Isn't his accent also fake?
He's clearly a charismatic guy. It's easy for people to come online and call him names but he didn't build that huge following for nothing.
If people don't want the likes of Andrew Tate getting through to young men then they need to give them a better message rather than just trying to tear him down.
I just can't place it though. Isn't he supposed to be English?no one would make up such a ridiculous accent, even him
I just can't place it though. Isn't he supposed to be English?
Cry me a river. Hilarious how a few words cause such severe offence whilst ignoring the underlying message.
A terrible fucking example.I'm going to say it... You're a cunt.
If you can't see how what you said is bigotry, then maybe you never will.
"Hilarious how a few words cause such severe offense"...
That's like saying the N-Word and then when someone pushes back at you, you say the quoted...
In truth I would rather see 10x Andrew Tate's than the hordes of furry trannies that are plaguing the internet and social media. That resetera thread where a community manager got fired and cancelled for implying bathrooms should not be shared by trannies gave me a headache and royally pissed me off. Mental illness is at an all time high.
I actually think the best role model for young men is David Goggins, whom I respect a lot for his mindset and accomplishments.
Do go fuck yourself
You’re describing his actions of sex trafficking and probably rape among other illicit activities as “treatment of women” and comparing it favorably to people who aren’t harming anyone by a) having body dysmorphia or b) playing dress up before sex. If you don’t see why you’re getting pushback then you’ve lost the plotI do hope you know I was being tongue in cheek with the Andrew Tate part. His treatment of women alone is enough for me to strongly dislike him.
Citation please.You’re describing his actions of sex trafficking and probably rape among other illicit activities as “treatment of women” and comparing it favorably to people who aren’t harming anyone by a) having body dysmorphia or b) playing dress up before sex. If you don’t see why you’re getting pushback then you’ve lost the plot
lolCitation please.
Please don't bring strawmans to me. The only one who has lost the plot is you.
In truth I would rather see 10x Andrew Tate's than the hordes of furry trannies that are plaguing the internet and social media.
. His treatment of women alone is enough for me to strongly dislike him.
No, the specific incidence where we are referring to his illegal activities as favorable to transgenderism.
Citation please.
Please don't bring strawmans to me. The only one who has lost the plot is you.
True. I concede it was a terrible example.You brought up "furry trannies" out of nowhere to justify favouring Tate. The only one bringing strawmans is you.
Cry me a river. Hilarious how a few words cause such severe offence whilst ignoring the underlying message.
No wait he hates the people I hate so he must be right….Tate is a motherfucking criminal, likes he’s a Romanian cartel member or some shit. Why are people avoiding this, catch up already.
People are in disbelief, and saying stuff like “I don’t like his views/treatment of women”. We are way passed that.
He is a criminal. Open your eyes.
In truth I would rather see 10x Andrew Tate's than the hordes of furry trannies that are plaguing the internet and social media. That resetera thread where a community manager got fired and cancelled for implying bathrooms should not be shared by trannies gave me a headache and royally pissed me off. Mental illness is at an all time high.
I actually think the best role model for young men is David Goggins, whom I respect a lot for his mindset and accomplishments.
You've missed the point though it was more of both x and y suck but I would prefer more x if it meant less y. Minus the sex trafficking/criminal activity. As mentioned previously it was a poor example and I shouldn't have posted it.You bashing on individuals whove done nothing and committed no crime while praising a known grifter who siphins young males money and also engages in sex trafficking is the perfect encapsulation of why folks like you are being left behind.
Just completely backwards moral standpoint while thinking you are in the right. Dont bash other people when you openly display your lack of principles and etiquette.
He now plays the "i'm ill", and "jail is not good for my health" card. This tuesday they decide if he stays in arrest.
Most criminals here in Romania got out playing this card, accusing the jail conditions are not up to standards.
They caught the Bucharest ex. mayor in flagrant, with bribe money in his hand (literally), recently got sentenced to 12 years in jail and, a couple of hours before the sentence, he flew to Greece, which canceled his verdict on health concerns, and gave him a nice house on the beach.
This is how justice works here, and all is supported by the corrupt media, which sides with all these fucking criminals, accusing some deep state conspiracies, every time a scum like this is in a tight spot.
This one will walk away as well, no doubt.
Tate is a motherfucking criminal, likes he’s a Romanian cartel member or some shit. Why are people avoiding this, catch up already.
