The differences between developing for Android and for the iPhone are not a clear win for either camp. Both offer somewhat similar tools in terms of capability, with Google’s being more familiar to open source or Java developers and Apple’s being nearly identical to its desktop Mac platform tools. Apple has a minor lead in having deployed its platform about a year and a half before Android reached the market, and because it has been actively working on its Mac OS X platform for over a decade; Google is new to the platform development business.
However, the team Google acquired to put Android together has been working within the company for about as long as Apple’s own efforts on the iPhone; both got started on their current strategies around 2005. Outside of Google, the original Android project dates back to 2003, and was largely built upon on operating system technology that started at Danger in 2000, around the same time as Mac OS X’s modern development. So in many respects, Android and iPhone are contemporary platforms, as opposed to Symbian, BlackBerry OS, and Windows Mobile which had their core foundations designed in the mid 90s to serve very different purposes as simple PDA or pager operating systems.
Apple has a minor lead in having deployed its platform about a year and a half before Android reached the market
jonnybryce said:The web browser is awesome. It can be a bit choppy when initially loading a page, though not always, but then browsing becomes super smooth kinetic swiping.
I like it over the iPhone browser for a few reasons, one being the flash, another being that when I lift my finger from my swipe the page will keep going which gives me the option of how far I want to keep scrolling with fewer swipes, and also because the Hero browser wraps text at whatever zoom level you pick, unlike the iPhone where there is only 1 zoom level that will show all the text and after that if you zoom in the text doesn't reformat.
That's aside from the awesome visual bookmarks and bookmark widgets, plus the dedicated google search key...it really is the best web browsing experience I've had. Plus it's so fast thanks to Sprint.
Yeah, pinch to zoom isn't always as silky smooth as on iPhone...but everything else exceeds it in my most honest opinion.
It's still the 1.5 Market, so it just kinda sucks from oldness. The new market layout is way better. But this is just because the Hero still is on 1.5 and not 1.6. When 2.0 lands, it'll have the new, better market. PEACE.zedge said:How is the android market? Is it all gimped like the Rogers phones seem to be?
Pimpwerx said:It's still the 1.5 Market, so it just kinda sucks from oldness. The new market layout is way better. But this is just because the Hero still is on 1.5 and not 1.6. When 2.0 lands, it'll have the new, better market. PEACE.
zedge said:Yea but in Canada on the Rogers Android phones (Dream, Magic) they blocked alot of the content from what I have heard... Just wondering if its like this on Telus.
It's a crime they are calling that photoshop.Andrex said:
Bad_Boy said:It's a crime they are calling that photoshop.
TheMissingLink said:The phone in that Photoshop.com ad is sexy, any idea which phone it is?
SRG01 said:The Canadian market is blocked to paid apps, for the simple reason that US and Canada have different rights and licenses. I'd imagine this is the same for Telus.
Fatalah said:Just thinking out loud but, I'm hoping for a newer Android phone from HTC. Hopefully soon. Wasn't there a report that 13 smartphones were coming to Verizon by end of year? Don't know how that would be possible with all the money being spent marketing the Droid but, I'm not totally sold on it. I love the Eris's styling...I want to see more from HTC!
jonnybryce said:Andrex when is your app thread coming out, argh!
Also, it's weird how I can type better on my Hero in portrait than my iPhone despite it being a smaller screen. I was sure I'd have to always go into landscape to type but I never have to. The predictive text on it is awesome, but I'm not even relying on it that heavily.
Hero ftw.
jonnybryce said:Andrex when is your app thread coming out, argh!
Not me, but I think that's because I calibrated it using two hands, whereas I usually type with one hand in portrait. I am trying go figure out which hand to use to calibrate it properly, since I tend to use either hand depending on the situation. It makes a difference, the calibration does. PEACE.SRG01 said:Hey, someone noticed this too. I can type way better on the Magic/Hero, and yet I can't type on the iPhone. It's strange...
jonnybryce said:Andrex when is your app thread coming out, argh!
Also, it's weird how I can type better on my Hero in portrait than my iPhone despite it being a smaller screen. I was sure I'd have to always go into landscape to type but I never have to. The predictive text on it is awesome, but I'm not even relying on it that heavily.
Hero ftw.
LouieGeetoo said:Has anyone here gotten a Droid Eris? I've got a month before I get back in the US and have to decide between the Droid and Droid Eris. The Eris seems like a great phone that's being overshadowed by the Droid. I have no particular need for GPS capability. Any Eris owners here who want to report their impressions, since the rest of the Internet seems to be Droid-crazy?
Earlier today the FCC approved Dells first Android phone, the Mini 3ix. AT&T is expected to carry Dells Mini 3iX in Q1 2010.
Initially Dell reps said the phone would just be available in China. However, with AT&T falling behind the android market share it would make sense to have a proven product.
Unlike the Chinese version the AT&T version will have Wi-Fi and 3G. The phone also comes with 850 and 1900 MHz bands, a 3.5-inch 640×360 touch screen display, A-GPS, built-in support for Microsoft Exchange, 3 MP camera with autofocus and flash, microSD card slot, and a virtual keyboard. Unfortunately, there are no specs as to the horsepower, ROM, RAM and screen type.
