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[MetalGuardian]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

This is great, and also reminds me - are there any alerts I can set up for when wave 4 goes up for preorder? All I have to go on as of now is this thread, but I'm gone for work 12 hours out of every day and I don't want to spend each night combing through every page I've missed looking for updates.

Dammit Atendo

 

[Blue Namagem]

This is my vote.

See, that one has good parts, but it seems like it's be much better as the actual OT5.

 

[superNESjoe]

This is great, and also reminds me - are there any alerts I can set up for when wave 4 goes up for preorder? All I have to go on as of now is this thread, but I'm gone for work 12 hours out of every day and I don't want to spend each night combing through every page I've missed looking for updates.

Dammit Atendo

http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/games/amiibo/

 

[Neo Dark]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

That's pretty good. Are we allowed to skip a thread number like that?

Edit: Would be so great if Microsoft had amiibos and it was used for it.

You'e gonna use that as an avatar, right?

Eh. What the heck. Maybe for a bit.

 

[rjinaz]

I really like CH4OS':

Amiibo Thread OT4 | Your amiibo is in another country

Pretty funny stuff there!

Spoiler

and, sadly, for us in NA, it's pretty much true.

Amiibo Thread OT4 | Sorry, but your amiibo is in another country

Has my vote. That or the thread skip one but not sure if mods would allow.

 

[SmackAttack]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

This gets my vote. Literally laughed out loud.

 

[Hero Prinny]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

haha i like this one.

 

[Zonic]

Amiibo Thread 4 | We had import this thread because we didn't pre-order

 

[Neo Dark]

Amiibo Thread OT4 | Sorry, but your amiibo is in another country

Has my vote. That or the thread skip one but not sure if mods would allow.

If we do the first one, we should have this in the OP

Just without the Horizon and Rosalina part

 

[bumpkin]

By a stroke of luck, I found two diamonds in the rough tonight at TRU; Lucario and Fox.

Anyone interested in trading a Mega Man for one of them?

 

[Rizific]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

This.

 

[Blue Namagem]

Amiibo Thread OT4 | Sorry, but your amiibo is in another country

Has my vote. That or the thread skip one but not sure if mods would allow.

Forgot the Sorry part. Yep, I agree. That's a damn good name!

 

[Adam Prime]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

[A WINNER IS YOU.

 

[SmackAttack]

Just without the Horizon and Rosalina part

Speaking of, wonder if Horizon will be back before Lucina pre-orders go up.

 

[falconxcrunner09]

So are pre orders up anywhere in NA besides FYE?

 

[zroid]

I hate to be Mr. No Fun Allowed, but I think that "Because we didn't preorder" joke will ultimately just leave people wishing we hadn't "skipped" a thread on account of a gimmick

 

[Blue Namagem]

I hate to be Mr. No Fun Allowed, but I think that "Because we didn't preorder" joke will ultimately just leave people wishing we hadn't "skipped" a thread on account of a gimmick

It would be perfect for the actual OT5, though.

 

[Mecca]

Doesn't he?? Mine has face blemishes, though, which make me sound crazy, but it bugs me. Here, look:

I'm not insane, they're definitely there! I'm sure you all realize by now how much I love Mega Man and was looking forward to the amiibo, but I still haven't even opened it because I have no idea how to remove those marks.

I'm so torn!


Agree'd. Glad to hear that!

My Rosalina had a smudge on her boobs and I remember someone else had a similar issue with King DeDeDe. It happens sometimes. Unfortunately, it doesn't come off.

 

[Gurrry]

OT4 - Preorder now. Lol jk.

 

[skaflone721]

But think about it: if one person buys a $12.99 figure, they're able to exchange it for another $12.99 figure, regardless of rarity. How does that equal scalping? The only way rarity comes into play is if you're hoping to specifically get much more than the original price you paid. So whether it's MSRP or trade, it's even. If it's a rare and you're selling for more than $12.99, you're scalping.

But it's not $12.99 is it? The market value is different from the MSRP. For your logic to hold true, you should be able trade any amiibo, but you can't. A Villager might have been $12.99, but its value is now, for example like $50. Thus it commands something with equal market value. Its the same thing as scalping, except you're not using cash.