People are in disbelief, and saying stuff like “I don’t like his views/treatment of women”. We are way passed that.
He is a criminal. Open your eyes.
See... You didn't really address the problem.Yes he’s charismatic, got rich and things like that but he’s a legitimate POS person. He is not a good person and it isn’t hard to see that.
He is in jail essentially for the thing that he has the greatest pride in for making him money. Everything he does to make money (casinos to pyramid schemes) is underhanded. He is involved with extremely shitty people. Forget about what he says, what he does is the problem.
See... You didn't really address the problem.
"If people don't want the likes of Andrew Tate getting through to young men then they need to give them a better message rather than just trying to tear him down."
Where are the positive role models? Who should people be paying attention to? Are these role models on this forum? What about Resetera?
If people can find a better alternative, then they would forget about Tate. But if he's the best role model that people can look up to, isn't it a case of everyone else just being really shit?
Maybe more people on here should try to become the role models that they wish Tate could be.
You haven't provided an alternative, and nor have you aspired to be that alternative.Tate is a criminal who is a member of the Romanian mafia. Still wanna follow in his footsteps? In your own personal life, think about that.
Do I need to tell people not to worship career criminals? Calling out tate for what he is, is enough.
The only people Tate ropes in are bottom of the barrel losers with no father, no real career. It's people with very limited self-confidence. He's not being a role model to them, he's taking advantage of them. It's like acting like old people that get conned over the phone are losing their money due to having no role model. These are weak people that he exploits for money.See... You didn't really address the problem.
"If people don't want the likes of Andrew Tate getting through to young men then they need to give them a better message rather than just trying to tear him down."
Where are the positive role models? Who should people be paying attention to? Are these role models on this forum? What about Resetera?
If people can find a better alternative, then they would forget about Tate. But if he's the best role model that people can look up to, isn't it a case of everyone else just being really shit?
Maybe more people on here should try to become the role models that they wish Tate could be.
Culture obviously hasn't fragmented enough if Tate's been able to get to where he is.The only people Tate ropes in are bottom of the barrel losers with no father, no real career. It's people with very limited self-confidence. He's not being a role model to them, he's taking advantage of them. It's like acting like old people that get conned over the phone are losing their money due to having no role model. These are weak people that he exploits for money.
Culture has fragmented to the point that we don't have universal role models like this anymore anyway. We don't have 3 major TV stations. Everyone is isolated in their own little bubbles.
Male role models are just accidentally a by product of a culture that's centralized. Sports figures, or famous actors. We still have sports, but they're just not as dominant in culture as they were, largely due to the decline of cable and many other alternative forms of entertainment. We don't really even have movie stars anymore, but big franchise IPs instead. Even celebrities that are around, they barely have the ability to control their image to the extent they used to since everything is online now, so people aren't really role models like they used to be, where they try and curate a moral image they project to their fans. Fans get to see more of their lives now and know that's not reality.Culture obviously hasn't fragmented enough if Tate's been able to get to where he is.
If Tate is literally the best candidate for "male role model" to emerge in recent months, doesn't that mean that every other male is trash?
Why don't we have more male role models?
Why don't you try to be a role model?
You can't attack the status quo without attempting to offer an alternative.
This is why having a stable nuclear family is key.The only people Tate ropes in are bottom of the barrel losers with no father, no real career. It's people with very limited self-confidence. He's not being a role model to them, he's taking advantage of them. It's like acting like old people that get conned over the phone are losing their money due to having no role model. These are weak people that he exploits for money.
Culture has fragmented to the point that we don't have universal role models like this anymore anyway. We don't have 3 major TV stations. Everyone is isolated in their own little bubbles.
So why aren't there more people on here who are advocating for others to read a book?What people need is not role models. They need modern media literacy.
If you get anything from talking to me, absorb this. Tate is not interested in encouraging anyone to not be a moron. That is a fact. That's not my opinion, it's a fact. His entire financial operation is objectively dependent of people feeling stupid enough that they believe they need him.Tate tells others to read a book. I assume that he also reads a book. Therefore he's not a moron, and he's encouraging others to not be a moron.
You know, there's a lot of parallels that can be made between Tate and the classic education system - especially universities.If you get anything from talking to me, absorb this. Tate is not interested in encouraging anyone to not be a moron. That is a fact. That's not my opinion, it's a fact. His entire financial operation is objectively dependent of people feeling stupid enough that they believe they need him.
