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[Toons]

Whole system is failing on every level really and that's part of the shit culture the west is pushing, i would not be shocked if a huge % of guys grow up without a dad in these times and the only thing mom gives them is youtube. And those guys will all search for a tate.

The algorithm FAVORS a tate. Its not like there's only rates out there. And its not like the east is doing much better, a bunch of them find their society restrictive and prevents them from exploring any individuality at all and they strive to break away from becoming a cog in the machine.

Those are two opposite ends of a spectrum that both end in negativity. We need to focus on teaching young men to be abe to sift through all the BS on their own and make their own path, not to idolize any one person even if they aren't like tate is.

Because ultimately only one csn be responsible for is themselves when it comes down to it. You can't cry that you were misled or something when the crap hits the fan, no one will care. Ir sucks but you have to make the best decision you can at the right time and you have to be taught how to do so.

Tate himself had both his parents, a decent amount of income and plenty of opportunity for success growing up and he still turned out like this. He should be a cautionary tale.

 

[Mobilemofo]

Anybody defending Tate is a cockwomble. The guys clearly fuckin retarded. Look at all my cars!! Nobody gives a fuck mate.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Look at all my cars!! Nobody gives a fuck mate.

The Romanian judicial system does

 

[DeafTourette]

I just heard audio of him ... Dude tells a girl he sexually assaulted about how good she was when he raped her. And the more she didn't want it, the more he loved it.

I hope he gets beaten up every day in prison!

 

[BadBurger]

The algorithm FAVORS a tate. Its not like there's only rates out there. And its not like the east is doing much better, a bunch of them find their society restrictive and prevents them from exploring any individuality at all and they strive to break away from becoming a cog in the machine.

Those are two opposite ends of a spectrum that both end in negativity. We need to focus on teaching young men to be abe to sift through all the BS on their own and make their own path, not to idolize any one person even if they aren't like tate is.

Because ultimately only one csn be responsible for is themselves when it comes down to it. You can't cry that you were misled or something when the crap hits the fan, no one will care. Ir sucks but you have to make the best decision you can at the right time and you have to be taught how to do so.

Tate himself had both his parents, a decent amount of income and plenty of opportunity for success growing up and he still turned out like this. He should be a cautionary tale.

Social media has done a real number on many men throughout the world. It was a sad creep to watch happen. All too often I'll witness / experience these dudes lost to the algorithm accusing others of not thinking for themselves, that they're "NPC's" and the like, all while missing the irony that they're collectively parroting what a few so-called influencers tell them to think. It's almost freakish how they all repeat the same terms and phrases, the same exact insults, word for word, like a cult. Sometimes within mere hours of some new YouTube video from one of their heroes like Tate.

Back when I was in high school and college, prior to the rise of this type of behavior, most men took pride in rejecting these kinds of self described gurus, of reading a variety of topics and bringing their own original thoughts to bear on the internet and elsewhere. It feels like men like me who do that these days, who don't watch a single YouTube influencer or opinionator, nor read any of those so-called philosophy books written by unqualified grifters, are a dying breed.

 

[BennyBlanco]

absolute galaxy brain moment to record yourself admitting to serious crimes and saying this in the next breath

 

[Toons]

Social media has done a real number on many men throughout the world. It was a sad creep to watch happen. All too often I'll witness / experience these dudes lost to the algorithm accusing others of not thinking for themselves, that they're "NPC's" and the like, all while missing the irony that they're collectively parroting what a few so-called influencers tell them to think. It's almost freakish how they all repeat the same terms and phrases, the same exact insults, word for word, like a cult. Sometimes within mere hours of some new YouTube video from one of their heroes like Tate.

Back when I was in high school and college, prior to the rise of this type of behavior, most men took pride in rejecting these kinds of self described gurus, of reading a variety of topics and bringing their own original thoughts to bear on the internet and elsewhere. It feels like men like me who do that these days, who don't watch a single YouTube influencer or opinionator, nor read any of those so-called philosophy books written by unqualified grifters, are a dying breed.