LouieGeetoo said:Has anyone here gotten a Droid Eris? I've got a month before I get back in the US and have to decide between the Droid and Droid Eris. The Eris seems like a great phone that's being overshadowed by the Droid. I have no particular need for GPS capability. Any Eris owners here who want to report their impressions, since the rest of the Internet seems to be Droid-crazy?
zedge said:Do mind if I ask what type of plan you got with Telus?![]()
You have to add your gmail account to the HTC mail app. It's automated, so just enter username and pass. Once you do that, it will show up in the list with the yahoo account, and you can choose it. You'll probably want to disable notifications in the Gmail app after this. I use the HTC mail app for all my Gmail accounts. I did the same with with the email app on my myTouch before this. The Gmail app doesn't offer that much better functionality than the regular one. PEACE.jonnybryce said:Hero owners I have the HTC mail app for a yahoo account and Gmail app for my Gmail. I want the HTC Mail Widget to show my Gmail like it does in the preview of the widget but it always shows my Yahoo, is there a way to switch it or is, as I fear, that widget linked to the mail widget and unable to talk to the Gmail app?
I knew all of this already, but thanks for the post. It'll at least be informative for others reading the thread.Totakeke said:Eris is a variant of the HTC Hero, you can already find impressions on it at a lot of places including in the meet the HTC Hero thread. It's a very solid phone and the most liked Android phone before Droid came out. What you would be lacking by getting Eris over the Droid would be a better processor, much larger and higher resolution screen, and a hardware keyboard. On the flipside, Eris also has the HTC Sense UI which adds very neat widgets and some skinning on the homescreen interface that you may like, while Droid only comes with stock Android.
Most likely you won't be missing out on GPS features since that's something that would be included when the Eris is updated to Android 2.0.
Our thoughts about what we want in a phone seem to match up. I'll probably be going with the Eris unless something big happens in the next month. Thanks for your impressions!tokkun said:I posted some brief impressions from about 10 minutes of testing the Eris in the main Droid thread. My opinion was that I liked the Eris better overall. The main thing is that I don't think I would use the hardware keyboard, the Droid is ugly (other than the beautiful screen), the Eris would feel much better in the pocket since it is smaller, lighter, and has rounded edges rather than protruding angles, and the screen felt more responsive when using the OS keyboard or flicking around the home screen (most likely due to Sense).
For me, the ergonomics of a phone, both from a hardware and software standpoint, are just as important as the technical specs.
jonnybryce said:Hero owners I have the HTC mail app for a yahoo account and Gmail app for my Gmail. I want the HTC Mail Widget to show my Gmail like it does in the preview of the widget but it always shows my Yahoo, is there a way to switch it or is, as I fear, that widget linked to the mail widget and unable to talk to the Gmail app?
I'm on Sprint lol
TheSeks said:I tried the G1 like two days back. The Keyboard was nice and I dug the OS and all that. Tried the Cliq demo unit (that wasn't a "live" one) and the keyboard just feels hard as fuck. :/ I'm not sure if I really want a Cliq anymore now that I've held it and the keyboard is hard/squished.
I don't really dig the slide-touch-screen thing the G1 has going on. But I like it more than the MyTouch that T-mobile has.
Is there any Android 2.0 phones coming out that have a Keyboard feeling similar to the G1?
I've never used the Cliq. However, I tried a dummy unit for the Droid while waiting on line for the real one, and the keyboard was totally fugazi. The keys took like 800N to press down and it didn't feel usable at all. Needless to say, the real unit is nowhere near that bad. Just something to keep in mind: it's very stupid, but the dummy units are often very different from the live ones.TheSeks said:I tried the G1 like two days back. The Keyboard was nice and I dug the OS and all that. Tried the Cliq demo unit (that wasn't a "live" one) and the keyboard just feels hard as fuck. :/ I'm not sure if I really want a Cliq anymore now that I've held it and the keyboard is hard/squished.
I don't really dig the slide-touch-screen thing the G1 has going on. But I like it more than the MyTouch that T-mobile has.
Is there any Android 2.0 phones coming out that have a Keyboard feeling similar to the G1?
Battersea Power Station said:What "slide-touch-screen thing" are you talking about? The G1 and MyTouch OS ROMs are almost identical.
Andrex said:The only phone confirmed to have 2.0 right now is the Droid. And in fact, the Droid's keyboard has been compared to the G1's a couple times because they're both really flat and flush.
Needless to say, the real unit is nowhere near that bad. Just something to keep in mind: it's very stupid, but the dummy units are often very different from the live ones.
jonnybryce said:Most often dummy keyboards don't function at all and thus are a lot harder than the real deal.
BoyGeniusReport.com said:Pardon us while we think out loud, but that high resolution screen with an HTC Sense UI-looking clock/weather widget looks like Android to us. Weve also confirmed that this photo was taken of a Verizon handset, and with all signs pointing to an impending release, were just going to venture out on a limb and say that we believe this photo is of HTCs next Android device for Verizon Wireless. In case you forgot, the rumored device were talking about is supposedly one bad ass piece of telephonery 5 megapixel camera, Android 2.0, and much, much more. One of connects said this thing could be out as early as Black Friday, and while it seems a little far fetched, were slowly coming around to the possibility.
UPDATE: Actually, I meant to write mid-December. Our previous scoop said either the Curve2 or Dragon would come out around Black Friday, and we know that the Curve2 is being released on November 20th.
Fatalah said:This is the Android I want!
Fatalah said:http://media.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/htc-dragon.jpg[IMG]
This is the Android I want![/QUOTE]
i don't get why they think this is android. HTC reuses assets all the time and that looks identical to its windows mobile little widget thing they have. you can see exactly the same thing on the HTC website.
Engadget said:Android: The simply-named Android runs -- you guessed it -- Android with a 3.7 inch AMOLED display and 1GHz Snapdragon processor; unfortunately, it won't be available until next Spring and the manufacturer isn't being revealed right now.
tokkun said:Who really wants a ridiculous 4.3" screen? The Droid is already pushing the limits on what I would consider an acceptable size for a phone.