This thread is about Andrew Tate. You made a specific claim about him, and I focused on that claim and pointed out that you're wrong. In response, you're talking about anything you can think of but Andrew Tate. It doesn't fool anyone. Make a thread about universities and we can talk about it.You know, there's a lot of parallels that can be made between Tate and the classic education system - especially universities.
To paraphrase what you said: a university's entire financial operation is objectively dependent of people feeling stupid enough that they believe they need it.
I'd still argue that the Philosophy major is more intelligent than someone who doesn't read books, doesn't go to the gym, and plays videogames for 100 hours per week.
Pretty much this ^Male role models are just accidentally a by product of a culture that's centralized. Sports figures, or famous actors. We still have sports, but they're just not as dominant in culture as they were, largely due to the decline of cable and many other alternative forms of entertainment. We don't really even have movie stars anymore, but big franchise IPs instead. Even celebrities that are around, they barely have the ability to control their image to the extent they used to since everything is online now, so people aren't really role models like they used to be, where they try and curate a moral image they project to their fans. Fans get to see more of their lives now and know that's not reality.
And that's part of Tate's appeal I suppose. He's post-role model, post-morality. The brazenness that he acknowledges how much of an asshole he is makes morons think that must mean he's real. Being the biggest asshole in the room can be mistaken for truth if you're a moron. I think we all know of another famous person that has a similar effect on people. But the only people that fall for this obvious con are usually downtrodden, and desperate people.
Of course we can also critique society as well and the many attacks on masculine identity, toxic feminism, and all that. All valid points to bring up.
What people need is not role models. They need modern media literacy. We're mostly in a post-role model culture. People need to be trained and educated to recognize disinformation, cons, lies, manipulation. More and more frequently, we see that people that have weak media literacy are not really going to be able to tell truth from fiction, and they will be exploited.
While in their custody, Andrew Tate had reportedly been taken to the hospital due to developing a lung nodule.
For those unfamiliar, a lung nodule is a growth in the lungs that, while usually benign and generally harmless, can be cancerous. Tate asked to see a doctor in order to investigate this nodule and request a biopsy to ensure it wasn’t a cancerous growth.
This has landed him in the hospital to have the issue properly investigated by a medical professional. However, he’s made a tweet related to the issue that’s a bit vague on what the issue actually is, along with a report that only reveals he’s in the hospital.
He filled the void for directionless (and likely fatherless) young men who didn't latch on to Jordan Peterson.There are a few things Tate says which have merit, such as promoting family, working out, and playing chess, but all of that gets drowned out by the narcissistic garbage he spews which is essentially "make money, buy expensive stuff, have sex with women."
Its ironic because Tate is a narcissist and many of the people trying to cancel him are also narcissists.
Goddamn, regardless of his guilt, the idea that a government could arrest you, seize your stuff TO PAY FOR THE COSTS OF INVESTIGATING YOU, and put you in jail for 30 days "just cause" should really make anyone rethink that Romanian move.Romanian police seized 11 luxury cars from Andrew Tate and his brother after their arrest on sex-trafficking charges
Per local media, the cars impounded included a Rolls-Royce Wraith and an Aston Martin Vanquish, symbols of the luxury lifestyle Tate flaunted.www.insider.com
Ramona Bolla, a spokesperson for Romania's DIICOT investigations agency, confirmed the car seizures to Insider on Wednesday.
She said they were being held to "sustain the cost of the investigation" into Tate, and that they would also be collateral to fund any payments awards to their alleged victims.
Dude seems to be proper fucked.
This is a very astute observation. In the west there has been a distinct change in the "public" attitude towards men and what constitutes "proper behavior". The "money and hoes", MGTOW, and "nice guys finish last" philosophies definitely seem to be taking hold over the traditional ideals of masculinity or even intellectualism promoted by Peterson. My insta feed is FULL of this crap, or street side "quesitons" designed to make all women seem like gold diggers. Tragic.He filled the void for directionless (and likely fatherless) young men who didn't latch on to Jordan Peterson.
Someone who wants humans to be able to live on earth and slaver and conman are two sides of the same coin?Tate and Greta are two sides of the same coin. Hopefully they end up together.