Theres definitely a sentiment i agree with here.

The internet gurus/ideologue leader whatever thing has got to stop. Too many idiots make up an image of themselves and peddle BS and find an audience by gaming the system of the internet in ways that weren't always possible.

It cant be stopped that way so instead there has to be other voices in the crowd and other avenues for expression, and methods of teaching folks how to think, not just to accept or reject but to analyze and critique and come to conclusions that way.

 

[BadBurger]

Theres definitely a sentiment i agree with here.

The internet gurus/ideologue leader whatever thing has got to stop. Too many idiots make up an image of themselves and peddle BS and find an audience by gaming the system of the internet in ways that weren't always possible.

It cant be stopped that way so instead there has to be other voices in the crowd and other avenues for expression, and methods of teaching folks how to think, not just to accept or reject but to analyze and critique and come to conclusions that way.

The worst part is, there are a lot of perfectly fine opinionators out there who try to spread good, non abusive ideas on the net, but the Andrew Tate's of the world muddy the waters so much many good intentioned rational guys fall for them.

 

[BigDeadFreak]

you want to talk about drug dealers or do you want to talk about "another Andrew Tate"?

The point I'm making (and I don't want to get too political here) is that the idea that you can shut down ideas you don't like by cancelling people is much like the idea that you can win the war on drugs by arresting dealers.

Cancel culture used to be a right wing thing. It was Christian conservatives, the moral majority and the likes of Mary Whitehouse trying to cancel Dr. Who, ban rock music and complaining that there were too many homosexuals on TV. Now it's mainly a left wing thing with people trying to force their world view on everyone and cancelling anyone they disagree with. I didn't work then and it doesn't work now.

In a free and open society you can't silence ideas you disagree with. It's hard enough to do this in a dictatorship let alone the modern west. Most people want to make up their own minds rather than have some sanctimonious scold tell them what to think.

There's a lot of people in our society who have a real problem with anyone who connects with disaffected young men. Some of these people are clearly toxic (Trump, Tate, etc.) but others give good advice and have helped plenty of people (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, etc.) but they all get treated like toxic pariahs. The solution to this problem often comes in the form of trying to "cancel" or silence them. In individual cases it sometimes works, others self cancel (Milo Yiannopoulos) but another one always pops up to take their place.

QED, cancel culture is as ineffective as the war on drugs.

If Tate is guilty he deserves to rot in jail but that won't address the underlying problem. Millions of young men feel that the modern world has nothing to offer them. We've tried ignoring them, insulting them and silencing them. Maybe we should start listening to them.

 

[Chittagong]

I usually cherish the role of a contrarian but jfc if those transcripts are real this guy is a retard, creep and a criminal.

Can’t really think of charitable interpretations to those texts and quotes. I know women who get aroused by being dominated but this isn’t it.

 

[Rien]

The point I'm making (and I don't want to get too political here) is that the idea that you can shut down ideas you don't like by cancelling people is much like the idea that you can win the war on drugs by arresting dealers.

Cancel culture used to be a right wing thing. It was Christian conservatives, the moral majority and the likes of Mary Whitehouse trying to cancel Dr. Who, ban rock music and complaining that there were too many homosexuals on TV. Now it's mainly a left wing thing with people trying to force their world view on everyone and cancelling anyone they disagree with. I didn't work then and it doesn't work now.

In a free and open society you can't silence ideas you disagree with. It's hard enough to do this in a dictatorship let alone the modern west. Most people want to make up their own minds rather than have some sanctimonious scold tell them what to think.

There's a lot of people in our society who have a real problem with anyone who connects with disaffected young men. Some of these people are clearly toxic (Trump, Tate, etc.) but others give good advice and have helped plenty of people (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, etc.) but they all get treated like toxic pariahs. The solution to this problem often comes in the form of trying to "cancel" or silence them. In individual cases it sometimes works, others self cancel (Milo Yiannopoulos) but another one always pops up to take their place.