I can't speak for others, but you're making a blanket statement that anyone with untraded extras will scalp them, and that simply can't 100% be the case. "How many will be sold to fellow members for MSRP rather than simply traded out for rares or scalped off? Probably very little" is not a fact.

But it wasn't a blanket statement. I made it clear I was talking about only the ones that do it for the 3 reasons I stated. I excluded everyone else like people who buy to keep one sealed. In that case, my statement is pretty accurate.

 

[IntelliHeath]

So are pre orders up anywhere in NA besides FYE?

Not yet.

 

[Blue Namagem]

My Rosalina had a smudge on her boobs and I remember someone else had a similar issue with King DeDeDe. It happens sometimes. Unfortunately, it doesn't come off.

Yeah, I hear ya. But, this is Mega Man! I'll do what I have to to make this right! Just gotta find a way.

 

[CH4OS]

But think about it: if one person buys a $12.99 figure, they're able to exchange it for another $12.99 figure, regardless of rarity. How does that equal scalping? The only way rarity comes into play is if you're hoping to specifically get much more than the original price you paid. So whether it's MSRP or trade, it's even. If it's a rare and you're selling for more than $12.99, you're scalping.

I can't speak for others, but you're making a blanket statement that anyone with untraded extras will scalp them, and that simply can't 100% be the case. "How many will be sold to fellow members for MSRP rather than simply traded out for rares or scalped off? Probably very little" is not a fact.

Heck I traded my Pit for Club Nintendo coins lol

 

[The12thGripper]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

I vote for this one.

 

[FaintDeftone]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

Yeesssss

 

[Blue Namagem]

But it's not $12.99 is it? The market value is different from the MSRP. For your logic to hold true, you should be able trade any amiibo, but you can't. A Villager might have been $12.99, but its value is now, for example like $50. Thus it commands something with equal market value. Its the same thing as scalping, except you're not using cash.



But it wasn't a blanket statement. I made it clear I was talking about only the ones that do it for the 3 reasons I stated. I excluded everyone else like people who buy to keep one sealed. In that case, my statement is pretty accurate.

That's why we have tiers for trading, based on rarity. The end result is that someone hopefully bought an amiibo at retail and is exchanging that for one in a similar tier from someone who also bought it at retail. Obviously a Yoshi won't trade for a Little Mac, but a Villager will, and Yoshi can trade with Peach. It's not like it's "I want Mac for Villager, plus $40", that's unfair. At the end of the day, these figures are $13, and I feel that they can be traded as such based on their tier rankings. I don't see how that's scalping, I really don't.

 

[CH4OS]

Amiibo Thread OT4 | Sorry, but your amiibo is in another country

Has my vote. That or the thread skip one but not sure if mods would allow.

You sir, have good taste.

 

[skaflone721]

That's why we have tiers for trading, based on rarity. The end result is that someone hopefully bought an amiibo at retail and is exchanging that for one in a similar tier from someone who also bought it at retail. Obviously a Yoshi won't trade for a Little Mac, but a Villager will, and Yoshi can trade with Peach. It's not like it's "I want Mac for Villager, plus $40", that's unfair. At the end of the day, these figures are $13, and I feel that they can be traded as such based on their tier rankings, nothing more. I don't see how that's scalping, I really don't.

You might not see it as such, but is still scalping. Rarity tiers is just a way to assign value. You basically pay $12.99 and profit by trading with something that has a higher market value. The only reason it doesn't seem like it is because we are used to dealing with cash as currency, but rare Amiibos are also currency.

 

[Fandangox]

Shulk arrived! Looks fantastic.

2 down 1 more to go

 

[Blue Namagem]

Heck I traded my Pit for Club Nintendo coins lol

Whoa, seriously? That must've been an interesting set up to get that exchange going!

But hey, you had something of what I assume was similar value that the other person needed, and vice versa, so I see nothing wrong with that. It's not like it was money charged out of your or their pocket for the immediate exchange, so that seems just fine, as long as both parties feel the exchange was mutually beneficial. Selling an amiibo for 5x the price based on rarity is not mutually beneficial, I wouls say, i t's more beneficial to one side than the other.

 

[TheGrue]

My Ike just shipped from Amazon!

