizens back in 2012 or something, so now they have to pay.
Chainsawkitten
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sankt-Antonio
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I studied from 2009 till 2013 here and had to pay for it..
right before I started they introduced semester fees and not long after I finished, they canceled them again. xD
Ditto. I was so pissed.
Stereogatari
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Looks like it.
Seriously cool, how have I never heard of this?!
I want to go back and study a STEM subject or International Relations and get a first (I did IT at uni, went to a shit uni and barely passed).
If I can do it for free and at a country where degree is as prestigious as UK? It's a no brainer.
Nope, I'm American. Somebody earlier seems to have mentioned that Sweden already shut its doors on free university for non-EU folks.
Bedameister
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You sure we could take all those American refugees?
The difference between Germany and others is that Germany provides free education even to non European nationals, and regardless of their country of origin.
Tesseract
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we did win ww2 4 u c'mon wtf
You can look for Doctrate.
If you are interested in Signal Processing they do have available positions in TU Berlin
I studied from 2009 till 2013 here and had to pay for it..
right before I started they introduced semester fees and not long after I finished, they canceled them again. xD
Tuition fees were state based and in 2009 there were already several states that cancelled them again or never introduced them in the first place, like Hesse or Berlin. So, you could have studied for free.
Skellig Gra
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I'm definitely shipping my son off to Europe for university unless something drastically changes here in the next 18 years
With the tuition you save it's not a hurdle at all.
Student acommodations (small rooms, shared bathrooms) cost 170-230.
Rooms in shared appartments go from 300-450.
Himynameischris
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Hmmm they have Astronomy programs....I'm going to look into this
Necromanti
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I was considering either Sweden or the UK for my graduate studies (as a EU citizen) in a few years time, but I never thought about Germany. I'd be happy if I could get a biomedical or bioinformatics degree from a globally recognized university to help my future job prospects. I would love to further my education in the States (where I'm currently working) since the job prospects are not as dismal here. It's hard to figure out how to go about things.
Phantast2k
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I will put this in the op
I welcome any info on studying in those places. I'll put it in the op too.
I'm kind of in the same boat ^^I studied from 2009 till 2013 here and had to pay for it..
right before I started they introduced semester fees and not long after I finished, they canceled them again. xD
But yo, it was just 500 euros per semester. You'll pay like 3000 dollars per trimester (3 undergrad courses) at a random Cal State. It's insane in US.
This if of course true and should also be considered. Of course your example is sort of extreme (France, Paris ^^), but at the very least most old people will struggle to understand you in Germany. That's for sure.
If you're foreigner you should get preferential treatment when it comes to dorms. Dorms are cheap as fuck at some 200-300 euros / month with everything (even internet) included. Renting, however, will cost more & require more effort and if you're unemployed or don't work much you'll need someone properly employed to co-sign for you (in case you forfeit rent). However this depends on the landlord. Also you're free to flat / house share: http://www.wg-gesucht.de/en/
As far as tuition free programs go, you can calculate with ~ 250 - 300 euros per semester (so called semester fee) which will net you free public transportation in the city (or the whole state, depending on the uni), check out the links in the op. Also I have no idea what a Pell Grant is ;(
Who cares though? It's never too late to pursue your dreams.
You're welcome. You should be able to work part time in most areas, check out the op.
I hope so, but by then I also hope you don't have to & US has free education too.
There's like a bazillion music programs in Germany. At my uni when I was dabbling into Korean, they acquainted us with a group of some 50 Koreans (so that we help each other out in studying the respective foreign language). And I kid you not, some 80% of them came to Germany to study music. Seems like studying music in Germany is prestigious.
But it seems like there are no programs which are in English only & free.
Through a more in-depth search I found this:
Music Acoustics • College of Music, Detmold • (University of Fine Arts) • Detmold
With tuition fees there's also this:
Music Therapy, Master of Arts • SRH University Heidelberg • Heidelberg
The rest (374 music MA) is in German only.
Edit: I've got to go so I'll update the op tomorrow.
timetokill
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Man that sounds awesome, wish I knew about this earlier. who knows, maybe I'll do it anyway
I typed music into the search bar and the results dwindled to basically nothing.
Phantast2k
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Also before I go. Pretty much no one buys textbooks in Germany. Course material often alludes to textbooks as extended material. And even then, most of them are either available from the uni library or available for download. And even if not, no book will ever cost you more than some 30-50 euros. Not even the McGraw-Hills, Wileys & Pearsons -> int. editions ftw
User 479360
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Sounds pretty cool. Wish I had the cojones and capacity to do such a thing.
Korean and Japanese students come in droves to study music in Austria, but you may be right that the courses are offered in German only. They learn the language parallel to studying music
Well, there's always Kaiserslautern (K-Town), which has a large American population due to the military base in Ramstein. Not the most exciting city though.
Sylverstone14
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Of course I learn about this 3 months away from graduation...
Glendemonium
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Wow, this would of been perfect for me. Free college and get to travel to another part of the world.
Too bad I'm 35 and stuck in debt. Thanks America.
Too bad I'm 35 and stuck in debt. Thanks America.
BreezyLimbo
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davidwhangchoi
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wow! this is interesting, can i go back to school 10+ years later, looks nice places to experience.
My country (France) does the same. University is free + you get help up to 200 or 300 euros/month (don't remember) to pay your rent even if you're a non-EU foreign student. Also free healthcare obv etc...
Bedameister
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Hm, why? I think it would be cool if more Americans would come over to us. However I hardly met Americans so far.
Our departement even has a Transatlantic Dual Bachelor Degree Program but I can't remember any American student to ever be here.
Tesseract
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you can go to college whenever you want, what's with you guys and age
Faynwulf
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I can confirm this!
brickarts295
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Same -_-
There are a total of 50,000 Americans in Germany. So not really a lot
1.21Gigawatts
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Nice thread. More people should learn about this.
TU Munich is very good. I think University of Ulm is also very good in computer science.
Munich is very expensive, though. Expect to pay at least 400-500 rent for a room and be prepared for a long an exhausting search. Munich is by far the most expensive german city, but even though prices are high its very hard to find something.
But having lived in Munich, Hamburg, Berlin and Cologne I'd say with some confidence that munich is the most beautiful german city.
Its also the only german city where you can go surfing in the middle of the city.
TU Munich is probably the best choice when it comes to engineering in germany.
11th rank:
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/carousels/global-employability-university-ranking-2015-results
German government looked into it and found that the foreign students stay on average long enough after their graduation to pay enough in taxes so that the investment pays off.
Universities also appreachiate the diversity among students.
TU Munich is very good. I think University of Ulm is also very good in computer science.
Munich is very expensive, though. Expect to pay at least 400-500 rent for a room and be prepared for a long an exhausting search. Munich is by far the most expensive german city, but even though prices are high its very hard to find something.
But having lived in Munich, Hamburg, Berlin and Cologne I'd say with some confidence that munich is the most beautiful german city.
Its also the only german city where you can go surfing in the middle of the city.
I have a couple friends who are currently doing it and they all seem very happy with their decision.
TU Munich is probably the best choice when it comes to engineering in germany.
11th rank:
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/carousels/global-employability-university-ranking-2015-results
German government looked into it and found that the foreign students stay on average long enough after their graduation to pay enough in taxes so that the investment pays off.
Universities also appreachiate the diversity among students.
Aztechnology
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Well. Damn. After I finish my AA I will definitely consider applying for a program.
Healthcare isn't free here though, but it costs roughly about 80 a month as student.
ShadowSwordmaster
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I will check this out.