QED, cancel culture is as ineffective as the war on drugs.

If Tate is guilty he deserves to rot in jail but that won't address the underlying problem. Millions of young men feel that the modern world has nothing to offer them. We've tried ignoring them, insulting them and silencing them. Maybe we should start listening to them.

This is a good post!

What is it that makes these young men follow Tate. What does he have to offer what others lack. Misogyny isn’t the only answer, there will be men who will search for that but that doesn’t count for the whole lot.

 

[funkygunther]

The point I'm making (and I don't want to get too political here) is that the idea that you can shut down ideas you don't like by cancelling people is much like the idea that you can win the war on drugs by arresting dealers.

Cancel culture used to be a right wing thing. It was Christian conservatives, the moral majority and the likes of Mary Whitehouse trying to cancel Dr. Who, ban rock music and complaining that there were too many homosexuals on TV. Now it's mainly a left wing thing with people trying to force their world view on everyone and cancelling anyone they disagree with. I didn't work then and it doesn't work now.

In a free and open society you can't silence ideas you disagree with. It's hard enough to do this in a dictatorship let alone the modern west. Most people want to make up their own minds rather than have some sanctimonious scold tell them what to think.

There's a lot of people in our society who have a real problem with anyone who connects with disaffected young men. Some of these people are clearly toxic (Trump, Tate, etc.) but others give good advice and have helped plenty of people (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, etc.) but they all get treated like toxic pariahs. The solution to this problem often comes in the form of trying to "cancel" or silence them. In individual cases it sometimes works, others self cancel (Milo Yiannopoulos) but another one always pops up to take their place.

QED, cancel culture is as ineffective as the war on drugs.

If Tate is guilty he deserves to rot in jail but that won't address the underlying problem. Millions of young men feel that the modern world has nothing to offer them. We've tried ignoring them, insulting them and silencing them. Maybe we should start listening to them.

You’re conflating criminal activity, being Tate, with a general moan about cancel culture but they’re separate. For there to be “another Tate” they would also be a criminal, it’s what separates hIm from the rest of the grifters/good advice men of which there are plenty of and who aren’t incriminated…Liver King, Peterson, Rogan etc who wrestle with their own demons in the free and open society we operate in.

Tate without the criminality is just an influencer who displays a lavish and aspirational lifestyle and then offers breadcrumbs to people that buy into it as a means to make extra money for himself, there are already 100s of those across both sexes. If the lure of a low effort, high reward, get rich quick lifestyle wasn’t so alluring we wouldn’t have people playing the lotto. The solution to this is tangled in the entire system we’ve constructed for ourselves, and it’s not going to be as easy as finding an equal but alternative influencer to the Tates and the Bilzerians to shepherd the disaffected away.

 

[Panajev2001a]

The point I'm making (and I don't want to get too political here) is that the idea that you can shut down ideas you don't like by cancelling people is much like the idea that you can win the war on drugs by arresting dealers.

Cancel culture used to be a right wing thing. It was Christian conservatives, the moral majority and the likes of Mary Whitehouse trying to cancel Dr. Who, ban rock music and complaining that there were too many homosexuals on TV. Now it's mainly a left wing thing with people trying to force their world view on everyone and cancelling anyone they disagree with. I didn't work then and it doesn't work now.

In a free and open society you can't silence ideas you disagree with. It's hard enough to do this in a dictatorship let alone the modern west. Most people want to make up their own minds rather than have some sanctimonious scold tell them what to think.

There's a lot of people in our society who have a real problem with anyone who connects with disaffected young men. Some of these people are clearly toxic (Trump, Tate, etc.) but others give good advice and have helped plenty of people (Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, etc.) but they all get treated like toxic pariahs. The solution to this problem often comes in the form of trying to "cancel" or silence them. In individual cases it sometimes works, others self cancel (Milo Yiannopoulos) but another one always pops up to take their place.