 

[Blue Namagem]

You might not see it as such, but is still scalping. Rarity tiers is just a way to assign value. You basically pay $12.99 and profit by trading with something that has a higher market value. The only reason it doesn't seem like it is because we are used to dealing with cash as currency, but rare Amiibos are also currency.

For what you're saying to hold true, it would mean the profit comes from getting a rarer amiibo from one that's not as rare, of less value. That wouldn't fly. Regardless of the perceived value, the trade would be happening in the same tier, so if it's $13 or $1,300, if both are worth the same, it's an even exchange and not scalping.

 

[theSlacker]

You might not see it as such, but is still scalping. Rarity tiers is just a way to assign value. You basically pay $12.99 and profit by trading with something that has a higher market value. The only reason it doesn't seem like it is because we are used to dealing with cash as currency, but rare Amiibos are also currency.

There are levels to everything. Purposely buying an entire stock of an item so that you can prevent others from buying any so that they have to pay a higher price that is determined by you differs greatly from people that buy a few extra/end up with extra from having safety preorders and use them to trade as a way to avoid giving any money at all to scalping jerks.

The market value is irreverent to traders, since it is a product of the thing they are trading to avoid.

 

[That Wont Fit In There]

Honestly surprised DDD hasn't showed up much online. DDD pls ;_;

 

[theSlacker]

Honestly surprised DDD hasn't showed up much online. DDD pls ;_;

I don't think places have officially released him is all. In the US I mean.

 

[Blue Namagem]

There are levels to everything. Purposely buying an entire stock of an item so that you can prevent others from buying any so that they have to pay a higher price that is determined by you differs greatly from people that buy a few extra/end up with extra from having safety preorders and use them to trade as a way to avoid giving any money at all to scalping jerks.

The market value is irreverent to traders, since it is a product of the thing they are trading to avoid.

I do agree with what you're saying, but the market value does dictate the rarity tier, which trades are typically based off of, so as to make it more of a fair trade that leaves both parties with an equally valued item.

 

[Fushin]

Just checked some on hands for DDD today at work. Absolutely nothing anywhere nearby. Hoping it's just a supply constraint.

 

[shandy706]

Wife just brought a shipping box back to me.

Wasn't sure what it was, lol.

My thread suggestion was...

The Amiibo Order: 12.96 |OT4| A Focused Release With Wait Time Events


Too much/complicated? LOL

 

[eternalblue]

For what you're saying to hold true, it would mean the profit comes from getting a rarer amiibo from one that's not as rare, of less value. That wouldn't fly. Regardless of the perceived value, the trade would be happening in the same tier, so if it's $13 or $1,300, if both are worth the same, it's an even exchange and not scalping.

Agreed. There isn't one trader who "profits" while the other doesn't. Both "profit" by adding a figure to their collection that they didn't have before by agreeing to a trade that's acceptable to both parties.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

Mod Response

"I really don't care, lol"

Looks like we got our title folks.

 

[theSlacker]

I do agree with what you're saying, but the market value does dictate the rarity tier, which trades are typically based off of, so as to make it more of a fair trade that leaves both parties with an equally valued item.

Well I think it is more that what a person has dictates what they want from a trade. I would trade any of my amiibos (if I ever bought more then one of each, which I haven't yet) for one of the ones I don't have. It turns out the ones I don't have right now are 6 rares from the first two phases, and unreleased ones from the third, as well as Lucario. The tier lists that people are posting are irrelevant to me. As is the value that they are being sold for by scalpers. I don't do this to profit off of it, and will try not to help anyone else who does this with that as their intention.

Speaking of Lucario, I got to get out to a TRU tomorrow to check since people are saying they got one. (Also I would pay cost +shipping to anyone that ends up finding a US one they don't want).

 

[Blue Namagem]

Mod Response

"I really don't care, lol"

Looks like we got our title folks.

But wait, couldn't we save that for OT5?

What about CH4OS':

Amiibo Thread OT4 | Sorry, your amiibo is in another country

That got a good response, why not that?

 

[skaflone721]

For what you're saying to hold true, it would mean the profit comes from getting a rarer amiibo from one that's not as rare, of less value. That wouldn't fly. Regardless of the perceived value, the trade would be happening in the same tier, so if it's $13 or $1,300, if both are worth the same, it's an even exchange and not scalping.

No. I don't think you understand how the secondary market functions.