QED, cancel culture is as ineffective as the war on drugs.

If Tate is guilty he deserves to rot in jail but that won't address the underlying problem. Millions of young men feel that the modern world has nothing to offer them. We've tried ignoring them, insulting them and silencing them. Maybe we should start listening to them.

Very well said.

 

[BigDeadFreak]

You’re conflating criminal activity, being Tate, with a general moan about cancel culture but they’re separate. For there to be “another Tate” they would also be a criminal, it’s what separates hIm from the rest of the grifters/good advice men of which there are plenty of and who aren’t incriminated…Liver King, Peterson, Rogan etc who wrestle with their own demons in the free and open society we operate in.

Tate without the criminality is just an influencer who displays a lavish and aspirational lifestyle and then offers breadcrumbs to people that buy into it as a means to make extra money for himself, there are already 100s of those across both sexes. If the lure of a low effort, high reward, get rich quick lifestyle wasn’t so alluring we wouldn’t have people playing the lotto. The solution to this is tangled in the entire system we’ve constructed for ourselves, and it’s not going to be as easy as finding an equal but alternative influencer to the Tates and the Bilzerians to shepherd the disaffected away.

I'm not conflating them, I'm saying there are similarities between the way they are handled and the resultant outcomes. I understand that they are separate but that doesn't mean they are not analogous. Another Tate wouldn't have to be a criminal, it depends on what one means by 'another Tate'. Unless we were referring to a literal genetic clone 'another Tate' would be similar in some ways and different in others. In this case the salient factors I'm referring to are they ways in which he connects with disaffected young men and how that upsets some people in our society who then try to silence him.

Obviously this is a far bigger issue than we can do justice to with a few post on an internet forum, I just want to clarify what I'm getting at so that there's no misunderstanding.

I don't think the solution is to just find another influencer, I think we need to look at why so many young men feel like this in the first place and why the mainstream culture isn't able to speak to them. A lot of the response to Tate isn't doing that, it's just repeating the line that he's a bad man (which he is) and that people shouldn't listen to him. For example, the article below shows how school teachers are doing this but doesn't show them tackling the underlying problems of male disaffection. If no one does this then someone similar will come along to replace him.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jan/07/andrew-tate-misogyny-schools-vulnerable-boys

 

[Amiga]

This saga is more talked about than the Balenciaga thing.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

His ego is off the charts. He's flawed like all of us. Magnified by the microscope

But it's low level stuff to attack the person. There's parts of his philosophy that makes you shake your head and go, "damn, you're fucking right there."

There is a lot of eye rolling cringe. The coffee shop thing for example was super basic. I also don't believe that 70% of people are not making more money because they are arrogant. That makes no sense to me

There is nuance and levels to most of what he says if you're willing to dissect and debate

Plus he's just engaging to listen to. The antithesis of the Lord of the Rings trilo

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Anybody defending Tate is a cockwomble. The guys clearly fuckin retarded. Look at all my cars!! Nobody gives a fuck mate.

This is the surface take of surface takes. Would it kill you to dig even 2 centimetres in? Maybe 1 or 2 videos I've seen has his cars in them. And he's not doing a douchebag pose with them. Anyway

It's the processes that matter in life (outcomes are just a function of processes). Tate does preach this a lot

It's there also a tidal wave of bullshit? Of course there is. Internalise what resonates with you, reject the rest. Then you'll feel good

 

[Vicetrailia]

His ego is off the charts. He's flawed like all of us. Magnified by the microscope

But it's low level stuff to attack the person. There's parts of his philosophy that makes you shake your head and go, "damn, you're fucking right there."

There is a lot of eye rolling cringe. The coffee shop thing for example was super basic. I also don't believe that 70% of people are not making more money because they are arrogant. That makes no sense to me

There is nuance and levels to most of what he says if you're willing to dissect and debate

Plus he's just engaging to listen to. The antithesis of the Lord of the Rings trilo

Fuck are you talking about “he’s flawed like the rest of us”

Bro, he is a career criminal with a social media fetish and a hardcore member of the mafia. You dont give cartel members the light of day, why the fuck would you consider him? He rapes, abuses, and trafficks women, and that’s only the beginning.

You take advice from him you end up like him. He’s not someone with good intentions for themselves who makes some mistakes, he is completely a bad person and owns it.

Whatever you see on social media is fake and needs to be discarded. The real him is far worse.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Fuck are you talking about “he’s flawed like the rest of us”

Bro, he is a career criminal with a social media fetish and a hardcore member of the mafia. You dont give cartel members the light of day, why the fuck would you consider him? He rapes, abuses, and trafficks women, and that’s only the beginning.

You take advice from him you end up like him. He’s not someone with good intentions for themselves who makes some mistakes, he is completely a bad person and owns it.

Whatever you see on social media is fake and needs to be discarded. The real him is far worse.

Haha I was drunk, don't really know what I meant

 

[Rest]

In truth I would rather see 10x Andrew Tate's than the hordes of furry trannies that are plaguing the internet and social media. That resetera thread where a community manager got fired and cancelled for implying bathrooms should not be shared by trannies gave me a headache and royally pissed me off. Mental illness is at an all time high.

I actually think the best role model for young men is David Goggins, whom I respect a lot for his mindset and accomplishments.

What's it like being a scarecrow?

 

[Mobilemofo]

This is the surface take of surface takes. Would it kill you to dig even 2 centimetres in? Maybe 1 or 2 videos I've seen has his cars in them. And he's not doing a douchebag pose with them. Anyway

It's the processes that matter in life (outcomes are just a function of processes). Tate does preach this a lot

It's there also a tidal wave of bullshit? Of course there is. Internalise what resonates with you, reject the rest. Then you'll feel good

It really isn't. I've seen and watched some of the shit he's posted over the last few months, and he really is an utter cleft of the highest possible level. Toxic masculinity isnt it, the guys a bellend..

 

[Alter_Fridge]

It really isn't. I've seen and watched some of the shit he's posted over the last few months, and he really is an utter cleft of the highest possible level. Toxic masculinity isnt it, the guys a bellend..

I'm oversaturated with Tate stuff now. Having a big break

 

[darrylgorn]

Tater tots are funny as hell.

 

[Vicetrailia]

Tater tots are funny as hell.

Lol. It’s hard to admit that they have been properly deceived and grifted time and time again.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

This saga is more talked about than the Balenciaga thing.

Which is honestly sad.

 

[SlimySnake]

There is something really wrong with the UK justice system if they dont see this self confession as something they can use to prosecute him.

 

[funkygunther]

There is something really wrong with the UK justice system if they dont see this self confession as something they can use to prosecute him.

the CPS fucked up badly in 2015 when these charges were brought to them, and not just Tate, there was a bunch of rape and sexual assault cases dismissed through supposed lack of evidence while Alison Saunders was director

 

[Rest]

This is the surface take of surface takes. Would it kill you to dig even 2 centimetres in? Maybe 1 or 2 videos I've seen has his cars in them. And he's not doing a douchebag pose with them. Anyway

It's the processes that matter in life (outcomes are just a function of processes). Tate does preach this a lot

It's there also a tidal wave of bullshit? Of course there is. Internalise what resonates with you, reject the rest. Then you'll feel good

Andrew Tate enslaves human beings. If you defend him you are worse than shit.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Andrew Tate enslaves human beings. If you defend him you are worse than shit.

Not defending him

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Long article but the relevant bits from the headline are in quotes below, including links to sources.