A Villager and Pit go for $50, for example.

You want Villager. You pay $50, or find a Pit that's worth $50. That extra Pit you have is worth $50 of goods. It's the same as $50 cash. This is basic economics. It's the same as cash and anyone that says otherwise is rather fooling themselves.

Especially so when this comes at the cost of someone who simply wants one but its sold out in 3 minutes. When you buy doubles, you deprive someone else and then profit with a rarer Amiibo.

You just keep pointing out arbitrary things that are there simply to make people not feel bad about what they are doing. It's OK if you do it. I'm not saying it's horrid or anything, but we have to call a spade a spade.

 

[MatthewB92]

So somewhat new to this amiibo thing. I have mario, luigi, bowser, peaceful, yoshi, link, zelda, sheik, toon link, kirby, pikachu, shulk, samus, diddy Kong, and donkey Kong. Just ordered mega man, sonic, marth, and ike. Been looking for king dedede today and found sheik thankfully lol. So why do i want to get them all? Lol idk....

 

[That Wont Fit In There]

But wait, couldn't we save that for OT5?

What about CH4OS':

Amiibo Thread OT4 | Sorry, your amiibo is in another country

That got a good response, why not that?

The joke in the title is amazing and I say we go for it. We'll all know its the fourth one but if we save it then the title no longer makes sense.

 

[Blue Namagem]

Well I think it is more that what a person has dictates what they want from a trade. I would trade any of my amiibos (if I ever bought more then one of each, which I haven't yet) for one of the ones I don't have. It turns out the ones I don't have right now are 6 rares from the first two phases, and unreleased ones from the third, as well as Lucario. The tier lists that people are posting are irrelevant to me. As is the value that they are being sold for by scalpers. I don't do this to profit off of it, and will try not to help anyone else who does this with that as their intention.

The only reason I feel the perceived value matters is because it makes it more of a fair trade for both parties, is all. There's no official rarity tier list, just a general idea, but that general idea should help fairly guide trades, is all.

Basically, I just want it to be fair for all involved, is all.

 

[btkadams]

Amiibo Thread 5 | Because we didn't preorder thread 4.

amazing!

 

[Fushin]

Sorry guys, couldn't let a good Spaceballs 3: The Search for Spaceballs 2 reference slip by.

 

[theSlacker]

Especially so when this comes at the cost of someone who simply wants one but its sold out in 3 minutes. When you buy doubles, you deprive a scalper who would have bought it and listed it on ebay for a profit right away.

Fixed that for you.

Like I said, there are levels to it. Call all of them scalpers if you want, but I still hate one kind of them a lot more then the others.

 

[Nathan_Drake]

No. I don't think you understand how the secondary market functions.

A Villager and Pit go for $50, for example.

You want Villager. You pay $50, or find a Pit that's worth $50. That extra Pit you have is worth $50 of goods. It's the same as $50 cash. This is basic economics. It's the same as cash and anyone that says otherwise is rather fooling themselves.

Especially so when this comes at the cost of someone who simply wants one but its sold out in 3 minutes. When you buy doubles, you deprive someone else and then profit with a rarer Amiibo.

You just keep pointing out arbitrary things that are there simply to make people not feel bad about what they are doing. It's OK if you do it. I'm not saying it's horrid or anything, but we have to call a spade a spade.

But wait, couldn't we save that for OT5?

What about CH4OS':

Amiibo Thread OT4 | Sorry, your amiibo is in another country

That got a good response, why not that?

No offense guys but can you all take this to PMs. We had a pretty lengthy discussion about this a few hours ago and it thankfully died out. Now it is back again and derailing the thread and filling up pages that people are trying to find Amiibo information in. These "Scalping" discussions have come up many times in many threads and I feel like there should be a GAF thread for people to go off in and talk about this as it is revisited quite often in many collectible threads. It can be filed next to the ethical/unethical point of view of taking part in pricing errors. I am no way trying to censor what is being said but i feel this is beating a dead horse. While this conversation may not have been had with Amiibos specifically it has been had with "insert collectible here." If I am speaking out of place tell me so and I will back off. I was just so happy when this died down earlier and we got a cute picture of a girl getting a Toon Link!

Edit:

Mod Response

"I really don't care, lol"

Looks like we got our title folks.

Love the new thread title