Andrew Tate said he broke a woman’s jaw and that his business was a ‘scam’ ahead of Romanian charges

Before his arrest on suspicion of human trafficking, Andrew Tate bragged about how he conducted his webcam sex business.

www.nbcnews.com

Tate has said in multiple interviews that he’s been violent toward women. During another episode of The Pomp Podcast recorded in 2021, he said that he hit a woman and broke her jaw during a bar fight. Tate said he “ended up in court” after he was charged with causing “bodily harm,” but “got away with it in the end.” He said he was found innocent. NBC News has not verified the details of the encounter.

Tate and his brother told the Mirror in a June 2022 interview that they ran a “total scam” business in Romania that used cam models to lure men into sending them money.

 

[Tams]

For all Tate's shitty takes his rise to fame is some genius level marketing, or maybe just dluking right place at the right time

Basically as part of his university he provides videos for users to share, they get affiliate commission for sign up to his platform. This created an abundance of users making Tate accounts to share videos as TikTok is blowing up as a platform in popularity and his videos are perfectly suited to the outrage meter the Tiktok algorithm makes use of. You watch or comment on one Tate video on TikTok and you'll never escape his content being fed to you

It worked brilliantly to bring him fame, whether he planned on that or not

Right time, right place (luck and some nouse) and an age old pyramid/MLM scheme and boom, success and money.

Lots of people could do it, but you have to be devoid of a lot of morals to be at/bear the top of such schemes. Lots of people choose not to as they realise what a shitty thing it is to do to people. Unfortunately, plenty also buy into these scams.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

 

[cornonthecrobb]

must have a mountain of evidence by now... lock this piece of shit up and let some Romanian big daddy rape the fuck out of him

 

[The Pleasure]

Tate, my cousin! Let's go fisting!

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Andrew Tate says his jail cell in Romania is dark and infested with cockroaches and lice

Andrew Tate said his cell "has no light" and authorities are "trying to break" him in an email sent out to his fans on Monday.

www.insider.com

An email apparently sent by Andrew Tate from jail in Romania has described his living conditions in his cell as dark and infested with cockroaches, lice, and bed bugs.

"They are trying to break me," said the email, sent to subscribers of Tate's newsletter on Monday.

"Thrown inside a cell without light. Cockroaches, lice, and bed bugs are my only friends at night. When the guards bring me to and from the courtroom, I stay absolutely respectful. They try to pour hatred into my heart."

 

[West Texas CEO]

He needs to get tf out of Romania.

 

[SlimySnake]

Andrew Tate says his jail cell in Romania is dark and infested with cockroaches and lice

Andrew Tate said his cell "has no light" and authorities are "trying to break" him in an email sent out to his fans on Monday.

www.insider.com

lmao. thats why you dont move from UK to Romania you fucking moron.

 

[anthony2690]

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtube.com

Looked up Andrew Tate and this what I got!

The guys clearly fuckin retarded. Look at all my cars!! Nobody gives a fuck mate.

Hi Greta

 

[Aesius]

The algorithm FAVORS a tate. Its not like there's only rates out there. And its not like the east is doing much better, a bunch of them find their society restrictive and prevents them from exploring any individuality at all and they strive to break away from becoming a cog in the machine.

Those are two opposite ends of a spectrum that both end in negativity. We need to focus on teaching young men to be abe to sift through all the BS on their own and make their own path, not to idolize any one person even if they aren't like tate is.

Because ultimately only one csn be responsible for is themselves when it comes down to it. You can't cry that you were misled or something when the crap hits the fan, no one will care. Ir sucks but you have to make the best decision you can at the right time and you have to be taught how to do so.

Tate himself had both his parents, a decent amount of income and plenty of opportunity for success growing up and he still turned out like this. He should be a cautionary tale.

The bolded part is shocking to me because it seems that Gen Z and even many millennials are just unabashed followers of "internet people."

Fucking why? Even very smart people I know in their 30s essentially form every opinion because someone on YouTube told them to think a certain way.

What happened to being your own person? When did it become "cool" to be a mindless drone in the army of some grifter who is getting rich off of you? These influencers couldn't give less of a fuck about their fans. The only time they care is when their income starts to dip.

 

[Batiman]

http://[URL][URL]https://youtube.com/shorts/re4zuXHFu74?feature=share

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Looked up Andrew Tate and this what I got!

Hi Greta

That’s bottom G. His internet twin

 

[anthony2690]

That’s bottom G. His internet twin

Oh wait, it isn't actually Andrew Tate? Haha

 

[Facism]

cockroaches probably tweeting that their cell is infested with Tate and that the Romanian guards are trying to break them.

 

[Chittagong]

 

[akimbo009]

That’s bottom G. His internet twin

That's gonna be him soon enough to avoid getting beaten daily in jail.

 

[It's all in the wrist]

Bitch, sit down. Be humble.

 

[Kenpachii]

The bolded part is shocking to me because it seems that Gen Z and even many millennials are just unabashed followers of "internet people."

Fucking why? Even very smart people I know in their 30s essentially form every opinion because someone on YouTube told them to think a certain way.

What happened to being your own person? When did it become "cool" to be a mindless drone in the army of some grifter who is getting rich off of you? These influencers couldn't give less of a fuck about their fans. The only time they care is when their income starts to dip.

Know a therapist, big business when elections are around. People are freaking out because of shit they read online that stirs them up.

Her office is riddled with people that basically can solve there mental problems by just cutting internet and news off from there life. But they can't help themselves.

 

[BigDeadFreak]

Social media has done a real number on many men throughout the world. It was a sad creep to watch happen. All too often I'll witness / experience these dudes lost to the algorithm accusing others of not thinking for themselves, that they're "NPC's" and the like, all while missing the irony that they're collectively parroting what a few so-called influencers tell them to think. It's almost freakish how they all repeat the same terms and phrases, the same exact insults, word for word, like a cult. Sometimes within mere hours of some new YouTube video from one of their heroes like Tate.

Back when I was in high school and college, prior to the rise of this type of behavior, most men took pride in rejecting these kinds of self described gurus, of reading a variety of topics and bringing their own original thoughts to bear on the internet and elsewhere. It feels like men like me who do that these days, who don't watch a single YouTube influencer or opinionator, nor read any of those so-called philosophy books written by unqualified grifters, are a dying breed.

If you live in a society with strict rules then rebellious young men will look for freedom.

If you live in a society that deconstructs those rules then rebellious young men will seek out order and certainty.

The key is to get the balance right.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

 

[SirKicksalot]

Andrew Tate says his jail cell in Romania is dark and infested with cockroaches and lice

Andrew Tate said his cell "has no light" and authorities are "trying to break" him in an email sent out to his fans on Monday.

www.insider.com

No complaints about their conditions were registered and they don't have access to phones or internet.

Poliția București, după ce Andrew Tate s-a plâns pe Twitter din cauza condițiilor din arestul preventiv și a ”gândacilor și păduchilor”: ”Nu există reclamații sau sesizări din partea persoanei. Nu au acces la telefonul mobil sau internet, sunt efectu

Poliția București a transmis un punct de vedere după ce Andrew Tate s-a plâns pe Twitter din cauza condițiilor din arestul preventiv și a ”gândacilor și

www.g4media.ro

 

[Maiden Voyage]

No complaints about their conditions were registered and they don't have access to phones or internet.

Poliția București, după ce Andrew Tate s-a plâns pe Twitter din cauza condițiilor din arestul preventiv și a ”gândacilor și păduchilor”: ”Nu există reclamații sau sesizări din partea persoanei. Nu au acces la telefonul mobil sau internet, sunt efectu

Poliția București a transmis un punct de vedere după ce Andrew Tate s-a plâns pe Twitter din cauza condițiilor din arestul preventiv și a ”gândacilor și

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Most likely it was communicated during a visit with lawyer and transcribed for the mailing list. I assume most of its contents are exaggeration or outright lies with the goal of gaining sympathy from his followers.